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Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:48 PM Aug 2021

Didn't see this coming. The media is walking in step with the January 6th Insurrectionists.

The way they're handling the news regarding Afghanistan is just incredible to watch. This is our American dysfunction. There is no middle ground. Do we even have a sense of what good vs evil looks like anymore when every organization that should set the example always seems to be on a destroy mission of its own?

I'm so disappointed in this country. Every day it feels like the American experience involves walking in a wasteland of blowhards and/or liars. I KNOW we can do better.

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Didn't see this coming. The media is walking in step with the January 6th Insurrectionists. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 OP
It's beyond the pale. StarryNite Aug 2021 #1
My money is on Joe and Nancy. Mme. Defarge Aug 2021 #2
I will repeat it, but for me, it's more than just a self pep talk PortTack Aug 2021 #3
The M$M is not your friend. BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #4
+ 100 Yup... I'm surprised the M$M wasn't involved on 1-6-21, beating cops with abqtommy Aug 2021 #5
+1 jalan48 Aug 2021 #8
Agree. mountain grammy Aug 2021 #10
Indeed. It is really controlled and not at all in our interest. I do find a few exceptions. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #16
Middle ground doesn't harvest eye balls and hence profits. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #6
look back then , they said it was a riot ! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #7
American media are the pits. Aussie105 Aug 2021 #9
i not dissapinted in this country, im dissapointed in most of the ruling class. AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #11
All the MSM is owned by RWers. They want the democrat agenda to fail. overleft Aug 2021 #12
Sorry, but what does reporting on Afghanistan have to do with Jan 6? brooklynite Aug 2021 #13
Maybe I can remember another kind of reporter, especially during times of strife. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #22
I heard a discussion on NPR this morning wnylib Aug 2021 #14
We would be wiped out as a country if it weren't for the readily available vaccines. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #15
sounds entirely logical to make that assumption. FreeeeDumb!! Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #17
But along with many others my age on DU, wnylib Aug 2021 #21
I'm old enought to remember JFK's funeral. I was young and it was riveting. Dad was a WW II vet and Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #23
Yes, I remember that funeral. wnylib Aug 2021 #25
Good recollection. The world was behind us after 9-11 too. W pissed that away. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #27
Is it surprising? For several years a large % of Americans are a on foreign payroll. jaxexpat Aug 2021 #18
Good vs evil is simply defined by "will it make us money" NewHendoLib Aug 2021 #19
That high volume 24/7 anti Biden attack revealed how deeply supportive of the billionaire class our ShazamIam Aug 2021 #20
The media has been bought off by someone. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #24
The headline here is a bit misleading Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #26

StarryNite

(9,443 posts)
1. It's beyond the pale.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:54 PM
Aug 2021

And what is really sick is that we know there are Americans who are glad that we lost service members and Afghan citizens just because they see it as a way to further their own agenda.

Mme. Defarge

(8,027 posts)
2. My money is on Joe and Nancy.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:58 PM
Aug 2021

Stay tuned and hang in.

Confession: I said this more as a pep talk for myself than as a reply to your post.

PortTack

(32,755 posts)
3. I will repeat it, but for me, it's more than just a self pep talk
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:15 PM
Aug 2021

They have history and experience behind them, they are masters at their craft!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
4. The M$M is not your friend.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:16 PM
Aug 2021

They are fully paid up card carrying members of the right wing military industrial complex.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. + 100 Yup... I'm surprised the M$M wasn't involved on 1-6-21, beating cops with
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:51 PM
Aug 2021

their cameras and sound gear.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
7. look back then , they said it was a riot !
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:12 PM
Aug 2021

well , the editor's changed there tune when they got piled on ! trump haveing fun in the damn tent & damn near piss his britches watching on the tv screen with the rug rat's of his ! riot my ass ! insurrection at it's best ! hoping the committee & doj can straighten this shit out & put whole lot of traitor's in prison !

Aussie105

(5,380 posts)
9. American media are the pits.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:24 PM
Aug 2021

Following their own mantra of . . . . .whatever that is they are projecting.

Australian media are shamelessly following suit. Bought the whole Afghanistan panic deal about . . . whatever.

Any World Media doing it better? Any signs of intelligence out there?






