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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSirhan Sirhan seeks parole with no opposition from prosecutors
Sirhan was arrested at the scene of Kennedys shooting in Los Angeles on June 5, 1968, convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to death for the assassination of a U.S. senator who appeared headed for the Democratic presidential nomination. The assassination, along with that of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. two months earlier, created a turning point in American history with the sudden elimination of the charismatic leaders of the American civil rights movement and the Democratic Party.
When California eliminated the death penalty, Sirhans sentence was reduced to life with the possibility of parole. And now Sirhan, who has been incarcerated for 53 years, may benefit from a new push among progressive prosecutors to seek the release, or not oppose the release, of convicts who have served decades behind bars, no longer pose a threat to society and will be costly to treat medically in their later years.
Newly elected Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascón told The Washington Post shortly before his inauguration in December that he was creating a sentencing review unit to revisit the cases of about 20,000 prisoners for possible re-sentencing, analyzing both the fairness of long sentences and the cost savings for releasing low-risk or older inmates. Gascón issued a directive that his offices default policy would be not to attend parole hearings and to submit letters supporting the release of some inmates who had served their mandatory minimums, while also assisting victims and victim advocates at parole hearings if requested.
In Sirhans case, Gascóns office is remaining neutral. The office said it will not attend the parole hearing, as Los Angeles prosecutors have done historically, but it also will not send a letter in support of Sirhans parole.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/25/sirhan-parole-hearing/
He needs to stay in prison.
Submariner
(12,503 posts)The Kennedy family have endured enough tragedies throughout the families WWII and post war experiences, let's not insult them with this slap in the face. Sirhan signed away his life FOREVER when he pulled that trigger. Period.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Let the bastard rot.
Imagine if we'd gotten RFK instead of Nixon.
dalton99a
(81,443 posts)iemanja
(53,029 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)My life would have been far different with RFK as opposed to Nixon. I'm a military officer's brat. Maybe I would have been born state side. Maybe my dad would have suffered less PTSD. Maybe maybe maybe . . .
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Plenty of people committed the same offense and have been out for years if not decades.
Enough already. These insane prison sentences we hand out are part of the carceral disaster in the US. He's served 53 years for this murder. He's 77 and no threat to anybody.
(Half the people who will oppose this tear up and nod their heads at Red's speech at the end of The Shawshank Redemption).
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)PatSeg
(47,397 posts)At 77, the guy probably doesn't even have any living family members left. Let him have a few years outside of prison before he dies.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,300 posts)From the article:
PatSeg
(47,397 posts)I cannot imagine coming out of prison after 53 years and having no one left.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)PatSeg
(47,397 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)They are sworn to at least attempt to ensure those being paroled actually have had some minimal evidence of rehabilitation and that typically includes acknowledging their crime, culpability, and most important regret/contrition.
Trump is old. He deserves prison for the rest of his life if he is convicted of the many crimes to which there is reason to believe a prosecution could commence.
Age is not the determining factor for a decision on parole or not--nor whether justice should be sought. Fortunately. No matter how often you reply that "he's old" in this thread.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)You really need to think about this. Criminal justice is not simply a factor of how old might be the perpetrator. I find this constant refrain dismally depressing-- as if criminal justice is set by how bored we are now that enough time has passed?
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)He's served over half a century and from what I'm reading, isn't considered a threat to others. Neither of which apples to Trump.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)To your suggestion that he's old and not a risk to others, I'd remind you that Manson never even killed anyone himself--yet he showed no remorse, culpability, and rightfully died behind bars.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)I'll still stand by my earlier statement that it will not bother me if he does get paroled, for the reasons I stated. Nor will it bother me if he doesn't.
I don't get excited about current issues or topics of conversation because with climate change, it's going to get Biblical for all of us soon enough.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)Talk about projection.
Last I checked, this was a discussion board. YOU chose to enter into this thread, this discussion. Yet if anyone else voices an opinion, then THEY (and only THEY) are "acting as though what they or others say makes an impact." If discussion is not the point, then why are you here then?
Your snide comment aside, the truth is that Sirhan Sirhan has been up and denied parole 15 times, most recently in 2019. And, in each of those hearings, the board has made comments on the lack of remorse and admission of culpability. As, I expect most likely to again be an issue coming up.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)My initial post was where I agreed with another DUer. You took exception to that and we discussed our differences. Nothing either of us are saying will sway the other. Agreed? So it's no longer a discussion.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)"Anne Perry (born Juliet Marion Hulme; 28 October 1938) is an English author of historical detective fiction, best known for her Thomas Pitt and William Monk series. In 1954, at the age of fifteen, she was convicted in the murder of her friend's mother, Honora Rieper."
