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Allen West's sauced up wife rounded up for DWI (video released) (Original Post) cadoman Aug 2021 OP
she was so drunk she could not even pull up drray23 Aug 2021 #1
well....she cooperates but does not really follow instructions Skittles Aug 2021 #2
It's dark, traffic is whizzing by making noise. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #19
I wouldn't do that test Skittles Aug 2021 #40
I can only speak to my old jurisdiction but most DUI lawyers Tomconroy Aug 2021 #43
I'll tell you- James48 Aug 2021 #3
Interesting. I was trying to imagine what the officers were seeing, Hortensis Aug 2021 #4
To your second point, there is no "we" when it comes to stuff like this kcr Aug 2021 #7
So, in the interest of factional loyalty, we should agree Hortensis Aug 2021 #30
I didn't watch the whole thing LeftInTX Aug 2021 #33
No word on the breathalyzer or blood test they got a Hortensis Aug 2021 #39
So she was driving under the influence with a two-year-old child in the backseat? Laffy Kat Aug 2021 #5
Maybe she was. It hasn't been determined. onenote Aug 2021 #16
I thought she did fine with the field sobriety tests LeftInTX Aug 2021 #35
Kafkaesque. ZZenith Aug 2021 #6
Breathalyzer was inconclusive FBaggins Aug 2021 #11
I read in a Texas paper she refused a voluntary blood draw. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #13
Me too... but that doesn't show in the video FBaggins Aug 2021 #14
She was over the solid right line a couple of times. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #15
I must say DFW Aug 2021 #8
In my jurisdiction, if she were really drunk, she would Tomconroy Aug 2021 #9
I thought I saw the charge was enhanced with "minor under 15 in the vehicle" Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2021 #22
This is a nazi persecution of her just for being a Republican freedom fighter!!! Bucky Aug 2021 #10
See now... Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #20
But West said this was all BS. Was he lying to us?? Takket Aug 2021 #12
That driving could also be explained by someone looking Nixie Aug 2021 #17
So would interacting with a grandchild in the back seat FBaggins Aug 2021 #21
I rarely drink but those instructions would have ecstatic Aug 2021 #18
It seemed like the cop's first dui. I wonder if she was a trainee. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2021 #23
Yeah, that cop could use some work on her communication skills. Treefrog Aug 2021 #24
that was my thought too. she was even reading instructions, then she got her cellphone so she IcyPeas Aug 2021 #32
It was worse than my neuro tests! LeftInTX Aug 2021 #37
Yeah, that cop needs more training. Treefrog Aug 2021 #38
I was pulled over once for suspicion of DUI Sympthsical Aug 2021 #25
After looking at the video I think Mrs. West Tomconroy Aug 2021 #26
She didn't look drunk to me. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2021 #28
Angela's driving is erratic. Niagara Aug 2021 #27
I think if she hadn't stopped in the middle of the Tomconroy Aug 2021 #29
typical conservative gopiscrap Aug 2021 #31
What? Dems don't drink? Treefrog Aug 2021 #36
I thought she did fine with the field sobriety tests LeftInTX Aug 2021 #34
I had to blow in one of those things to test drive a car at the state fair Skittles Aug 2021 #41
She must have blown something on the breathalyzer Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #42

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. she was so drunk she could not even pull up
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 02:08 AM
Aug 2021

on the side of the road. She stopped in the middle of it..

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
2. well....she cooperates but does not really follow instructions
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 02:11 AM
Aug 2021

that toe-heel walk is pretty well known, yes?

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
19. It's dark, traffic is whizzing by making noise.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:24 AM
Aug 2021

You are very nervous and rather frightened. It's not easy. I think she's going to skate.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
40. I wouldn't do that test
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:16 PM
Aug 2021

I'd be too nervous to do well regardless of what I had to drink (for the record I never drink and drive, I treat it as a zero tolerance thing).

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
43. I can only speak to my old jurisdiction but most DUI lawyers
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:40 PM
Aug 2021

In CT would advise not to. There are no consequences to a refusal. The cop has already decided to arrest you when he asks you to get out of the car. There are consequences to your license if you refuse a breath or blood or urine test.
I don't know about other states.

James48

(4,429 posts)
3. I'll tell you-
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 02:20 AM
Aug 2021

From experience- the whole “raise the leg “ thing is the one that I simply can’t do, even sober. I’m 350 pounds, 61 years old, with very bad arthritis in both hips, and I have trouble standing on two legs, let alone on one. I have to use canes to walk anywhere.

She’s toast.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Interesting. I was trying to imagine what the officers were seeing,
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:12 AM
Aug 2021

and interpreting, from those tests. Not saying she wasn't under the influence, but both balance problems and not following instructions in detail do have common causes other than inebriation. And a grandson having to see grandma being pulled over by the police and the disaster of a famous husband running for governor would be understandable causes for disconbobulation.

