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WTF is it with CNN and their non stop attacks on Biden? (Original Post) TeslaNova Aug 2021 OP
War is profitable True Blue American Aug 2021 #1
And who is it that owns them? 2naSalit Aug 2021 #3
People being grown-ups: Booooorrrring! Grokenstein Aug 2021 #2
I know. This exit of 100,000+ has been a miracle. The Taliban were even surprised applegrove Aug 2021 #4
One problem is that if they mention 13 Americans killed, some view it as anti-Biden. Hoyt Aug 2021 #5
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #6
Anyone bothered by an outlets coverage, change channels. JohnSJ Aug 2021 #7
My guess Windy City Charlie Aug 2021 #8
They need Fox viewers. nt chowder66 Aug 2021 #9
They glorify the military and war. LisaM Aug 2021 #10
Head of CNN Jeff Zucker was quoted (during Obama's terms) as saying "Chaos is good for CNN" RockRaven Aug 2021 #11
TFG's dumpster fire of an administration was more interesting. Ocelot II Aug 2021 #12
It's got an "American exceptionalism" agenda. David__77 Aug 2021 #13
Ratings, Ad dollars I feel. LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #14
Look at who owns your news outlets BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #15
Made you look. Iggo Aug 2021 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2021 #17
How, under the circumstances, did Biden do that? Trump & Pompeo made a "deal" to exit May 1... Hekate Aug 2021 #18
If you want to change the narrative..TURN IT OFF!! Tank their ratings PortTack Aug 2021 #19
Easy fix Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #20
really everyone involved - BADLY MISCALCULATED Skittles Aug 2021 #21
Yep. Treefrog Aug 2021 #23
It's what the news does No President has ever been exempt fescuerescue Aug 2021 #22

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
2. People being grown-ups: Booooorrrring!
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:25 PM
Aug 2021

Republicans acting like toddlers and the train wrecks they cause: Exciting!!

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
4. I know. This exit of 100,000+ has been a miracle. The Taliban were even surprised
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:29 PM
Aug 2021

by how quickly Kabul fell and then some ISIS K got free.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. One problem is that if they mention 13 Americans killed, some view it as anti-Biden.
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:31 PM
Aug 2021

It’s not good, and we know it will be used like Benghazi on steroids, but it happened and people will question was it worth it.

Same for people falling off plane, being surprised there are non-troop Americans who need to be evacuated, Afghans they seemed to think one or two cargo planes were enough to get them out, and Hillary Clinton having to help at risk women, etc. We weren’t prepared to start.

Reporting wasn’t biased, inconvenient maybe. Heck, no major Democrat spoke out in favor of the mess, even though for withdrawal.

With that said, after the initial outrage, Biden — or more likely the military and State Department — have gotten their rears in gear and brought in more troops and planes to get people out.

BigmanPigman

(51,562 posts)
6. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:35 PM
Aug 2021

That is always the answer when it comes to the media.

They can kiss this viewer Good-bye until they act like a professional news organization instead of a ratings grabbing machine. Fuck them! Too bad they will never know of my boycott and if they did they wouldn't give a shit anyway.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
8. My guess
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:12 AM
Aug 2021

My guess is they have some advertisers either on CNN or on CNN's sister networks that have made profits off the war, and that ad $ is dependent on it continuing.

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
10. They glorify the military and war.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:36 AM
Aug 2021

Even MSNBC does it. They cheer-led.the wars going back to the Bush years (at least). Why would they stop now?

RockRaven

(14,886 posts)
11. Head of CNN Jeff Zucker was quoted (during Obama's terms) as saying "Chaos is good for CNN"
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:41 AM
Aug 2021

CNN is not trying to inform, teach, educate, edify, or any of that high-minded shite journalists resort to when their industry is rightly criticized for its failures. CNN -- and FUX and MSNBC -- are trying to make some fucking profits. That is what they are up to. That is it. It really is that simple.

Controversy is good for their business. Partisanship is good for their business. Anxiety and fear are good for their business.

Also, why the heck do Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, etc buy commercials on cable news networks and broadcast networks? They don't sell shit to Joe Schmoe Viewer watching the nightly news or sportsball game, do they?

