Many vax lax still don't get the risk of transmitting to others and being seen as schmucks for life

[gulliver]

I don't know what the percentage is, but there's probably a very high percentage of the vax lax who think they are only taking a personal risk. They just plain don't know they're creating a risk for others and, therefore, greatly risking shame, guilt, and their reputations. I hear it all the time when vax laxers are interviewed. "If it's my time to go, then so be it."

I never hear a vaccine supporter or reporter respond to the vax laxer, "You may not care about getting sick or dying, but you're going to feel pretty rotten when everyone you know figures out that you got someone everybody loves sick and they died. Unvaccinated, you're actually a burden to everyone around you, not a hero."

Plain language. Repeated. Risk of shame, guilt, and social shunning for you and your whole family. Burden to others.

You can't just say, "You're putting others at risk." That's weak sauce. People resent being made to feel guilty and won't listen. You have to point out that the vaccine doesn't just protect them from COVID. It protects them from living their whole lives being known as the schmuck who screwed up and gave COVID to the family's beloved Aunt Myrtle.

[MLAA]

1. I don't hold back.

While in Florida for three weeks helping my seriously ill dad I used the following:

On covidiot Brother who lived 4 hrs from Dad when asked how could he help: if you ever want to see your dad alive or go to his funeral get a fucking vaccine.

On covidiot brother after I arrived at Dad’s after 36 hrs flying from AZ (bad weather in Dallas) when he told me to be sure and get some rest: I’m not worried about getting rest, I’m worried about catching covid here in covidiot Florida and taking it home to kill my sweet health compromised husband. That finally did it and he got vaccinated.

On Physical Therapist and a couple nurses in Hospital and rehab: why do you want to kill my dad and other patients you are suppose to be healing? Why would you put your entire family at risk? Don’t you know that Florida hospitals are full? Don’t you know the Delta strain is far more contagious? Don’t you know unvaccinated are 25 times more likely to end up in ICU and dead? Why would you take health advice from Fox and Facebook? Why don’t you ask your doctor? I pulled no punches and asked unvaccinated to leave dad’s room.

[Ms. Toad]

2. It's not just vax lax.

Vaccinated individuals are also lax about the risk of getting it and transmitting it to others.

My employee and I were exposed 3 times before the start of classes - two of them were by people who were vaccinated and caught it anyway.

Just canceled an appointment to have my hair cut yesterday because, even though my daughter's classmate is vaccinated and wears a mask when she cuts my hair - she doesn't when she cuts others' hair. She was exposed by one of her customers. At least she has the decency to call me, rather than expose me.

But - repeatedly - in the run-up to starting school I was told by members of a group that considers themselves too special to have to follow the mask rules (one of whom exposed me in the process), "I'm fully vaccinated - what are they going to do, kick me out?"

Vaccinated individual need to hear the same message, just as bluntly. I gave it to my students the first day of the pre-class program: See this (holding up my right arm with a gnarly looking skin graft from December surgery for a very aggressive cancer) - this is a very aggressive cancer. It likes to metastasize. When it metastasizes, its target is the lungs - the same target that COVID attacks. You don't want to be the one who gives me COVID so that I have to fight metastasis and COVID simultaneously.

Vaccinated individuals are more likely than unvaccinated to have asymptomatic or mild cases, and - especially because they believe themselves to be immune from COVID - to go on about life without testing - spreading the disease to others. The viral load in a vaccinated person is identical to the viral load in an unvaccinated person for the first 5 days, so they are every bit as likely to spread COVID in those first 5 days of infection - whether they believe they have an infection or not.

[LakeArenal]

3. It's in the label. "Schmuck for Life"

They come already labeled.

[KT2000]

4. You are correct

had an extensive conversation with a - it is my choice. She did not even comprehend the - it is about others too - point of view. I am afraid this is the same for many anti-vaxxers. They will never admit their culpability.

[iemanja]

5. No, they don't care

Even after getting sick, they go around transmitting it to others, even family. They are selfish assholes.