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GPV

(72,377 posts)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 05:28 AM Aug 2021

"What the 7 stages of severe COVID-19 look like on the front line"

Get vaccinated. If you choose not to, here’s what to expect if you are hospitalized for a serious case of COVID-19.

Stage 1. You’ve had debilitating symptoms for a few days, but now it is so hard to breathe that you come to the emergency room. Your oxygen saturation level tells us you need help, a supplemental flow of 1 to 4 liters of oxygen per minute. We admit you and start you on antivirals, steroids, anticoagulants or monoclonal antibodies. You’ll spend several days in the hospital feeling run-down, but if we can wean you off the oxygen, you’ll get discharged. You survive.

Stage 2. It becomes harder and harder for you to breathe. “Like drowning,” many patients describe the feeling. The bronchodilator treatments we give you provide little relief. Your oxygen requirements increase significantly, from 4 liters to 15 liters to 40 liters per minute. Little things, like relieving yourself or sitting up in bed, become too difficult for you to do on your own. Your oxygen saturation rapidly declines when you move about. We transfer you to the intensive care unit.

Stage 3. You’re exhausted from hyperventilating to satisfy your body’s demand for air. We put you on noninvasive, “positive pressure” ventilation — a big, bulky face mask that must be strapped tightly around your face so the machine can efficiently push pressure into your lungs to pop them open so you get enough of the oxygen it delivers.


https://bangordailynews.com/2021/08/29/opinion/contributors/what-the-7-stages-of-severe-covid-19-look-like-on-the-front-line/
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"What the 7 stages of severe COVID-19 look like on the front line" (Original Post) GPV Aug 2021 OP
That was chilling but incredibly informative. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #1
Yes, it's the best piece I've seen yet on what to expect if you go to the hospital w Covid. GPV Aug 2021 #4
Spoiler alert: Stage 7. It's over! Fritz Walter Aug 2021 #2
A "do not resuscitate order" allows you to skip stages 4, 5, and 6. Klaralven Aug 2021 #8
Good to know, thanks. GPV Aug 2021 #21
I added "do not intubate" central scrutinizer Aug 2021 #26
I'm thinking about it GPV Aug 2021 #33
After my wife died (March 2017) central scrutinizer Aug 2021 #34
I ought to do that for my kids. I have my stuff plus my parents! GPV Aug 2021 #39
That's what happened to my uncle AwakeAtLast Aug 2021 #36
Without modern medical treatments, stage 2 would be death for 50 percent of people hitting it Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #3
Stage 2 almost killed Trump Farmer-Rick Aug 2021 #13
Almost killed him? I know he was in bad shape, but as bad as that? GPV Aug 2021 #24
Yeah, he was one step away from intubation. Farmer-Rick Aug 2021 #31
Whoa! GPV Aug 2021 #32
He was truly blessed, that I was not his doctor. Dan Aug 2021 #35
I imagine a lot of people feel that way GPV Aug 2021 #38
Good point. When people compare Covid to flu in the old days, they rarely consider GPV Aug 2021 #23
Wow! If you're not so stubborn you're willing to read that then shrug your shoulders and say Tadpole Raisin Aug 2021 #5
I like the guy who said ouija Aug 2021 #6
"Being unvaccinated at this point is like running with the bulls in Spain... alterfurz Aug 2021 #19
The stubbornness is hard to fathom GPV Aug 2021 #41
Every stubborn person not getting the vaccine needs to read this article. overleft Aug 2021 #7
I agree GPV Sep 2021 #43
Well, that was horrifying. It is also why I still mask up, wash my hands, and social distance even catbyte Aug 2021 #9
Well said, Cat! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #10
Thanks, SheltieLover. It's like they're a whole different species or something. catbyte Aug 2021 #11
They should not be allowed to break pur healthcare system! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #12
+100000 Pachamama Aug 2021 #16
... SheltieLover Aug 2021 #17
me too XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #29
The medical workers are truly heroes Alice Kramden Aug 2021 #14
A must read for all those trying to decide whether to vaccinate and mask up... Pachamama Aug 2021 #15
You said it... Blue Owl Aug 2021 #22
I wonder why I never hear about special air mattresses to keep nurses from having to turn patients? rainin Aug 2021 #18
They have mattresses that do inflate from side to side to aid turning Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #20
Kick dalton99a Aug 2021 #25
That should be required reading for the anti-vaxxers. Vinca Aug 2021 #27
K&R MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #28
That is terrifying. N/t LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #30
it boggles my mind that ANYONE wold gamble with this Skittles Aug 2021 #37
Here's another article on the same subject Larissa Aug 2021 #40
As a COPD patient, I've gotten to stage 3 several times A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #42

ShazzieB

(16,359 posts)
1. That was chilling but incredibly informative.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:08 AM
Aug 2021

I never knew all that stuff about the different stages. I can't imagine how hard it is to take care of these patients and watch them die, one after another, despite all your best efforts.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
2. Spoiler alert: Stage 7. It's over!
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:11 AM
Aug 2021
Stage 7: After several meetings with the palliative care team, your family decides to withdraw care. We extubate you, turning off the breathing machinery. We set up a final FaceTime call with your loved ones. As we work in your room, we hear crying and loving goodbyes. We cry, too, and we hold your hand until your last natural breath.




