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https://www.newsandguts.com/video/roll-the-tape-trump-bragged-about-forcing-biden-to-exit-afghanistan-early/
Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper said he was concerned that then-President Donald Trump "undermined" the US' 2020 agreement with the Taliban by pushing for US forces to leave Afghanistan without the Taliban meeting the conditions of the deal.
The Trump deal and his desire to see American troops return home as quickly as possible gave the Taliban a sense of leverage.
UKs defense minister Ben Wallace, a member of the Conservative Party, recently told the BBC, The die was cast when the deal was done by Donald Trump, if you want my observation. President Biden inherited a momentum, a momentum that had been given to the Taliban because they felt they had now won.
So I think in that sense, the seeds of what were seeing today were before President Biden took office. The seeds were a peace deal that was [effectively] rushed, that wasnt done in collaboration properly with the international community and then a dividend taken out incredibly quickly, Wallace added.
Biden echoed these sentiment on Saturday, saying, When I became President, I faced a choice follow through on the deal, with a brief extension to get our forces and our allies forces out safely, or ramp up our presence and send more American troops to fight once again in another countrys civil conflict.
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Two months ago, Trump gloated about the tough spot in which he placed Biden (watch above). He told a crowd of supporters, I started the process. All the troops are coming home. They couldnt stop the process. They couldnt stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process.
Worth remembering that some Trump-aligned Republicans argued last fall that Biden was the candidate whod continue wars in the Middle East and Trump was the withdrawal candidate.
Link to tweet
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)As was the article being quoted from here:
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-defense-minister-blames-trump-afghanistan-taliban-crisis-2021-8
The tweet of Juniors was posted here on the 15th, the day that everything went sideways.
This is a re-post from the Sunday and Monday that were at the start of the whole thing.
I know this because I posted all three pieces of the OP on my FB feed, on the 15th and 16th, and I got this info from DU at that time.
Not that its not good to reiterate/remind, but this is not a 'find'
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)should be able to find too, but dont want facts. Want drama. Slammed the bungler hat on Biden and like how it looks.
louis-t
(23,284 posts)eternal war in Afghanistan.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)every day, on every channel. Trump has to be held countable for his actions!
spanone
(135,815 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)spanone
(135,815 posts)malaise
(268,856 posts)Lock him up!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)turned the tables on trump by sending more troops in blaming trump for putting Americans and Afghans at risk instead of waiting until we were forced to send more troops in (which is what happened) while people fell off a plane.
I just dont think anyone WH, military, State Department, etc. thought this through and prepared for problems.
Should have listened to Hilary Clinton in May, 2021. She foresaw this mess, including government collapsing and Taliban taking over.
moondust
(19,971 posts)You can't seriously expect a malignant narcissist whose entire life has been dedicated to serving himself to negotiate and make deals with foreign "enemies" that will benefit anybody but himself.
I doubt he had the foresight in early 2020 to see the potential mess he was leaving for the next guy, but his boss in Moscow--who may have earlier paid bounties on the heads of U.S. military in Afghanistan--surely knew.
Russia Is Enjoying America's Failureand Cozying Up to the Taliban
Cha
(297,048 posts)GoodRaisin
(8,921 posts)And, he made the choice he had to make to put this crap at an end. It was the best choice in the long run for this country and for our military, and he has taken full responsibility for making that choice.
That is what real Presidents do.