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applegrove

(118,492 posts)
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:37 PM Aug 2021

The run on ivermectin shows that the GOP base is really scared. They

Last edited Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:43 PM - Edit history (3)

are just blocked from taking other measures, measures that in fact work like masks and the vaccine, by some mental block/loyalty to their tv hosts/politicians. How sick is that. Their tv and podcast hosts, and right wing politicians, are not loyal to them and their health.

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Edited to add:

Look at Rand Paul soldering the conspiracy theory in place:

"SNIP....

Rand Paul: 'Hatred for Trump' blocking research into ivermectin as COVID-19 treatment

https://thehill.com/homenews/569975-rand-paul-hatred-for-trump-blocking-research-into-ivermectin

BY DOMINICK MASTRANGELO at the Hill

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) suggested researchers are not pursuing ivermectin as a possible COVID-19 treatment because of their disdain for former President Trump.

"The hatred for Trump deranged these people so much, that they're unwilling to objectively study it," Paul told dozens of constituents at a meeting in a suburb just south of Cincinnati on Friday, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported. 

"So someone like me that's in the middle on it, I can't tell you because they will not study ivermectin," the senator added. "They will not study hydroxychloroquine without the taint of their hatred for Donald Trump."

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned Americans last week not to take ivermectin, a drug sometimes used to treat parasitic worm infections in humans and livestock.


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The run on ivermectin shows that the GOP base is really scared. They (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2021 OP
The cult of sadism dalton99a Aug 2021 #1
Invermectin treats hoaxes really well. lunatica Aug 2021 #2
Very true! C Moon Aug 2021 #26
Scared? I think it shows how stupid they are. Sanity Claws Aug 2021 #3
They seem to make a big deal that the CDC keeps changing their advice on the best ways to fight the OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #6
I'm going to point out that many are biblical literalists. plimsoll Aug 2021 #21
"biblical inerrancy" OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #31
Admitting they're wrong Metaphorical Aug 2021 #9
+1 nt NutmegYankee Aug 2021 #27
Admitting you are wrong I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2021 #28
Statement by unknown person ... aggiesal Aug 2021 #30
It seems likely. I hope more are slipping into pharmacies, Hortensis Aug 2021 #4
Lots of Republicans I know are vaccinated. womanofthehills Aug 2021 #5
And if Trump hadn't been vaccinated would they be refusing it? hadEnuf Aug 2021 #18
This line of attack is just for the ignorant part of the base. Baked Potato Aug 2021 #7
If media would just not cover these idiots they would die away quietly. LakeArenal Aug 2021 #8
Those idiots should be concerned about counterfeit Ivermectin. Made in NCjack Aug 2021 #10
Might be safer than the real thing, soldierant Aug 2021 #23
Agreed...this was my thinking too reading through their insane Ivermectin Facebook groups greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #11
Free clue for Republicans: Don't listen to liars Champp Aug 2021 #12
Cult endgame? Just look up Jonestown. paleotn Aug 2021 #13
What alarms me bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #14
Actually, they think their jusgment is way better than perfectly normal soldierant Aug 2021 #24
It's disgusting they encourage their voters to reject American institutions IronLionZion Aug 2021 #15
We have some DUers promoting it too. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #16
More morgue trail's please! loyalty to one person will get you dead ! oh well. "BYE " monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #17
Most of their tv hosts/politicians have gotten the vaccine. Scalded Nun Aug 2021 #19
The Great Anti-Vaxxer Die-Off Initech Aug 2021 #20
They are so thoroughly invested in their rw media that taking the vaccine would be traitorous in Pepsidog Aug 2021 #22
But liberals are sheep. SergeStorms Aug 2021 #25
Both were studied, though. Johonny Aug 2021 #29
Ivermectin is used to prevent heartworm in dogs, Progressive dog Aug 2021 #32

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
1. The cult of sadism
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:45 PM
Aug 2021

The leaders - Trump family & staff, GOP governors and congresscritters - took the vaccine, but they want their cult members to suffer and die in ignorance.


lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. Invermectin treats hoaxes really well.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:48 PM
Aug 2021

If they think COVID is just made up by Bill Gates or something why are they taking Invermectin? Why take any medicine?

Sanity Claws

(21,840 posts)
3. Scared? I think it shows how stupid they are.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:48 PM
Aug 2021

They all seem incapable of admitting that they were wrong when they chose to follow Trumpty and his claim that COVID is a hoax, etc.
Instead of admitting error, they keep going down further the same route -- you know, they're lying to us, blah-blah.

This reminds me Bush jr. who kept talking about Stay the Course. This seems to be the same thing. They can never admit error.