This should be required reading for all anti-vaxers and anti-maskers!

central scrutinizer

(11,646 posts)
26. I added "do not intubate"
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 03:37 PM
Aug 2021

To my advanced directive. Pump me full of morphine, wheel me out of the way, let me go.

central scrutinizer

(11,646 posts)
34. After my wife died (March 2017)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 05:31 PM
Aug 2021

I’ve realized how many loose ends remain for the family. I’m trying to declutter and sell my house while I’m still lucid and pass all the assets on to our daughter. Then walk off into bear country wearing a bacon bathrobe.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
3. Without modern medical treatments, stage 2 would be death for 50 percent of people hitting it
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:12 AM
Aug 2021

They didn't have positive pressure ventilators in 1919. Or even oxygen flow, stage 1, although it had been used in some experimental treatments by then. It wasn't until 1909 that rubber tubing was invented and not until the 1920s that oxygen tents came in use. Masks were developed for use after that.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
13. Stage 2 almost killed Trump
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:24 AM
Aug 2021

We know he had this problem. "the machine can efficiently push pressure into your lungs to pop them open so you get enough of the oxygen it delivers."

Imagine your lungs so sticky that they can't open up for you to breath. I hope Trump enjoyed the Covid-19. I think he has lingering medical problems from it because he always looks swollen and puffy eyed anymore. Prosecutors better hurry and put him in jail before he dies.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
31. Yeah, he was one step away from intubation.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 05:13 PM
Aug 2021
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/02/11/covid-trump-was-sicker-from-coronavirus-than-first-said.html

He was on oxygen. He almost died if not for all the experimental drugs he was given. He got aborted fetal stem cell developed antibody treatments. Lucky he was president when he caught Covid-19.

Dan

(3,545 posts)
35. He was truly blessed, that I was not his doctor.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:04 PM
Aug 2021

Cause I would have gave him bleach and stuck a LED light up his ass., prayed for him and let God do the rest.

GPV

(72,377 posts)
23. Good point. When people compare Covid to flu in the old days, they rarely consider
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:04 PM
Aug 2021

the medical advances made.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
5. Wow! If you're not so stubborn you're willing to read that then shrug your shoulders and say
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:45 AM
Aug 2021

It won’t happen to you, well you deserve to actually experience it. As I and others have said on this board, if you’ve ever experienced not being able to breathe for even a tiny amount of time you never forget it and never want to feel that way again EVER!

Great post!

ouija

(397 posts)
6. I like the guy who said
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:48 AM
Aug 2021

If you refuse the vaccine then don’t go to the hospital and ride it out at home.

alterfurz

(2,474 posts)
19. "Being unvaccinated at this point is like running with the bulls in Spain...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:09 AM
Aug 2021

...if you get a horn up your ass--that's on you." -- Wanda Sykes

catbyte

(34,367 posts)
9. Well, that was horrifying. It is also why I still mask up, wash my hands, and social distance even
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:24 AM
Aug 2021

though I've been fully vaccinated since March. It sounds like it's one of the worst ways to die. I can't imagine what is going through the heads of those willfully ignorant idiots who refuse to take any measures to mitigate this horrific disease.

catbyte

(34,367 posts)
11. Thanks, SheltieLover. It's like they're a whole different species or something.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:49 AM
Aug 2021

I don't know if it's fear, arrogance, or ignorance--probably a combination of all three. What really angers me is they bloviate about how Covid is "no worse than a cold or flu" yet when they catch it, they expect world-class medical care. It's infuriating and so unfair to overworked medical professionals. I still say they should all be forced to print this out and carry it with them always:



Have a great, safe Sunday, my friend!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
12. They should not be allowed to break pur healthcare system!
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:54 AM
Aug 2021

And, if it were me, I have that tattooed on every one of their foreheads!

It's beyond belief what these anti-vax maskholes have done & continue to do!

Stay safe, Cat! 😷

Blue Owl

(50,347 posts)
22. You said it...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:51 PM
Aug 2021

If something like this doesn't make them come to their senses -- then nothing will.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
18. I wonder why I never hear about special air mattresses to keep nurses from having to turn patients?
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 10:49 AM
Aug 2021

Do they exist? If not, why? I have a compression device for my lymphedema that wraps around the body while a compressor forces air through the wrap in a rhythmic motion. I would think a mattress could be designed to rhythmically inflate and deflate small cells to allow for blood circulation.

Seeing videos of these nurses turning 'limp' patients is heartbreaking. Does such a mattress exist? I wonder why.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
20. They have mattresses that do inflate from side to side to aid turning
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:02 PM
Aug 2021

and hospital beds that also turn from side to side. It just depends on the facility and what's available. But nurses still have to roll patients to check their backsides, change bedding and pads, relieve pressure points, wash, etc.

Larissa

(790 posts)
40. Here's another article on the same subject
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 12:10 AM
Aug 2021

It, too, has got me thinking hard about the living will issue. Every man and woman in this country should read these articles.

What it's Like to Die from Covid-19

https://www.vox.com/2021/2/20/22280817/covid-19-deaths-us-nursing-home-icu-ventilator

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
42. As a COPD patient, I've gotten to stage 3 several times
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:40 AM
Aug 2021

But luckily was never intubated.

It’s horrible. And scary as hell.

35 years averaging a pack a day did a hell of a number on my lungs and I started having severe COPD episodes about 9 years ago. I had to call an ambulance on myself 4 times and averaged a severe episode requiring hospitalization every 6 months. I took myself to the ER numerous times.

My last episode in April of 2018 was the worst and I thought I had truly screwed the pooch. I was usually out in 3 or 4 days but that one kept me in for 7. I did think I was going to die for a time.

It felt like a screw style hose clamp was around my lungs, and every few hours another turn or two was made, tightening the clamp.

I haven’t had a cigarette since that spring 3 years ago (April 13, to be exact) and have not had an episode since, except I had one very mild episode a year ago March which scared the shit out of me because that’s just when COVID 19 was gaining it’s foothold in the US.

So I can relate. You’re basically drowning in your own secretions. It’s terrifying.

I’m good though. 2nd Pfizer shot was in late April and I’m fine.

But I would not wish a severe respiratory illness on anyone.

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