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Eric Clapton releases song seen as criticising official response to Covid
Eric Clapton, a staunch critic of measures designed to tackle the Covid pandemic, has released a song entitled This Has Gotta Stop.
While the song does not directly mention lockdown measures or vaccines, the musician has performed on anti-vaccine songs in recent months. His latest offering has been interpreted by some as an attack on the measures recommended by health officials.
I cant take this BS any longer, Its gone far enough, You want to claim my soul, youll have to come and break down this door, Clapton sings. Other lyrics include: I knew that something was going on wrong, When you started laying down the law, I cant move my hands, I break out in sweat.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/aug/29/eric-clapton-releases-song-seen-as-criticising-official-response-to-covid
And just for the record I have allergic reactions to codeine...didn't know about it until I had a heart attack...
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)Clearly he cares little about the safety of others. Now I turn the station when Clapton or Van Morrison come on.
turbinetree
(24,631 posts)underpants
(182,271 posts)No when that song was everywhere and I heard that story (I was a parent yet) I had the Hold it. How the hell did THAT happen? but couldnt dare say so out loud.
Van Morrison is worth $80Million but was pissed because he had to put off touring.
Correction $90M
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/van-morrison-net-worth/
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)...happened when the child was with the mother, not Eric.
I'm very disappointed in his devolution to cranky old man, science denier.
But, his son's death had nothing to do with him.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)you are both still responsible for basic child safety measures. 4 year olds are little monkeys. That being said, I would have never even brought it up, but Clapton's laissez-faire attitude has clearly not improved in the slightest when the health and well being of others are concerned.
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)But, we don't know that he didn't say something. I hold the mom much more responsible because the child was directly in her charge.
Because we aren't privy to what conversations were had regarding child safety, I can only judge based upon what we know for sure happened.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)a serious danger to the public health.
BoycottTimHortons
(34 posts)How he monetized the loss of his child (who he wasnt a present father to) with a song he didnt primarily write, that wasnt even originally supposed to be about his son until he spotted the opportunity to ride the bereaved father image into the bank. He is a shameless narcissist.
IbogaProject
(2,692 posts)Wasn't his racist comments in the 1970s the direct precedent for the formation of the anti-racist Rock Against Racism?
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)GReedDiamond
(5,299 posts)underpants
(182,271 posts)Clapton continuing to take home the top prize for dumbest ck on this planet," she wrote. "This is the man who wants you to go outside while he sits all safe in his mansion with the best doctors available to him."
Jamil shared a screengrab of a transcript of the moment an "extremely drunk" Clapton asked "foreigners" at a 1976 show to raise their hands before suggesting they "should all leave."
"Not just leave the hall, leave our country... I don't want you here, in the room or in my country," he said in part.
"The Black ws and cs and Arabs and fing Jamaicans don't belong here, we don't want them here," Clapton added on stage then, using blatant racist slurs. "This is England, this is a white country, we don't want any Black ws and cs living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome."
The rant went on as he called England "a white country" made "for white people."
https://people.com/music/eric-clapton-racist-rant-resurfaces-after-lockdown-protest-song-van-morrison/
treestar
(82,383 posts)I suppose he'd do this whining either way
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)He was born in Surrey England to a single mother and was raised by his grandparents.
Morrison, who's even worse about this issue than Clapton, is Irish, though.
I know a whole lot about him because I was a fan for 50 years.
He's greatly disappointed me with this blather.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #25)
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Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)to think if it as beautiful again, when such an ingrate wrote it.
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)Google shows him as a Northern Irish singer, before I even hit "go".
I didn't recall him being from Northern Ireland.
NewHendoLib
(59,940 posts)skylucy
(3,734 posts)married to both George Harrison and Eric Clapton. Clapton came across as a real asshole.
I've read that book, and his autobiography too. He came off as an asshole in both.
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)I didn't care for it.
Very slow read.
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)I'll never understand his popularity - fake ass bluesman.
underpants
(182,271 posts)Old Gods Almost Dead: The 40-Year Odyssey of the Rolling Stones
Book by Stephen Davis
The first night all the original members of the Stones were in the same room was March 17, 1961 or 62
There was a club that started hosting a rock n roll night on an off night Tuesdays I think.
The owner only let certain people on stage.
Charlie had been recruited as the best local drummer - jazz drummer. He really wasnt interested in rock.
Bill Weyman (not his real name) was on stage because he had money from being in the Air Force and had good gear.
Brian Jones was on stage because he was Brian Jones.
Mick and Keef took a train to check it out.
Clapton was on stage as a singer. He didnt play guitar yet.
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)they were good too.
But most of his work post 1972 bored me.
'Cocaine' - played to death
'I shot the Sheriff' - meh
etc. etc.
underpants
(182,271 posts)The extended stuff isnt for me.
Sorry I just dont get reggae. There was one act.
Singing songs about drugs. Okay.
He couldnt go on stage for years because he didnt think he could live up to his GOD status.
Cream was just a force. Jack and Ginger were up there in rhythm sections.
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)then I was hooked. Sadly, All my faves are gone or dropping like flies. Lee "Scratch" Perry died today. The world wouldn't have known Bob Marley without him.
thucythucy
(7,983 posts)that is one of my all time favorites. "Is This Love" especially--I love that guitar riff.
If you haven't heard it I highly recommend it.
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:19 AM - Edit history (1)
Have you seen this?
I would have loved to been there.
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)He doesn't even claim he's a blues player. He admits to being blues rock.
Blues music is not a sophisticated form, so everything is about personal interpretation & style.
Interpretation can't be fake, and style is subjective, but his playing doesn't closely mirror anything that came prior.
Liking his later stuff or not, is a matter of taste. There were later things I didn't care for. I thought "Tears In Heaven" was a treacly piece of crap. But, it was a big hit. Go figure!
But, I don't understand what "fake ass bluesman" even means.
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)I don't know him, don't care about his opinion.
But, if he doesn't define fake, than I can presume he knows nothing about the subject.
If you don't think he's a good musician, I question your ear. He has a unique style & is legendarily smooth. Being smooth on guitar is a difficult thing to achieve. Yes, he's too reliant on pure pentatonic forms, but his playing is melodic & highly musical.
It took me 20 years to learn smooth, although my playing is more harmonically diverse & I'm a lot faster. But, I learned fast way easier than smooth.
As to him being a good person, there's nothing about that to disagree.
He's acting like an ass.
misanthrope
(7,405 posts)was this:
retread
(3,752 posts)He Killed God, Man! He Killed Clapton! was the collective cry of disbelief when Jimi Hendrix plugged his Fender Stratocaster into a nearby bass amp one night while jamming with Eric Claptons Cream and proceeded to shred his way through Killing Floor a song Clapton loved but had previously written off as being too difficult.
"Hendrix performed all sorts of theatrics that became his claim to fame; divebombs, playing with his teeth, playing behind his head and all the while, never missing a note! Who on earth besides Jimi Hendrix would have the sheer audacity to get up there and not only take over Creams set, but completely annihilate Clapton the Guitar God?"
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)we can do it
(12,116 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,103 posts)going back to the 60s. I have read many books about the stars of that era, some by the stars themselves. Sadly, the more you read about them, the more you realize some of them, regardless of their musical talent, are despicable human beings.
Frankly, though, if I had been thrust into their position at a young age I'm not all that sure how I would have acted either.
Eko
(7,170 posts)LakeArenal
(28,713 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,261 posts)But it is now clear to me he is a shitty person
oasis
(49,150 posts)StarryNite
(9,363 posts)edbermac
(15,919 posts)Go figure.