I read Anne Perry's books she and a friend killed the friend's mother as they were going to separated when Honoria Rieper took the friend to Australia....now I know of a 15-year-old kid sentenced to life without parole in Georgia. Our sentencing is way to 'hang them high' for my taste. We have the most draconian laws of any civilized country IMHO. It has been 53 years. Let's show mercy. As for those who say he doesn't show remorse. He says he doesn't remember, how can you be remorseful if you don't remember doing it?
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hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)I can show remorse for any number of things that I had nothing to do with. Slavery, bigotry, racism, homophobia, bullying... Can YOU not?!
Laurence Tribe speaks for me (and for all of us who remember the impact this ONE murder had on the entire country and our future)
Maybe give it a tiny bit of thought before your reflexive, "but he's old." Well, so was Manson and he never killed anyone.
Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
I fail to see why Bobby Kennedys assassin should ever be released from prison. Even at 77, he could be a threat. And the enduring harm he inflicted was incalculable. But for his vicious act, the rest of U.S. history wouldve been different.
Link to tweet
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)blind to that. Every life is meaningful to someone or in this case many someones. I regret that this country ever had such a terrible thing as slavery...our greatest sin and we are still paying the price for it...however. I am not remorseful...I had nothing to do with slavery. I am horrified that they keep finding child victims at closed-down orphanages...the world has been a pretty terrible place for many years. I hope we can in the end make it a better place. I don't like our justice system. I would like to see three-strike laws abolished, low-level drug crimes not come with life sentences...and on and on. I just don't believe when we are talking about this...that had Sirhan Sirhan murdered an anonymous person, there would be an outcry against his release. And that shouldn't be the case...we need to strive towards equality under the law.
JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)MF 45 is 75
Giuliani is 77
Charles Koch 85
Adelson 87
He could be dangerous.
I am opposed to the death penalty. Murder should be for life. You take a life, you owe a life.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)for people with his sentence.
His sentence was converted to life with the possibility of parole. He should be assessed under the same standard as others with that sentence for similar charges.
JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)Loss of freedom for the rest of your life - for a life.
I come at this from my cousin being the 13th murder (by gun shot) in Rochester NY in 1991. So take my opinion with a grain of salt. His murderer should not have face 'street justice' for being a snitch - he should have spent the rest of his life in prison.
Those of us who have experienced the murder of a loved one in this manner - have a colored view of justice. It's fair for us to 'think' the way we do.
I didn't think Squeaky Fromme should have been paroled either.
You can't take it back.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)and acknowledgement of his crime, there should be no consideration for parole. That is standard for parole in most states. He has taken no responsibility and acknowledges no regret. NONE.
JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)He really doesn't 'get' what he did. And if he doesn't 'get' it - then he doesn't care.
Elessar Zappa
(13,960 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Half the people who will oppose this tear up and nod their heads at Red's speech at the end..."
You do realize one is a film and the other an actual assassination, yes? Conflating the two does rational thought little good.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)LeftInTX
(25,231 posts)He has vetoed all of the Manson family's, even when the parole board recommended parole
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)If it comes after, it's anyone's guess.
(Also, the fact that Leslie Van Houten and Robert Beausoleil are still in California prisons is ridiculous).
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)CanonRay
(14,098 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Why shouldn't he receive the same consideration as other inmates with similar criminal convictions?
CanonRay
(14,098 posts)Let him apply. Then let him rot in prison.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)He was convicted under the California penal code. He wasn't convicted under the "World Historical Events" code.
treestar
(82,383 posts)where the notoriety of the crime appears to mean the punishment should be worse. Or the fame of the victim.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)LeftInTX
(25,231 posts)All of them on death row got their sentences changed and were eligible for parole
Manson was thus eligible to apply for parole after seven years' incarceration.[74] His first parole hearing took place on November 16, 1978, at California Medical Facility in Vacaville, where his petition was rejected.[75][76]
Sirhan has been eligible for parole since 1982
dalton99a
(81,443 posts)Sirhan Sirhan in March 2011. (AP)
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The mongrel deserves to die in solitary. If you take someone's life in such a brutal manner, you do not deserve to walk free.
Also, he hurt this country.
former9thward
(31,974 posts)He is not a threat to anyone and our prison sentences are absurdly long for even somewhat minor crimes (no, the murder of RFK was not a minor crime).
