POTUS will speak at 5 pm re Kabul attack

[IcyPeas]

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. This will be the most important address he's given in his long political life

Given how much we all know he cares about the men and women in uniform, I would not be surprised if he's spent a good portion of the day pondering whether he should resign.

*I* am not saying that he should or I want him to, AT ALL.

You KNOW this has hit him extremely hard and it's a very good bet that he's putting a lot of it on himself. Hell, many would in his shoes.

[TheProle]

5. No chance he's agonizing over resigning

He has remained resolute in his mission for withdrawal.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

7. I don't think he will, and I'm sure it will pass, but today?

Knowing of him what I think I do ... I would bet he's very distraught, and at least in part, blaming himself.

Not that he should blame himself, but I'd guess he might.

When this is all over, in a few weeks or months, someone close to him will probably go public with how it impacted him.

We'll see who was correct when that happens.

[TheProle]

9. "We'll see who was correct when that happens"

Odd response. I am not in some prognostication contest with you.

The President is a good man, and I am sure self-reflection will be on the menu.

I do not, however, believe that he's wringing his hands wondering if he should just pack it in even as Americans are dying.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

12. I didn't mean it to sound like a contest, just an observation that we may eventually know

one way or the other.

And I'm 100% sure he's not going to do it, esp. not, as you say 'as Americans are dying'.

[TheProle]

13. Thanks for the clarification

sorry if I misconstrued.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

15. No problem, I understand how it could've come off like that :) nt

[Cha]

17. I agree.. That's Not who he is.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

6. I'm not sure why he would think about resigning?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. See post #7 ... MHO ...

[BlueCheeseAgain]

10. Biden has been around a long time.

The weight of the office is heavy, but I think he's prepared for it.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

18. Probably I'm just projecting my own personal weakness onto Joe ...

I'm thinking if I'm in his shoes, I've been bashed for 11 days straight, few Democrats are publicly coming to my defense in that time, in fact Dem leaders in the House are calling for investigations ... and now this happens?

Knowing how much and how deeply he cares about the safety and lives of our soldiers ... as well as knowing that a serious intelligence failure (Kabul falling almost instantly) happened on his watch ...

The totality of that situation (much of it he's being unfairly blamed for, as I've very consistently said the past 11 days) would cause ME to question whether I'm the right person for the job.

But I'm nowhere near the man Joe Biden is, I freely admit.

[Cha]

30. Mahalo, Hugh

[WarGamer]

20. None of this is Biden's fault.

Blame the people at fault in DoD and State.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

22. WG you know I've been defending Joe at every turn the past 11 days ...

And I agree.

I'd add IQ45 as well. And BushCheney.

[WarGamer]

23. I know... you've been 100% consistent.

[Cha]

16. Hel No.. Pres Biden is Not a Quitter.

Of course he's extremely upset about the deaths of our Military people by fucking bombers.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

19. See post #18 nt

[Cha]

24. I don't have to.. you said you thought

he might be thinking about "resigning" ..

I say NO way.

Edit to clarify.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

28. And I expounded in post #18. Read it or don't, I don't care my dear Cha (nt)

[alphafemale]

25. Oh fer fuqs sake

You think he's made of wet tissue paper that is going to wilt and flop over at adversity?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

29. See post #18, and no I never said he's going to (nt)

[Hekate]

2. Thanks for the headsup

[Irish_Dem]

3. Hope he tells Americans that evacuating from a war zone is not like disembarking from a cruise ship

What do civilians think war is like? It is brutal, horrific and deadly.
Even the end game. Jebus God, people get with the program and understand what war is like.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

4. What happened today is so sad.

These soldiers were there on a humanitarian mission, trying to write a hopeful end to a long and grim war.

Politically, it's simply disgusting how quickly Republicans used these dead soldiers to gleefully attack President Biden.

[W_HAMILTON]

11. And fuck anyone that gives them a voice to do so.

You expect that shit from Fox and other extreme conservative media outlets, but I better not see that shit on MSNBC or CNN -- AT ALL.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

21. These are the same RePuQs that would, if the shoe were on the other foot

Be relentlessly hewing and crying about the wicked Dem's 'politicizing a tragedy'.

[Cha]

14. Oh good.. I was waiting for news on this.. TY

[alphafemale]

26. 5PM Biden time.

So maybe 6:15pm ish ish

I'm assuming the networks are going to carry this one.

[Ron Green]

27. It's been the wrong thing for 20 years.

Why should it suddenly go right?