Their personal lives must be so screwed up since they can never admit error.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,287 posts)
6. They seem to make a big deal that the CDC keeps changing their advice on the best ways to fight the
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:01 PM
Aug 2021

virus spread. Like, yeah, when the facts change or the science becomes clearer....the CDC should be updating their recommendations. Seems like our side follows the best advice wrt to the science and understands that this advice will change as we learn more. They have a real problem with change...of any kind.

plimsoll

(1,667 posts)
21. I'm going to point out that many are biblical literalists.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:23 PM
Aug 2021

They talk about biblical inerrancy. Things must never change. They're inflexible.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,287 posts)
31. "biblical inerrancy"
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:39 PM
Aug 2021

What does that even mean in our present Godless environment. Looking at you Evangelicals- You pious, totally full of shit, religious .hypocrites.

You just want to control the 65% that don't look like you.

Metaphorical

(1,601 posts)
9. Admitting they're wrong
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:24 PM
Aug 2021

I don't think it's a matter of stupidity (though these are not the brightest people in the world). I've noticed that most Republicans are strongly extroverted - they are very conscious of their in-crowd, and one of the lessons that is drilled into them from childhood is "never admit that they're wrong" - to their spouse, to their boss, to their friends, to their social peers, and most importantly to themselves. It's part of the reason that divorces are so common among social conservatives especially. In this mindset, the worst thing that can happen is for a person to lose face.

I've long had my suspicion that many people who vote Democratic have been ostracized socially at one point or another in their lives, and have learned some hard but valuable lessons as a consequence. Republicans, not so much.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
28. Admitting you are wrong
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:42 PM
Aug 2021

Is a thing narcissists cannot do. That and take responsibility for anything they say or do..

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. It seems likely. I hope more are slipping into pharmacies,
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:53 PM
Aug 2021

surreptitiously in the next town if need be, to get vaccinated instead.

Like their parents who got scared right out of the gate and vaccinated as soon as they could be. That was early days, before their kids became so mind-fucked that they can't claim risk of death as a valid excuse for betraying the cause.

hadEnuf

(2,175 posts)
18. And if Trump hadn't been vaccinated would they be refusing it?
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:13 PM
Aug 2021

It's sad that some people base their healthcare decisions on the actions of a cartoon character.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
7. This line of attack is just for the ignorant part of the base.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:05 PM
Aug 2021

The rest of them have taken the vaccine. They really need the less “informed” badly, to win.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
10. Those idiots should be concerned about counterfeit Ivermectin. Made in
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:26 PM
Aug 2021

home shops of such stuff as dried paint flakes, dirt, sawdust, etc.

soldierant

(6,791 posts)
23. Might be safer than the real thing,
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:26 PM
Aug 2021

which is a neurooxin.

The most poisonous of poisonous snakes' vemon works as neurotoxins.

For comparison, rattlesnakes have haemotoxic venom, which acts more slowly and is easier to treat.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
11. Agreed...this was my thinking too reading through their insane Ivermectin Facebook groups
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:28 PM
Aug 2021

They are very much worried about the virus. They just live in an alternate universe where the vaccine and masks are as harmful as the virus. It's actually quite sad. They're trying "everything," and have developed a whole discourse around various "protocols." The detail and futility of it are disturbing, and will be studied by social scientists and psychologists for years to come. The closest thing I have seen to this is the "self-treatments" that developed around HIV/AIDS in the mid-late 80's. Of course, there was no vaccine, so that's what makes the conservative Ivermectin in-group self-treatments so very, very weird.

soldierant

(6,791 posts)
24. Actually, they think their jusgment is way better than perfectly normal
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:28 PM
Aug 2021

They think it is excellent.

People with only perfectly normal judgment can't possibly protect themselves as well as they (MAGAts) do. They think.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
15. It's disgusting they encourage their voters to reject American institutions
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 04:48 PM
Aug 2021

Sowing distrust of CDC, NIH, etc. is dangerous to America's public health.

It's not comparable to some of our criticisms of ICE or TSA, which are 2 agencies I don't trust.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
22. They are so thoroughly invested in their rw media that taking the vaccine would be traitorous in
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:25 PM
Aug 2021

their minds.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
25. But liberals are sheep.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:32 PM
Aug 2021
Everytime they say that, the stupid oozes from every pore of their body. Now one of them is reading this and saying, "dumb shit can't spell 'pour'."

Progressive dog

(6,899 posts)
32. Ivermectin is used to prevent heartworm in dogs,
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:35 AM
Aug 2021

and it comes in meat flavored treats for them.
Of course, when there are several highly effective vaccines readily available, only someone as dangerous as Rand Paul would continue to promote snake oil cures.

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