For him to remain while other people who murder get out after 12 -20 years means he is a political prison. We should not have political prisoners in the U.S. no matter who the victim was.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"For him to remain while other people who murder get out after 12 -20 years means he is a political prison..."
You are unable to perceive any other possibility other than that? Odd blinders you force yourself to wear.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)our justice and prison systems work, we might as well put them against the wall and shoot them. People who have paid for their crimes mostly can't find jobs, can't vote, etc...And the color of justice is green (not saying this case meets the criteria but many do) where poor folks never get out for minor crimes and for the more well-to-do, Justice is certainly more merciful shall we say. I believe in mercy. Surely 53 years is enough of a punishment. It is for me anyway. Also, allow me to say, I oppose the death sentence in all cases. It is an abomination as far as I am concerned.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)But his sentence was reduced when CA eliminated that punishment.
iemanja
(53,029 posts)but California then banned it.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)I know. That was a mistake that California made.
We're still feeling the history of that assassination. The murder should tell the truth behind it.
hookaleft
(938 posts)Californians disagree.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)solely because the victim was someone they admired.
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Im completely against the death penalty except in very specific cases. Which means you support it. Nobody who supports the death penalty supports it for every single crime in every case.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Because it's so true
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)It was required to do so under the Supreme Court's ruling
Celerity
(43,299 posts)of the brutishness that still pervades the American zeitgeist.
Out of the 49 independent states in Europe, only Belarus and Russia still have it on the books. The rest have completely abolished it.
The US is on par with brutal dictatorships like Iran, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia (plus many more) and also quasi-totalitarian state governments like China in its continued use.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)LeftInTX
(25,231 posts)It wasn't just California...
Polybius
(15,381 posts)Well why not? It should have been.
iemanja
(53,029 posts)Maybe because it was successfully prosecuted at the state level.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Now if he killed someone else, somewhere else, then it could have been a Federal case (or it could have been California first, and then the other state). We don't treat people differently because they're Kennedy's. Arguably, Sirhan has been treated differently. Your average gang banger, drug dealer, or carjacker convicted of murder doesn't spend 55 years in jail.
Polybius
(15,381 posts)Feds could have prosecuted Sirhan.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)More serious than a mere 40 characters could ever achieve.
We wish you well, actually!!!!
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)to appreciate the horrific nature of his crime? Obviously, relative youth doesn't always mean a difficulty in appreciating or being directed by history, but... Seems to me that anyone alive during that time is duly horrified by this.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)in California 50 years ago have been released on parole?
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)(whose conviction was as murky as they come) is released-- rather than continued to be incarcerated, now for more than 40 years to appease RW members of the FBI, you might have a point.
Sirhan Sirhan has NEVER acknowledged any regret whatsoever. NEVER. And that should be a part of any parole consideration.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)He should be assessed under the same standard as anyone else with a similar crime/fact pattern and sentence.
People have literally committed similar crimes in the 70s and 80s and have been paroled.
Peltier is in federal prison, which has different standards. He was also convicted of two (not one) first degree murders, and received consecutive life sentences. That said, he should also receive the same consideration and treatment as others with a similar offense pattern and sentence.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)I don't know many parole boards that will grant release without signs the individual sincerely regrets and acknowledges his act and thus has been rehabilitated. You seem unconcerned about this lack of contrition. and that is frankly deeply disturbing to me. If he is released, I assume you are quite willing for him to move next door to you but I'd never wish that to those who argued the need for him to show in even the most minimal way that he has been rehabilitated.
JohnSJ
(92,126 posts)U.S. Senator, and a probable President of the United States, is not comparable to other cases as some are trying to make in this thread, and the fact that he has shown no remorse is more than enough reason why he should not be paroled
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)Since I am at work, you will have to do your own research.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)the emphasis on lack of contrition. Any half decent criminal can fake contrition. And even if he had contrition, how does that mean he's no longer a danger? He'll be contrite until the next time he feels like murdering someone and then he'll readily cook up a reason why the person deserves to be killed. Contrition just makes society feel better.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)I don't know what you don't get. Why even bother to punish murderers? Since you believe yourself to know better, please outline YOUR CRITERIA for parole boards to follow in making their decision. You might remember that these boards take their decisions quite seriously, given they are the last line of justice for victims' families and protection for society against additional violent crimes.
I know you know better than Laurence Tribe, but he speaks for me.
Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
I fail to see why Bobby Kennedys assassin should ever be released from prison. Even at 77, he could be a threat. And the enduring harm he inflicted was incalculable. But for his vicious act, the rest of U.S. history wouldve been different.