Whatever. I despise Allen West, and a wife who shares his views and ill-gotten gains every bit as much. Occurs to me, though, that if her husband was a Democratic candidate we'd all be wondering if it was a setup, regardless of wandering out of her lane and including breathalyzer results.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
7. To your second point, there is no "we" when it comes to stuff like this
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 04:11 AM
Aug 2021

If you stick to your principles, you will get entreated not to eat our own! But heaven help you if you think they're getting railroaded. This is how it goes every time. We pick a side, dig in and hold fast.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. So, in the interest of factional loyalty, we should agree
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:08 AM
Aug 2021

that there's no such thing as considering all possibilities honestly and objectively, but that if there were the guilty should be denounced by all factions.

In a tried and true move to prove innocence to his own factionalists, "livid" Allen West is outraged!, demanding an apology from apparently the entire top government of Dallas and that the officer be fired.

Results of a blood draw post arrest are pending.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
33. I didn't watch the whole thing
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 04:57 PM
Aug 2021

But she seemed to do OK with the eye tracking..

I saw her do the walk...It looked any other person I would see at the grocery store....-

I probably would not do any better myself, completely sober...

It looked like the crazy neuro tests that I have had done...One condition I have is a herniated disc..

I did not watch the rest of the test....
Didn't watch her driving at the beginning....

ETA Now I see that she did the breathalyzer, but did she fail?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. No word on the breathalyzer or blood test they got a
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 05:38 PM
Aug 2021

warrant to perform because she refused it.

A major political hot potato, of course. I looked out of curiosity, and since 2004 Dallas County has become increasingly solidly liberal for TX, Dallas itself "leaning liberal."

https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/texas/dallas

Laffy Kat

(16,376 posts)
5. So she was driving under the influence with a two-year-old child in the backseat?
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:19 AM
Aug 2021

They were so lucky this ended with an arrest and nobody hurt or worse. The parents should be livid.

onenote

(42,661 posts)
16. Maybe she was. It hasn't been determined.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:56 AM
Aug 2021

And like a few others, I don't see evidence in the video that she was obviously drunk. I've been pulled over and forced to do a breathalyzer test and when it didn't register an unlawful level, the cops made me do it again. And again. For some cops, when they pull you over, they've already decided you're under the influence and they will try anything and everything to justify the stop.

The blood draw results should give an answer, but I won't be surprised at the result either way.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
35. I thought she did fine with the field sobriety tests
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 05:20 PM
Aug 2021

I probably couldn't pass...LOL..

I've had herniated discs...

ZZenith

(4,119 posts)
6. Kafkaesque.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:27 AM
Aug 2021

She probably was drunk but man did that officer give off an inhuman vibe. Curious to know what she blew.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
11. Breathalyzer was inconclusive
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:45 AM
Aug 2021

That’s why they took her to get her blood drawn.

I will say that it looked unlike any drunk drivers video I’ve seen… but I suspect that the only ones that make it too common public view are drunk enough to be entertaining.

I’ll keep an open mind. Her story seems consistent with the video - but the blood test will be conclusive.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
13. I read in a Texas paper she refused a voluntary blood draw.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:57 AM
Aug 2021

Last edited Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:16 AM - Edit history (2)

They had to get a warrant for a blood draw. That's why she wasn't released until the next afternoon.
She didn't follow instructions on the roadside tests but they are hard to do. It looked like the cop did the test with the flashlight wrong. They are looking for a sort of bouncing of the eyeball at the extremities which I didn't see when the camera show ed her eyes. I think the cop did her version of the test twice so I may not be the only one that didn't see the eyeballs jerk. Maybe the breath test didn't show anything so the cop kept making her do it.
She's not obviously drunk. She might not be guilty.. By the time the cop asks you to step out of the car they have already decided to arrest you.


FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
14. Me too... but that doesn't show in the video
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:26 AM
Aug 2021

She seems perfectly willing to take the breathalyzer, but can’t seem to do it correctly (or perhaps has limited lung capacity).

Of course… that could also be someone trying to play act and pretend that she doesn’t understand… to avoid a valid test.

Odd that the video skips over the conversation re: why she was pulled over and whether she had anything to drink.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
15. She was over the solid right line a couple of times.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:45 AM
Aug 2021

They must have been flashing the overhead lights for awhile. She stops behind a truck stopped at a light I assume. It's a bit bizare she stays in the middle of the road rather than pulling over.
The blood draw may have been done so long after the stop it may not show her over the limit if it shows anything. Probably she skates..

