So now it's the moderates

[zipplewrath]

For all the grief the "squad" gets for their positions, now apparently it is the "moderates" that are creating problems for Pelosi.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/infrastructure-bill-house-vote-stalemate-pelosi-moderate-democrats/

I have and idea, maybe advocating for your position and beliefs isn't being "disruptive" but "representing your constituents" regardless of you relation to leadership.

[empedocles]

1. 'creating problems' - agree with that part

[Interests being served gets more complicated].

[Lovie777]

2. They are conservatives . ....

moderates would vote for the bill.

[questionseverything]

3. Which constitutes don't want to end childhood hunger/poverty

Or make sure seniors get dental care, eye glasses and hearing aides?

All while the billionaires pay for it?

[zipplewrath]

6. It's about who gets over looked

It's about the politics of how bills get passed. If you pass this before the other bill, it may defeat the other bill. Who doesn't want what that bill provides? Are you willing to defeat those features to ensure that dental care and eye glasses get funded?

[questionseverything]

7. I want both bills to pass

So does president Biden and speaker pelosi

The nine corporate democrats trying to derail the reconciliation bill are the ones not wanting the benefits I mentioned for children and seniors but

Do you really think the voters in those districts don’t want those benefits?

Or is it the billionaires and corporations whose taxes will be raised who don’t care about those benefits?

[Budi]

4. All Moderates? All Centrists? All Progressives?

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It's the classifying by labels rather than individual that has emerged as a problem of broadbrushing someone or group.

Not ALL are 'moderates, centrists, progressives' all the time.
There is no All or Nothing line down the middle.

That labelling is only useful when targeting for negative imagery.

[zipplewrath]

5. I tend to agree

I think almost any representative would assert that there is a mix of challenges in their job. The perfect bill, the good bill, the good enough bill, the bitter "bill" to swallow, and the bill not worth the effort. Their is a tendency in the press to assert the decision of representatives as either in support of a the perfect bill, or declaring something to be "not worth the effort" when in reality, it is them deciding if it is a choice among the "good enough", "bitter bill", or "not worth the effort".

[Budi]

8. Exactly.

Thank you

[betsuni]

12. +1

[Celerity]

9. The Would-be Ennead

Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey
Carolyn Bourdeaux of Georgia
Filemon Vela of Texas
Jared Golden of Maine
Henry Cuellar of Texas
Vicente Gonzalez of Texas
Ed Case of Hawaii
Jim Costa of California
Kurt Schrader of Oregon

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/22/reconciliation-can-wait-lets-do-infrastructure-first/

[Mr.Bill]

10. It's like I said elsewhere,

everybody wants a pony. There is no way a huge spending bill like this is going to get through the process without everybody leeching whatever they can get from it. And I can think of no person who could better manage it than Nancy Pelosi.

[Deminpenn]

11. Just curious if Pelosi brought this bipartisan bill

up for a vote, if it would pass? You would think that the majority of Rs would vote for it since it got 70% support in the Senate. But 2/3rds of the Rs voted against certifying electors. They could just knee-jerk vote "no". If the entire progressive caucus voted "no", the bill would fail.