Link to tweet
Polybius
(15,381 posts)Or says he can't remember.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)I vote no.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)If you are a lawyer please go away.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)saying that family and friends can be affected or even strangers if the case is publicized. But they are not the victims...now I will happily go away.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,279 posts)is would I be okay with them living next door to me. Sirhan is a definite no on that question.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"proportional punishment" and no parole.
He's spent 53 years in prison for a crime committed as a fucked-up 24-year-old, an argument for paroling him long ago.
And the notion that we should keep him in prison to avoid insulting the Kennedy family because of all the "tragedies throughout the families WWII and post war experiences"... (!)
All problems in applying the principles of justice in the real world are absolutely nothing to how much of the citizenry would have it. Mercifully for all of us, the centuries of principles our justice system is based on mostly reflect the best of what humanity has been able to produce.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)Something he has NEVER done.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)seem to be an argument against parole. Are they applied rigidly, do you know, or can individual cases be considered?
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)acknowledging CONSCIOUS guilt for those whose memory MIGHT be in question.
Most parole boards appear to require something more than "he's just old" as a justification. They actually do expect some remorse. I am glad that they do.
That wasn't JUST a murder of ONE man in its incredible harm. The Latino waiter who held RFK's hand against his rosary was affected his entire life. I read his account several times over the years and I carry his horror and sadness. So, too was most of the country. I will never forget. And no one else gets to forgive and unilaterally determine it is time to close the page on the behalf of ALL affected.
Again, I hope to hell the parole board requires more than just "he's old" and costing us $$ as justification. Many innocents languish in prison despite prosecution now agreeing they were indeed innocent. They get my attention and great concern. Sirhan Sirhan gets NONE.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Of course.
I believe society is at an inflection point in this regard, though; and assuming liberal principles and ideals mostly prevail, justice will also. No great hopes for improvement in human fallibilities, of course, certainly not in this era, but I have real hope that with advances in forensic science, much better ability to monitor authorities, and greater assimilation of minorities and women into all levels of society, convicting innocents will be far less possible in the future. Already is. And society's standards, expectations, and levels of acceptance will continue to rise with new norms.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,300 posts)which seems more relevant than our views:
In 2018, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told The Post that he thought that Sirhan had not killed his father and that he had met with Sirhan in prison to tell him so. Kennedy said this week that he supports Sirhans parole application and that he still thinks a second gunman committed the assassination but that he would not participate in the parole process and declined to comment further. Robert Kennedy Jr.s stance against vaccines, most recently the coronavirus vaccine, has drawn controversy.
Former Maryland lieutenant governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend said in 2018 that she supported her brothers call for a reinvestigation of their fathers assassination. She declined to comment before the parole hearing, as did human rights activist Kerry Kennedy and former congressman Joseph P. Kennedy II.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)conceivably even the Kennedy family's preferences for this man's life.
Kathleen's opinion on the investigation seemed worth considering, though. Her brother's become increasingly given to irrational and malicious conspiracy theories over the years, and I wouldn't trust him to name his favorite ice cream.
Aristus
(66,316 posts)I think having him think about that in prison for the rest of the life he made for himself is appropriate.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Just like the pos murder that killed the father in Texas on the highway and his kids drive the car to a place to get help. Hopefully they catch the person and give him or her the death penalty or life.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)You are talkin about a guy who hasn't been caught yet and we are talking of a prisoner who has served over 50 years in prison and is up there in years.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)Also a fair point: The whole Well, he did a bad thing a long time ago but hes old and all, and you know, it was a really long time ago argument is pretty weak tea.
iemanja
(53,029 posts)particularly African Americans, remain in prison for a lifetime for charges less serious than murder.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)iemanja
(53,029 posts)not just California.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)In those cases, I wouldn't mind if they got paroled after serving 50+ years, are considered to be not a threat to others and are up there in years. I think you'd agree with me.
iemanja
(53,029 posts)Unless we're talking about someone who has also murdered.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)offenders. It is a disgrace that California has such a law and Washington state too.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)a law...Washington state too.
tenderfoot
(8,426 posts)How about Squeaking Fromme?
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)UnderThisLaw
(318 posts)And she hasnt pointed a gun at anyone since.
