Dying Covidiots. One thing you DON'T hear from them...

[Roland99]

Any sort of mention of the right wing “news” site(s) they trusted or any mention of how wrong the Twitler admin was and what influence theat played on their willful ignorance, despite all of our pleas and those from the scientific and medical communities

They only say the virus wasn’t a joke, not that their sources were and don’t specifically mention those sources.

I really and truly believe they should all be charged with whatever crimes could even remotely stick

Or, at the least, be sued out of existence

[viva la]

1. I wonder if anyone is keeping track of loud antivaxxers

Who get very sick. Not that I'm being nasty... just curious.

[DemInBuckhead]

2. There's the Herman Cain Freedom Awards subreddit

Split between "Nominated" and "Awarded".

[viva la]

3. Oh, I have to check that out

Not that I'm cruel... just curious!

[Blue Owl]

34. Herman would be pleased

[Roland99]

25. Why, yes someone is!!

https://www.fuckedantivaxxer.com/

[thucythucy]

31. Wow! Thank you for this excellent resource. nt

[brewens]

4. I'll probably lose a bunch of friends if I see a COVIDiot deathbed conversion on my

FB feed. I will seriously say, "If I'm not paying attention when someone posts the news, good riddance in advance. My only concern is if you infected anyone else!"

[KS Toronado]

5. Your one line, Democrats should pay attention to......

They only say the virus wasn’t a joke, not that their sources were and don’t specifically mention those sources.

We should start getting our messaging out about how their sources was nothing but misinformation and how
many lives and hospitalizations it has cost this country. Can we get Rachel or 60 minutes to interview FQX noise
(and others) for a full hour.

[Claustrum]

11. The problem isn't messaging because the "cult" will never see eye to eye with us or what we have to

say. Trump era proved all of it. It doesn't matter what facts or video evidence of what Trump specifically said. They then throw back a "fake news", "you are taking Trump out of context", "he is just joking" and they shrug off anything we have to say.

I am still seeing "CNN is not fact based" daily from them. Do you really think they believe anything other than what Fox News or Trump says? Actually, they are so far gone they booed Trump when he told them to get vaccinated in his rally. They are not listening to anything other than what they want to believe, and anything deviating from it is inherently "fake news" for them.

[LymphocyteLover]

12. Yes, sadly-- many of them are truly lost, irredeemable souls

My guess is they are also a dying breed. We just have to beat them at the polls...

[hadEnuf]

16. They have traded in common sense for fealty to a snake oil salesman because he says what they want

to hear. The hardcore Trumpettes have always wanted a fuhrer, a king or an emperor to bow down to and now they have one.

It seems as they are now on a kamikaze mission for him.

[CaptainTruth]

22. "The cult" was created by messaging.

How do you think they got all those thoughts & beliefs in their heads? They didn't spontaneously appear out of nowhere. Right wing propaganda (messaging) put them there. It's ALL ABOUT messaging & we ignore that at our own peril.

[Claustrum]

27. I agree with you. But my point is messaging from Rachel or 60 minutes aren't changing their minds.

We have to somehow break the stronghold of RW raido in rural areas but I have no idea how to do it. MSM bashing Trump or GoP isn't going to change them. The people that are willing to listen already voted against Trump in the last election and they are the suburban independent/moderate Rs. The "cult" isn't going to be moved by MSM or what we say.

[Rabrrrrrr]

23. And they only listen to Trump when they agree with his bullshit - consider how he was booed

at his rally when he said people should get vaccinated.

They know he's been vaccinated, and he's telling them to get vaccinated, but he created a monster with his "Covid is a hoax" rhetoric that will never listen to him when he says something truthful. It's weird, but then these people are phenomenally ignorant, hate-filled, terrified of everything, and incapable of independent thought.

I know in Wisconsin that Scott Walker has done ads asking people to get vaccinated - but his fans also scream out "Bullshit!" at it.

it's a mentality that is so unattached to reality I literally don't know how to respond to it.

But maybe the best response is to just let them kill themselves - it'll cost us a boatload of money, but maybe the cost is worth it.

[Claustrum]

28. Exactly. I have no idea how to counter it because there is no good faith conversation going on.

In other countries, the RW are arguing about whether to set the limit to 4 people gathering instead of 2. They are on broad with masking and vaccines but they just don't want it to be mandatory by the government. They are arguing about spending less on national healthcare to cut cost, rather than no national healthcare system at all.

I really wish we have a functional and non-extreme RW in this country because I can have meaningful conversation with them for the pros and cons on those issues. In some ways, I think their unreasonable position forces us to take extreme positions on the other end.

