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I'm seeing more and more reports about scientists believing that we are very near the tipping point or may already be past the point of no return.
I'm not saying we ought to ignore current issues such as vaccinations, mask wearing, the handling of Afghanistan and others but we ought to keep things in perspective. Todays' issues will soon become rinky-dink compared to fleeing from fires, rationing water, moving to high ground to escape flooding, dealing with shortages, mass migrations, civil unrest and such.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And try repeatedly to put it out of our minds. Any other distraction will be used to distance ourselves from the truth bearing down upon us. Craziness will abound.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)Keeps me up at night, (selfishly) wondering how soon I'll be impacted in a big way. Ten years? Five years? Six months?
Saddest fact: Science has been warning us for a century or more.
The Blue Flower
(5,439 posts)I wanted to be around to help my grandkids grow up, but now I think about the resources I'm using just to live from day to day. Resources that will be increasingly scarce.
MLAA
(17,266 posts)It's often what keeps me awake. Being a planner, I know there's only so much I can do to prepare. We live in NE Indiana, so we're probably OK with rains, but live in a transitional neighborhood and can't find much of a support there. My husband only has an inkling because I don't share with him all that I learn. He made a comment recently about a grandson getting married and I didn't have the heart to say that it probably wouldn't happen. The kid's only in first grade!
MLAA
(17,266 posts)2 years. I often think about what else I can do to be as prepared as possible. I live in a desert so I installed solar power because an increase in temperature here would be deadly with no cooling system. From the studies Ive read, despite being in a desert, the water reports say because of decent planning there is water for many years. But who knows. I actually hope for a meteor to come along and wipe us all out instantly when it gets really bad. 😬
NickB79
(19,233 posts)All the more so because I have an 11 yr old daughter
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)One of the projects I have going is converting my backyard into a vegetable garden and orchard. This year I planted blueberries, raspberries and honeyberries. Next year I hope to plant apple, pear, plum, peach, nectarine and quince trees.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)I'd like to move but circumstances require I stay in drought conditions.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)Fortunately, climate change isn't predicted to be so bad here in Upper Michigan compared to other regions and with most of the family so close, we have an extensive mutual support system already in place.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)Best wishes!
modrepub
(3,493 posts)which we blew by a couple years ago. We have no idea how fast the ice will melt, decades maybe? And counter-intuitively, the injection of all that fresh water in the North Atlantic could cool temperatures dramatically by shutting down the Gulf Stream. Unfortunately, we're probably going to find out. The long-term climate record of Greenland shows it can go from frozen stable ice sheet to quickly melting temperatures in less than a decade.
Maybe we can get our proverbial sh-t together at some point. There are plans on the board for very large wind farms off the coast of the MidAtlantic and New England coasts. Most US coal plants have shut down and the new natural gas combined cycle plants that have come online in the last decade are twice as efficient as coal plants. If our population stabilizes and we push energy efficiency there's a real chance we can get close to carbon neutral in the coming decades. We just need politicians to get out of the way, let innovation take place and for the rest of us to do their part in reigning in our over consumption.
There is hope. We just have to take the first steps and not give up.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)I learned to never mention cold weather to my nutty right-wing mother because of the inevitable comment about Al Gore being wrong because it got cold. Right-wingers making sure to turn on lights and appliances and leave them on all day for Earth Day. Freaking out about new light bulbs during the Obama administration. Thanks, Republicans!
bucolic_frolic
(43,120 posts)they had to leave the doors open all day
bucolic_frolic
(43,120 posts)but even there, escaping random pockets of heat or floods and invasion while maintaining adequate resources will be a throw of the dice.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)As they will be depending on me.
KS Toronado
(17,187 posts)We had a nice 4 acres in the county with a creek as the property line. Even though the house wasn't in the
100 year flood plane, it was close. So we bought a place in town on some of the highest ground. We could
see the writing on the wall.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)We didn't do that because we were concerned by flooding. It just worked out that way and it turned out to be a good choice. Recently, there was a very heavy downpour and several of the homes with basements got water as their drain pipes couldn't keep up. One lady had water flowing into her basement through the windows.
gab13by13
(21,287 posts)Global warming/climate change is another example of why I have been saying for years now that our MSM is right wing, including CNN and MSNBC. Our military ranked global warming as one of the biggest threats to our national security, yet that fact was glossed over by our MSM.
CNN and MSNBC are the good cop in the good cop bad cop game that is played every day just to control the narrative.
All one has to do is follow the money. Who is behind the narratives that we see on TV. Who are MF45's backers? Even Bob Mueller could have followed the money, but he didn't. Even the IRS isn't giving Congress all of MF45's taxes when the law says they should. One has to go back to the early 2,000's tax returns to get the full picture of who owns MF45.
The Afghanistan narrative going on now is being manipulated by big money. Smedley Butler's book War is Hell nailed everything one needs to know about all wars, a handful of people make a lot of money when we go to war. Everything we see on cable news is Kabuki Theater paid for by Big money.
I dug a drainage ditch to catch runoff water coming down the hill to my house. It only happens when there are days of heavy rain. It hasn't happened often but I understand that it is going to happen more often now so I made preparations.
Magoo48
(4,701 posts)Until we view everything else through the lens of this Climate Emergency, prospects for our next generations are dire. What we are doing now amounts to, Good luck kids 🖕. And yes, the Corporate/right-wing MSM is a complicit and dangerous joke.
One thing we can all do is eat no or very little meat/animal products. Livestock take so much resource compared to plants and methane is a large problem.
I started a plant based diet 10 years ago. Also notice many of the large food companies have been investing in meat/cheese alternatives. They arent doing it for animal rights reasons or to save the planet, they see it as a necessary step to maintain profitability as resources like water become less available.
librechik
(30,674 posts)All that remains is love. Make and exchange all you can.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)I skimmed over it and while I agree with the author that it's dire and climate change is happening much faster then earlier predicted, I do not agree that humans are facing extinction.
The effects of climate change are not going be uniform around the world. While some regions will become less hospitable for human life, others will be come more hospitable. And humans are unique amongst mammals in our ability to adapt very quickly.
librechik
(30,674 posts)cheers