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Tweet of the Day (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2021 OP
I stop following the coverage Farmer-Rick Aug 2021 #1
I agree! xxqqqzme Aug 2021 #14
#Turnthechannel when the media begins its unwarranted criticisms.... samnsara Aug 2021 #2
The most obscene version of bothsiderism is when the media attempts to manufacture failure... MrModerate Aug 2021 #3
Bothsiderism exists because of a misunderstanding of the word "fair" soldierant Aug 2021 #22
Well said. nt crickets Aug 2021 #26
Thank you. soldierant Sep 2021 #40
oh geez, now they have to go on about "losing" the war? treestar Aug 2021 #4
We won the "war" PhylliPretzel Aug 2021 #10
Bingo Moebym Aug 2021 #20
👆👆 crickets Aug 2021 #27
James Carville nails it. spanone Aug 2021 #5
K & R...for truth...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #6
Well I have Rebl2 Aug 2021 #7
I turned off Rachel last night leftieNanner Aug 2021 #8
That's refreshing to read! Kittycow Aug 2021 #9
Media is trying to win back Trump supporters IronLionZion Aug 2021 #11
I love Carville's blunt and honest assessment on most issues PatSeg Aug 2021 #12
Lawrence O'Donnell is so rare. Jon King Aug 2021 #13
Good to know.. TY Cha Aug 2021 #35
The right will want to go back there... Omnipresent Aug 2021 #15
It has been disgraceful. Digging for ratings tulipsandroses Aug 2021 #16
Thank you James Carville. I like hearing the plain truth... and liberalla Aug 2021 #17
Good for Carville. Well said. yardwork Aug 2021 #18
Love the Ragin' Cajun! Bravo Mr. Carville onetexan Aug 2021 #19
Aloha, onetexan! Cha Aug 2021 #37
Aloha Cha- teehee such a cute new meme onetexan Sep 2021 #38
lol.. Always good to see you... Cha Sep 2021 #39
It was the MSM's responsibility to inform us that the war was lost a long time ago-nt randr Aug 2021 #21
Well put! Poiuyt Aug 2021 #23
Could never be won 2abigbman Aug 2021 #24
Instead of continuing to bash Biden, the media should report on the findings of SIGAR. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #25
K&R Blue Owl Aug 2021 #28
What he said! calimary Aug 2021 #29
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #30
Brilliant, truthful, blunt as usual. Carville the magnificent. emmaverybo Aug 2021 #31
Lie down with lions tenaciousdem Aug 2021 #32
We didn't lose the war. Gore1FL Aug 2021 #33
Rt TY & JC! Cha Aug 2021 #34
K&R MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #36

Farmer-Rick

(10,156 posts)
1. I stop following the coverage
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:18 AM
Aug 2021

The corporate media made money off the war and now they are throwing a tantrum.

So no more reading or watching news about Afghanistan for me. I'll check it out again in about 6 months when the truth will catch up with the lies.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
14. I agree!
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:07 AM
Aug 2021

Along with friends, I marched, demonstrated in the heat of summer, cold wind of fall, rain of winter and spring. Rode the train to DC and San Francisxo (3X) to join mass marches. I heard all the lies, read about the corruption and waste. Wore a T-shirt that had an ever changing number of lost lives.
I do not want to hear the corporate media beating its chest and pulling out its hair. There were thousands, millions of us that knew it was wrong. I have no patience and no time to waste gazing on the carpet of bull shit being rolled out now!

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
2. #Turnthechannel when the media begins its unwarranted criticisms....
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:22 AM
Aug 2021

..I refuse to listen to their blah blah. This withdraw was genius....and brave of Joe.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
3. The most obscene version of bothsiderism is when the media attempts to manufacture failure...
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:51 AM
Aug 2021

When reporting on success.

soldierant

(6,847 posts)
22. Bothsiderism exists because of a misunderstanding of the word "fair"
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 03:49 PM
Aug 2021

There is a too-common belief that "fairness" consists of treating both (or all, if more than two) sides equally. It doesn't. Fairness consists of treating all sides justly. And that requires a whole heck of a lot of truth and integrity.

The common understanding of "fair" is like someone convicted of assault/battery and sentenced to prison saying, "It's not fair! I have to go to prison, but the guy I hit doesn't!" (Sound familiar?)

"Fair" (or "fair and balanced&quot journalism is not, in fact, fair at all when administered under this misconception. It's merely bothsiderism.

I'll go with "truthful and accurate" reporting over "fair and balanced" any day.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. oh geez, now they have to go on about "losing" the war?
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:52 AM
Aug 2021

That kind of war is not winnable. Since we had nukes, nothing is as simple as that.

PhylliPretzel

(140 posts)
10. We won the "war"
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 10:33 AM
Aug 2021

in two months. Then the occupation began, and an occupation is not winnable as no one wants to be occupied.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
8. I turned off Rachel last night
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 10:19 AM
Aug 2021

When she brought on Mrs. Greenspan.

Andrea Mitchell has been shameful for a long time.

Thank you James Carville for telling the truth.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
13. Lawrence O'Donnell is so rare.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:01 AM
Aug 2021

Pretty much the only major media personality that tells Afghanistan like it is and does not allow guests on that don't. He has surpassed even Rachel on this topic.

Omnipresent

(5,706 posts)
15. The right will want to go back there...
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:17 AM
Aug 2021

So its supporters can chant “USA! USA! USA! Until their peabrains explode.

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
16. It has been disgraceful. Digging for ratings
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:36 AM
Aug 2021

By whipping up hysteria. Along with being the mouth piece for war mongers. Just a guess, I haven’t looked it up. I imagine ratings are down since trump left office. Biden is, well, boring. We don’t have to tune in to see the latest atrocity by the US president. Because it doesn’t exist with this president. So what’s a cable company to do? Create drama, that will have people tune in

liberalla

(9,239 posts)
17. Thank you James Carville. I like hearing the plain truth... and
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:43 AM
Aug 2021

Joe Biden had the courage and integrity to tell us the truth and to do the right thing.

2abigbman

(29 posts)
24. Could never be won
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:58 PM
Aug 2021

Roman legions. The British 100 year war charge of the light brigade. The Russians all failed to win the Afghanistan. The Russians left after realizing even their brutality could best the Mujahideen. Our arrogance thought went could modernize a feudal 2000 year man centric culture. Never gonna happen. Anywhere in that part of the world. The people in charge have no incentive in changing. abigbman

Lonestarblue

(9,977 posts)
25. Instead of continuing to bash Biden, the media should report on the findings of SIGAR.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:59 PM
Aug 2021

That stands for Special Investigator for Afghanistan Reconstruction, and it is a damming report on mismanagement of resources in Afghanistan, the gravy train set up for private contractors, and the inability of the military to deal with the rampant corruption of the Afghan government. The American public needs badly to hear about this report, but the media won’t bother reporting it.

tenaciousdem

(104 posts)
32. Lie down with lions
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:44 PM
Aug 2021

They don't call Afghanistan "The Graveyard of Empires" for nothing.

Many countries have tried to conquer Afghanistan but they've all gotten their asses kicked and they've all lost the war despite their superpower status.

War pigs suck!

Gore1FL

(21,128 posts)
33. We didn't lose the war.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:12 PM
Aug 2021

We went there to eliminate Al Qaeda camps and kill bin Laden. We did that. The only reason we went after the Taliban is because they opposed to us eliminating Al Qaeda camps and killing bin Laden.

We didn't win the peace.

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