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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:19 PM Aug 2021

New COVID variant detected in South Africa, most mutated variant so far

A new coronavirus variant, C.1.2, has been detected in South Africa and a number of other countries, with concerns that
it could be more infectious and evade vaccines, according to a new preprint study by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform.

Scientists first detected C.1.2 in May 2021, finding that it was descended from C.1, which scientists found surprising as C.1 had last been detected in January. The new variant has "mutated substantially" compared to C.1 and is more mutations away from the original virus detected in Wuhan than any other Variant of Concern (VOC) or Variant of Interest (VOI) detected so far worldwide.

The study also found that the C.1.2 lineage has a mutation rate of about 41.8 mutations per year, which is nearly twice as fast as the current global mutation rate of the other variants.

While first detected in South Africa, C.1.2 has since been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland.

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/new-covid-variant-detected-in-south-africa-most-mutated-variant-so-far-678011

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New COVID variant detected in South Africa, most mutated variant so far (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 OP
This is troubling that it was found in New Zealand despite the tight controls there. LonePirate Aug 2021 #1
I hope they're working on more vaccines and treatments... I just can't even wrap my head around PortTack Aug 2021 #2
You Know They Are. COL Mustard Aug 2021 #4
Thx ..needed a hopeful comment. PortTack Aug 2021 #15
JFC. COL Mustard Aug 2021 #3
What ever happened to that other variant... lambda or something IcyPeas Aug 2021 #5
I think I read that it couldn't compete with Delta, so it did fade away. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #8
Lambda has not 'faded away' just yet Celerity Aug 2021 #21
COVID-19 wants to survive . . . .. Lovie777 Aug 2021 #6
I'm so tired BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #7
I wonder. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #10
Just like the plague inc game vercetti2021 Aug 2021 #9
Like Captain Trips in the Stand. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #12
If the spike is the same, Corgigal Aug 2021 #11
And what if it's not? n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2021 #13
The labs Corgigal Aug 2021 #17
Oh, my dear Corgigal--How much I hope you're right. This has to end. ♥ CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2021 #18
Yes, you gotta hand it to the freedum loving people... Dan Aug 2021 #14
Or they'll fade as they won't get moonscape Aug 2021 #20
If this were a disaster movie, I would say the script is totally implausible. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #16
That's where I was in March of 2020... Hugin Aug 2021 #19
I keep thinking about March 2020. Friends kept saying it would all be over by June. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #22

LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
1. This is troubling that it was found in New Zealand despite the tight controls there.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:26 PM
Aug 2021

Delta may be child's play compared to this one.

PortTack

(32,750 posts)
2. I hope they're working on more vaccines and treatments... I just can't even wrap my head around
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:27 PM
Aug 2021

Just how dangerous this is

Lovie777

(12,226 posts)
6. COVID-19 wants to survive . . . ..
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:31 PM
Aug 2021

We must keep diligent and hopefully the medical/science divisions come up an ass kicking solution.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
9. Just like the plague inc game
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:35 PM
Aug 2021

It mutates constantly from DNA structure changes. Eventually it'll becoming more fatal.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
17. The labs
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:45 AM
Aug 2021

will get us a new vaccine. We got to sit tight again,.

Let’s us hope the unvaccinated get the shots, so we can all move on.

Dan

(3,542 posts)
14. Yes, you gotta hand it to the freedum loving people...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:48 PM
Aug 2021

in the end, they're going to kill us all OR as many as they can.

And then, maybe one day, they'll say "I'm sorry, I was just getting the libs (or whatever the tale will be)..".

Oh, I forgot, and if we survive this - their memories will fade and they'll share "...it wasn't me, I always believed in science".

Irish_Dem

(46,793 posts)
16. If this were a disaster movie, I would say the script is totally implausible.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:34 PM
Aug 2021

I would have assumed that medical science would be able to defeat the virus.
And that the public would be quite cooperative.

Hugin

(33,112 posts)
19. That's where I was in March of 2020...
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:09 AM
Aug 2021

So naïve.

I still absolutely believe in your first assumption. We've seen the successes in the form of wonderful vaccines.

However, I've done a complete 180 about face on your second. I still do think the majority of people are being cooperative, but, the loud people are doing everything they can to screw it up. Solely because they can't face being wrong.

Irish_Dem

(46,793 posts)
22. I keep thinking about March 2020. Friends kept saying it would all be over by June.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 07:04 AM
Aug 2021

I was a bit more cautious, and silly me thought maybe the Fall.

Yes I think eventually the virus will come under control. I assumed the vaccine would take care of things by now. Did not foresee the variations. And I assumed we would have found successful treatments fairly quickly. I was so naive.

I knew early on that there were some people who thought the virus was a hoax, but I assumed they would change their minds one they saw the deaths all around them. Again how naive.

I agree, I think stubbornness is a part of it. Also if they admit the virus is real, they would have to face all the other lies they are telling themselves about white supremacy, the GOP version of reality, all of it. They are entitled and paranoid.

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