I would be fine with re-opening if people masked up and follow the limitation to slow the spread. But because GoP took the position that no restriction at all, I have to take the total lockdown position because I know a majority of them will not follow common sense and spread COVID all over the place. Just look at South Korea and they have been relatively good throughout the whole time. A spread of a 10 people group get major news courage and they contact trace and isolate everyone possibly in contact. We, on the other hand, don't even care when we get 10k infections a day.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. I just think of them as exercising their right to self-deportation

[johnthewoodworker]

7. Fox news(?) inspires stupidity.

[gab13by13]

8. Except that all of them don't

get it on their death beds. Many still die believing that the vaccine doesn't work. A Trumper just told me that more people die who get vaccinated and that masks don't work, he knows because some quack doctor on Fox told him so.

[twodogsbarking]

9. See where we are in three months.

I am guessing it will be worse than it is today by multiples.
Kids in school are a game changer.

[gab13by13]

10. You bet,

my daughter moved her son from a mask optional school to a mask mandated school.

It just defies any and all logic. If infections are high in the school district why make masks optional? I just don't get it. There is no bottom to their stupidity.

[3825-87867]

13. Bar Tenders in Pa are "required"

to be human "Blood" Alcohol Level Checkers.
If a Bar Tender sells, gives or donates one too many drinks to a patron and that patron is involved in a drunk driving accident or death, the Bar Tender can be held as an accessory to whatever "crime" the drunk commits or committed if the local Blues or D.A. decided the drunk had one too many!

This was thanks to a push by MADD.

If that's the case we need to do something similar for intentionally spreading false provided information on any media.

People have been found guilty of suggesting some commit suicide on social media. Why not something similar for continual, intentional false information being provided?

And no, Mother Tucker Carlson can't use, "Why can't we just drink bleach to cure whatever? Just Asking!"

I imagine if someone asked on any media why doesn't someone (shoot, beat, maul, poison or whatever) to Death Tucker? Pretty sure that person could be in a lot of trouble.

Just frustrated!

[FakeNoose]

29. That law happened for a reason

It became obvious to everyone including the LEOs that the person buying the drink will refuse to take responsibility, whenever there is loss of life or property involved as there would be in a DUI accident.

The driver who is charged with the DUI would always say in court, "But your Honor it's not my fault. The bartender gave me one last drink, and I didn't really want it because I was leaving. But since s/he gave it to me, I took it and drank it."

Oh really? That bartender twisted your arm and made you open your mouth? He made you swallow that alcohol, and handed you the keys and pushed you out the door? This is the evolution of adult responsibility - or should I say NON-responsibility - in our drinking and driving culture. This is what it has come to, holding the bartenders legally liable because SOMEBODY has to be the adult.

Even law enforcement officers themselves have caused DUI-accidents, because of drinking and driving off-duty. There was no other way to stop this madness.

Now if you want to equate the same rule (bartenders held liable for DUI accidents) to the masking mandate - I'm all for it. Soon there will be lawsuits from people who were infected and perhaps died, or rendered very ill - and the "culprit" is the store owner who allowed unmasked people to roam free in their store and spread their virus germs. The best way to avoid that liability is to require facemasks of everyone who enters your premises. I cannot understand why insurance companies haven't already pushed this. They could go broke paying off all the lawsuits.

[hibbing]

14. They are part of the "news" sites

The ones I have seen are mostly radio hosts, but they are part of the right wing media.

Peace

[The Jungle 1]

15. We need more doctors and hospitals to refuse any treatment of people who have no vaccine.

No way should medical staff be forced to risk being around the willfully ignorant.
"first, do no harm" Any reasonable American would agree that any person working in a medical field need not put themselves in harms way.

[Rabrrrrrr]

24. And every health insurance company (may they rot in hell, but here they could do some good) require

vaccination - suspend all health care benefits until their insurees show proof of vaccination.

Then we'll see how committed these piles of human garbage are to their "Covid is a hoax" or "The survivability rate is super high so I'm not worried" ideas.

We have to start making their bullshit start costing them something.

[The Jungle 1]

32. Yup

Again my wife is a nurse. Why should she have to risk being around stupid people!

America needs to make this very clear. We need support.

[Joinfortmill]

17. Good point.

[ananda]

18. By "they" I assume you mean the sources and not the covidiots.

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[Roland99]

26. was referring to those who've had that 'epiphany'

[NoMoreRepugs]

19. Covid more than even politics has demonstrated

just how many incredibly STUPID people there are here in America. Voting RePutinican is one thing - refusing something that could save your life and that of others is a whole new level of ignorance.

[dreamland]

20. All they have to do is say that Faux news told them not the vaccinate.

Their families can benefit from their dying words by bringing on lawsuits against Faux news, then maybe that will stop the fake reporting.

[IronLionZion]

21. Or any regret for infecting others

since they don't even think of that.

I'm vaxxed and would like to relax, but I still mask indoors to protect anyone else I encounter. We all got super nervous when my 8 year old niece got sick but thankfully it wasn't COVID.

[Midnight Writer]

30. Exactly. Lots of concern for themselves (understandably), but no thought of others,

including the health care workers treating them for what is basically idiocy.

[UTUSN]

33. K&R