AllaN01Bear

(18,155 posts)
11. i not dissapinted in this country, im dissapointed in most of the ruling class.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:31 PM
Aug 2021

the government class and the 5th estate . humbug.

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he needs to do an update .

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
22. Maybe I can remember another kind of reporter, especially during times of strife.
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 09:44 AM
Aug 2021

Our media is coming across gleefully confrontational. There is no sense of a president that they respect. It's tear down reporting. Just like they did in Clinton's time. And in so doing, they're are playing into the right's hands.

What I would have wanted to see was fair reporting. We had literally tens of thousands Afghan vets who could tell the story in a different way. Where were they in the early days of their reporting? The media heads should save their admonishment for the Republicans in Congress who dragged their feet on expediting Visas, they should have highlighted the fact that the State Department provided Americans in Afghanistan warnings months before the withdrawal began. These Americans chose to put themselves and our soldiers in danger by turning the withdrawal into a high risk operation.

Fair reporting. Provide all the facts at the same time. Is that so hard?

wnylib

(21,431 posts)
14. I heard a discussion on NPR this morning
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 09:12 PM
Aug 2021

about the delta variant's worldwide effect and how various nations are coping. There was a guest from Asia. Didn't get his name or country of origin because I started listening part way into it. I think he was from China (slight accent) but now lives in the US or Canada. Not sure, but I think he was a journalist. He talked about a recent trip to Asia and about other places he has been.

After talking about China's very strictly enforced covid policies, he said that even other countries in Asia have very high compliance with policies, voluntarily, without China's enforcement tactics. He mentioned the lockdowns in Australia that people grumble about, but comply with. The individualism in Europe means less constrictions and more grumbling, but generally people are complying in most places.

But, he said that the US has the worst record in the world for compliance with health guidelines like masks and vaccines. People in other nations are appalled that Americans have free vaccines and refuse them as well as masks and get away with it, causing massive outbreaks. According to that NPR guest, when Asian nations get news about massive outbreaks in the US and refusal to enforce policies to fight the pandemic, they regard us as backward and a failed state, not worthy of respect any more.

wnylib

(21,431 posts)
21. But along with many others my age on DU,
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 09:53 PM
Aug 2021

I remember a time when the US was respected and admired in most places, despite our faults. So sad to see how low we have sunk.

It started going downhill with Raygun, deregulations, trickle on economics, and a backlash against civil rights gains. Junior Bush accelerated the downhill slide with unnecessary corporate wars and more deregulation and praise for economic "freedumb" (for the top one percenters). TFG finished the race to the bottom with his grifting and catering to Russian interests.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
23. I'm old enought to remember JFK's funeral. I was young and it was riveting. Dad was a WW II vet and
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 09:45 AM
Aug 2021

both parents lived through the Depression as kids. It saddens me too. We have fallen far and the leaders you mention got us here.

wnylib

(21,431 posts)
25. Yes, I remember that funeral.
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:28 PM
Aug 2021

I also remember that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the world stood with us. There was a report from that time saying that JFK offered to show proof of the Cuban missiles to European leaders before the UN session began and the response was that proof was not necessary at that time because the word of the US president was enough.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
18. Is it surprising? For several years a large % of Americans are a on foreign payroll.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 09:27 PM
Aug 2021

How connected to money from abroad is your income? It's probable that the highest earners at the highest levels are beholden to non-American interests for the security of their lifestyles. We celebrated internationalism in the Clinton era but our government's regulatory efforts never met the challenge, hiding their ineptitude after so many attempts to understand and explain it using terminology from and for the roaring twenties of the last century. We inherit a generation who've given over to cynicism on a scale unimagined. Is it a wonder to anyone that a media so corrupt thrives on it's own fantasies?

ShazamIam

(2,570 posts)
20. That high volume 24/7 anti Biden attack revealed how deeply supportive of the billionaire class our
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 09:34 PM
Aug 2021

media is. Biden and the Democratic must not be allowed to pass that reconciliation budget. And the Republicans and Trump must be protected. After all the media not just Fox, all of them supported Trump's big lie by allowing the supporters have the microphone anytime they wanted it.

Mad_Machine76

(24,406 posts)
26. The headline here is a bit misleading
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:42 PM
Aug 2021

the media isn't necessarily covering for the 1/6 insurrectionists. They've just found a shiny new toy to talk about endlessly- for at least a while.

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