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JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:16 PM Aug 2021

Richard Engel starts by saying he isn't going to get into the blame game, and then proceeds

to blame trump and Biden

Saying no Americans were killed for two years until the evacuation, is a grossly unfair assessment

Saying that the Afghans didn’t believe it would happen when trump made the deal, and didn’t believe it when Biden implemented it

This morning Lucas Kunce a retired marine major running for Senate as a Democrat in Missouri on Bloomberg who fought in both Afghanistan and Iraq is against extending the deadline

He points out the same people calling for an extension are the same people who kept us there twenty years

They are people who staked their reputations on Afghanistan, got huge political donations, and were making a lot of money on Afghanistan

He said when I hear people say just one more month, one more year, he thinks one more marine, and I am sorry, you had your 20 years, 2500 American service members, and your 2.3 trillion dollars to build something up, and instead what you built up collapsed in just two weeks

and he went on to say anyone who served in Afghanistan like myself, could tell you they saw the Taliban taking over was inevitable



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Richard Engel starts by saying he isn't going to get into the blame game, and then proceeds (Original Post) JohnSJ Aug 2021 OP
Fuck him. Turned him off. nt DURHAM D Aug 2021 #1
For some not going to take a political position he sure did JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2
He is overwrought with emotion. He is supreme cherry picker of facts. The draw down began Ninga Aug 2021 #3
No doubt JohnSJ Aug 2021 #12
+1. Engel is a lying asshole dalton99a Aug 2021 #27
I used to think highly of him montanacowboy Aug 2021 #4
Same here. 2naSalit Aug 2021 #7
his meal ticket has been cancelled. he must be sad nt msongs Aug 2021 #5
All those hit dogs hollering... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #8
Lost all interest in anything Engel has to say... Satch59 Aug 2021 #6
Afghanistan made Richard Engel... he can't let it go budkin Aug 2021 #9
Yeah, well. I'm finding it very easy to let Richard Engel go. (nt) Paladin Aug 2021 #10
He needs to check into rehab, Corgigal Aug 2021 #23
Yep. Addicted to the blood and drama of war. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #26
He's welcome to stay NCDem47 Aug 2021 #11
Richard Engel unemployed now I guess. Glad he didn't get killed. Health and Happiness Richard Engel. IA8IT Aug 2021 #13
I blame Richard Engel and all the others that glorified this pointless war for 20 yrs Johonny Aug 2021 #14
I'm surprised he'd say that BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #15
I suspect it was an emotional experience for him, and his Afghan friends were left behind which JohnSJ Aug 2021 #16
Oh I'm sure he is very emotional. BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #24
Absolutely JohnSJ Aug 2021 #25
K&R UTUSN Aug 2021 #17
He's been a spokesmodel for the war. JaneQPublic Aug 2021 #18
He is now in Qatar. madaboutharry Aug 2021 #19
LOL. True! NT emmaverybo Aug 2021 #20
He has totally lost any objectivity. He has lost journalistic integrity. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #28
Drink lots of fluids and take a multi vitamin Dick. You're suffering a serotonin crash. Comfortably_Numb Aug 2021 #21
He's mad that he's losing his cash cow Dopers_Greed Aug 2021 #22

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
3. He is overwrought with emotion. He is supreme cherry picker of facts. The draw down began
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:19 PM
Aug 2021

in April 2021 with the military flying out 60 plus plane loads of military equipment. It was not a last minute surprise as Engle asserts.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215800416

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
8. All those hit dogs hollering...
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:30 PM
Aug 2021

Such a cacophony on the news these days, all over the death of their cash cow.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
6. Lost all interest in anything Engel has to say...
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:25 PM
Aug 2021

He’s been so biased. The military evacuated over 120k people, mostly Afghan families looking for a better life. This war was lost long ago. I do believe this will be looked on as a successful operation, the evacuation.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
23. He needs to check into rehab,
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:00 PM
Aug 2021

because he’s got a disease.

He could have walked the walk and join the active duty forces, for non NBC pay. Yeah, didn’t think so.

IA8IT

(5,554 posts)
13. Richard Engel unemployed now I guess. Glad he didn't get killed. Health and Happiness Richard Engel.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 05:57 PM
Aug 2021

P.S. GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE!! go have brunch, find someone to love

Johonny

(20,828 posts)
14. I blame Richard Engel and all the others that glorified this pointless war for 20 yrs
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 06:00 PM
Aug 2021

Fuck that guy.

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
15. I'm surprised he'd say that
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 06:20 PM
Aug 2021

I’ve read so much from his fans about his expertise, surely he wasn’t naive enough to expect an exit during an active civil war to not involve the potential for bloodshed? Maybe he is like Johnny Bravo, and he’s just there because he fits the suit.

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
16. I suspect it was an emotional experience for him, and his Afghan friends were left behind which
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 06:26 PM
Aug 2021

molded his view

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
24. Oh I'm sure he is very emotional.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:32 PM
Aug 2021

The editorializing shows that. Doesn’t make what he’s saying about Biden fair or accurate though.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
18. He's been a spokesmodel for the war.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 06:52 PM
Aug 2021

His reports made a pointless, mistake of a war look important and exciting and oh so worth American blood and treasure.

madaboutharry

(40,201 posts)
19. He is now in Qatar.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 07:35 PM
Aug 2021

Listening to him give his uninterrupted 5 minute speech on Deadline White House one might think he had an emotional attachment to this war in Afghanistan, or maybe an emotional attachment to someone.

It was that out of bounds for journalism.

In my opinion, Engle needs counseling.

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