DFW

(54,328 posts)
8. I must say
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 04:20 AM
Aug 2021

Being married to someone like Allen West would drive any previously rational woman to drink.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
9. In my jurisdiction, if she were really drunk, she would
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:12 AM
Aug 2021

Get another charge like risk of injury to a minor.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
10. This is a nazi persecution of her just for being a Republican freedom fighter!!!
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:17 AM
Aug 2021

Sorry, libtards, but it's "Her body, her choice!"

If the Libstahpo can stop this patriot-in-law for driving HER OWN car in the way and the conditions that SHE chooses to drive in, then we're already halfway to wearing yellow triangles!!

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
17. That driving could also be explained by someone looking
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:56 AM
Aug 2021

at their phone. Most of the time I pass someone obviously weaving and leaving huge traffic gaps, I look and see they are looking down at their phone.

A post here says the breathalyzer was inconclusive and she refused a blood test. If she was just on her phone, it seems she would have explained that and taken the chance on a ticket instead of arrest. But that field test also looks like it could be someone with balance issues in general.

I used to do high impact group exercises at the gym and could keep up with everything except the one-legged stretches at the end where you have to raise a leg to hold it and stretch, but I just couldn’t balance. So it wasn’t that shocking she couldn’t balance.

We’ll see what the bloodwork says.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
21. So would interacting with a grandchild in the back seat
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:39 AM
Aug 2021

Or just a confused older lady who isn't a particularly good driver.

Some reports say that she rejected the blood test, but one was performed. The results will tell the tale.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,319 posts)
23. It seemed like the cop's first dui. I wonder if she was a trainee.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:54 AM
Aug 2021

It sounded like there was another cop in the background. If so, bet they wish they used the instructor on this high profile case.

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
32. that was my thought too. she was even reading instructions, then she got her cellphone so she
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 04:28 PM
Aug 2021

could set the timer. the cop would say to do something, Mrs. West would start and the officer would say wait till I tell you to. over and over. I would've been a nervous wreck, I probably would've cried too, I wouldn't do well with that kind of pressure.

I think this video is kind of brutal.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
37. It was worse than my neuro tests!
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 05:26 PM
Aug 2021

And the balance part of the neuro test also checks for complications of radiculopathy...which is often caused by a herniated disc without any cerebral cause...

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
38. Yeah, that cop needs more training.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 05:27 PM
Aug 2021

She certainly didn’t look blotto like I’ve seen in some videos.

Sympthsical

(9,064 posts)
25. I was pulled over once for suspicion of DUI
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:08 AM
Aug 2021

I hadn't been drinking, but I had been working a lot that week on very little sleep. I was on my way home to pass out entirely for two days. So, I was a touch out of it.

I snapped fully awake once that field test came up, but I couldn't figure out what he wanted me to do. He kept correcting me. It wasn't clear at all. I kept looking around and repeating, "Wait, what?" I must've seemed out of it.

Anyway, I explained things, blew nothing. So, he told me to go home and get some sleep.

Still, it was anxiety-inducing and somewhat confusing at the time.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,319 posts)
28. She didn't look drunk to me.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:30 AM
Aug 2021

If anything, I would say pills.

Absent that, she was probably distracted either by a phone or more likely the kid. That may be why she was driving over the line.

That said, I hope they find evidence and she gets locked up.

Niagara

(7,589 posts)
27. Angela's driving is erratic.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:18 AM
Aug 2021

Over the right of the white line, sitting there for awhile in the middle lane while being instructed to pull over from the police flashers.


Once she gets out of the vehicle, she completes the field sobriety tests just fine, even with incoherent instructions. She doesn't have slurred speech and looks frightened more than anything.



Angela is slightly older than I am and I can't do the sobriety test walk or positions without losing my balance. It is possible that she's a diabetic and had a drop with her blood sugar which could also explain her erratic driving. I know several drivers that have been pulled over in the past while having a diabetic blood sugar drop. Their breath can smell sweet and they appear intoxicated.



If they took blood samples, I guess we'll have to see what the results were.









 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
29. I think if she hadn't stopped in the middle of the
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:44 AM
Aug 2021

Highway she just would have gotten a ticket. The cop decided she was drunk because of that. I guess they have the receipt showing no alcohol. I just going to guess the blood test shows zero.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
34. I thought she did fine with the field sobriety tests
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 05:18 PM
Aug 2021

But what the heck did she do with the breathalyzer?

Come on...now....She knew that a puff wouldn't count...

I'm thinking she may have had a drink or two and did not want to do the test.

However, I don't get the impression that she was impaired.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
41. I had to blow in one of those things to test drive a car at the state fair
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:20 PM
Aug 2021

you have to do a long, sustained blow

Mr.Bill

(24,262 posts)
42. She must have blown something on the breathalyzer
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:44 PM
Aug 2021

or I doubt they would have arrested her.

I will say she was reasonably cooperative and give her extra points for not once saying "Do you know who I am?"

Stopping in the middle lane was not a good move.

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