Whether Van Houten, who was not present for Tate, inflicted any fatal injuries the second night is uncertain. I doubt if she is a threat to anyone now
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)I don't think they are a danger, but they did commit a heinous crime. Even up for me.
marie999
(3,334 posts)When you murder someone you change the lives of everyone who loved them.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)We have a DUer who lost a daughter to a drunk driver. I don't think the drunk driver got life in prison without the possibility of parole.
marie999
(3,334 posts)I should have written 1st degree murder.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)most civilized countries...murderers do not spend a lifetime in prison...except for the most heinous crimes where the person may be a danger still...they get out. Our laws are dreadful IMHO...hang them high in the US is how I view it.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)edbermac
(15,937 posts)Like the creep who killed Lennon, hell be there until he dies.
denbot
(9,899 posts)Rot there you bastard.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)it's not what they did, it's who they did
ripcord
(5,333 posts)He refuses to file firearms and hate crime sentencing enhancements.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Paladin
(28,252 posts)honest.abe
(8,673 posts)Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)but we should all be equal under the law.
honest.abe
(8,673 posts)that's equal.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Response to iemanja (Original post)
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NNadir
(33,512 posts)To my mind, by definition there is nothing "to agree" on here. A nut is a nut is a nut.
elevator
(415 posts)That is what the folks who do these things rely on. You must be very happy.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)All three are doing vast damage in the world.
elevator
(415 posts)Synonyms for conspiracies include plan, collaboration, collusion, strategem, scheme, plot and many other common words that describe everyday things that are happening everywhere in the world.
One does not have to be obsessed to know conspiracies exist. It is all about doing enough research and using common sense to know which are factual.
Denial of the truth is doing more harm than the three things you listed.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)...before humanity and I have little time or interest in kooky stuff.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,323 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)He killed a hero. He can Stay there until his last breath.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
I fail to see why Bobby Kennedys assassin should ever be released from prison. Even at 77, he could be a threat. And the enduring harm he inflicted was incalculable. But for his vicious act, the rest of U.S. history wouldve been different.
Link to tweet
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)justice according to their perceived worth in society. Justice should be blind. The homeless guy down the street who is killed in a drive-by shooting should receive the same level of concern and justice as a well-connected person. And, we incarcerate people of color at a higher rate and for decades longer than a white person for the same crime in general.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)And I've seen no one here who would advocate less justice (parole with no contrition, no remorse, nor rehabilitation) for the murderer of a homeless man or anyone else. That is a wickedly irresponsible accusation.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)such sentiments are speculative at best. We don't know if Kennedy would have won or what he would have done if he did win. Justice needs to accord people from all walks of life equal justice...don't we say 'equal justice under the law...well it doesn't exist...but it should.
hlthe2b
(102,220 posts)the impacts of RFK's assassination so soon after JFK and MLK. Those of us who lived through it AND take the lessons of history to heart look at it quite differently. Fortunately, not all ignore the lessons of history.
I have to say that I find your comments distressingly uninformed. If you are very young, I can understand and would normally try fevently to be more patient and to help you to do so. However, you made a very ugly accusation towards those who disagree with you that they don't care about the average person murdered, including the homeless, yet have not corrected yourself nor apologized. So, I am ending my discussion with you. I find that beyond a mere hyperbolic comment.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)perpetrators are judged more or less equal depending on their perceived worth to society. You are right, I have no memory of any of the murders you discuss. However, I do believe that we should all be judged equally under that law...it is horrifying to me that we are one of the few countries with a death penalty and that people can rot for decades in prison for very minor crimes. This man has served a lifetime in prison and the identity of the victim should not matter. It is not uncommon to release even murders at the end of their lives when they are not a danger to society after they have served many years in prison. All lives should be considered precious. and all should receive equal justice.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)and I'm surprised at Tribe who usually knows better. This is why I hate victim impact statements. The crime involved when a toothless, drug-addicted, homeless guy with no family to come to court and recite tearjerking stories about the impact of his death when he gets run down by a drunk driver is the same as if the drunk hit a young family guy with babies and a pretty wife.
Plus, saying that Sirhan killing RFK made a huge difference in our country is speculative at best and should not be something criminal penalties are based on. RFK could have started WW3 or he could have started a pogrom to rid the country of all Communists. He could have turned Vietnam into a model Democracy and ended our dependence on fossil fuel. We'll never know.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The overuse of victim impact statements in our criminal justice system is proof positive that our society values some lives over others.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)That is some serious what-if'n.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Seems a bit more punitive to release him so he can't get it? Though he'd qualify for Medicaid, as he would not have any money.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)And being allowed to apply for it 15 times already.
MissMillie
(38,548 posts)A comedian making a joke about Sirhan's arguments for his parole. Sirhan used to argue that RFK would approve of his parole.
The comedian noted the irony that Sirhan killed the ONE PERSON that approved of his parole.