Oh... But that's a legal and valid way of giving money to the networks, isn't it? And we the audience are supposed to expect that has no influence on editorial or production decisions?

What do those ads actually return to them... Hmm?

Those networks don't give a shit about Trump or Biden. They care about their profits. If they get enough profits then they'll have enough money (as a corporation and as individual people) that it doesn't matter which party is in power. You must have noticed that rich people/companies do just fine under administrations from both parties. In the meantime, the priority is to get and stay rich to get and stay privileged.

Chaos and controversy drive revenue. Fear and anxiety drive revenue. Partisanship and hate drive revenue. Revenue drives what is aired.

Ocelot II

(115,576 posts)
12. TFG's dumpster fire of an administration was more interesting.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:43 AM
Aug 2021

Reporting on the competent administration of government is just too boring for them so they have to spice it up a bit and manufacture crises.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
14. Ratings, Ad dollars I feel.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:31 AM
Aug 2021
CNN’s ‘New Day’ Hits 7-Year Ratings Low in July.

CNN’s “New Day” hit a seven-year low in the advertiser-coveted age demographic of viewers from 25 to 54 in July. It was the least-watched cable news program in the demo for the month.

The drop came after an anchor shuffle at “New Day” and a series of viral clips aimed at correcting COVID-19 misinformation and hitting rival network Fox News for its opinion programming on the vaccine.

Here’s how the numbers broke down in July, according to Nielsen Media Research ratings data: Fox News’ “Fox & Friends” averaged 1.1 million viewers from 6 a.m. ET to 9 a.m. ET. Of those, 200,000 were in the demo. MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” took in an average of 903,000 total viewers, of whom 117,000 were between 25 and 54. CNN brought in 450,000 total average viewers for “New Day” in that time slot, and of those, only 84,000 were in the key demo.

As has been widely reported, cable news ratings are down for all the networks after the highs of January 2021, which saw not only the deadly Capitol riot and President Joe Biden’s inauguration, but the second impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump. In January, before “New Day” anchor Alisyn Camerota moved to late mornings and was replaced by current co-anchor Brianna Keilar, the show averaged 1.072 million viewers, with 286,000 in the demo. By comparison, “Fox & Friends” averaged 1.144 million in January, with 213,000 in the demo, and “Morning Joe” averaged 1.689 million, with 289,000 in the demo.

As evidenced above, all three shows have since seen declines, though “New Day” has been hit the hardest.

“New Day” has taken a sharper tone since its most recent relaunch, generating headlines for its critiques of Fox News and Republican lawmakers. On Monday, the program looked at data linking Fox News viewership to vaccine hesitancy, and last week, Keilar dedicated a segment to how “ironic” it was that GOP Sen. Ted Cruz has been criticizing Democratic lawmakers’ COVID-era travel.

https://www.thewrap.com/cnns-new-day-hits-7-year-ratings-low-in-july/

Response to TeslaNova (Original post)

Hekate

(90,537 posts)
18. How, under the circumstances, did Biden do that? Trump & Pompeo made a "deal" to exit May 1...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 03:25 AM
Aug 2021

… and Biden managed to extend it to August 31. Biden and the State Dept have been telling people to get OUT with increasing urgency ever since March.

Furthermore, Trump & Pompeo, making their art of the Mid-East deal into a true clusterfck, arranged for 4,000 Taliban to be released from prison.

In all of this, what did Joe Biden get wrong? It’s becoming clear that most Americans who now remain will be choosing to do so. It is not humanly possible to extract every Afghan who wants to leave, though we are trying. By the time the last American plane and chopper leave this will have been the largest airlift in history.

CNN is not speaking truth to power in this instance, I don’t think.


Skittles

(153,104 posts)
21. really everyone involved - BADLY MISCALCULATED
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 05:21 AM
Aug 2021

INCLUDING Biden - he wasn't really new to this, he was VP for eight of those twenty years, you know, when the can was KICKED DOWN THE ROAD

but-----there should be plenty of blame to go around

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