If the Supremes uphold the Texas abortion citizen spy bill stand . . . . .

[Stinky The Clown]

. . . . . which effectively stops legal abortions in Texas, what will be the political fallout?

Support for more right wingers to do the same in other states?

Support for left wingers wanting to defend a woman's rights?

I suspect it is more likely to be the latter. I can see the right being the dog that chased cars and finally caught one by the tail pipe.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. They had better not uphold it. It's criminal, wrong, and discriminatory. n/t

[edhopper]

2. Abortion will be legal in only

The Northesat, the West coast, and a couple of other States.

[carpetbagger]

3. The question of the 2020s...

Can the GOP hold power with 40 percent support through suppression, violence, money, and regional support? This will surely do nothing to endear them to the other 60 percent. But if the tables ever do turn, I hope we use whatever tools the USSC gives them against guns and corporate overreach.

[FBaggins]

5. That's really a question for a year or two from now

They aren't in a position to "uphold" the law. No lower court has ruled on it yet.

[DickKessler]

6. I think both will happen. I think it will embolden both forced-birth AND pro-choice people.

That's my view, anyway.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

7. There's also the possibility that no judges will award money in these cases

Just because there's a law that says 'you can sue' doesn't mean anyone will be able to successfully do so.

Seems like if the first few cases come in and judges just go 'naw, this is frivolous, you're not getting $10K for reporting an abortion' ... people will stop suing.

Think about how FLOODED the already overworked court system will be if they start handing out free $10K to everyone who 'tattles' about an abortion? There would be a freaking deluge.

I don't know that even the Con judges are going to like this idea.

[Mad_Machine76]

10. This is sort of my thinking

There's almost no way that this is going to be workable/enforceable. Also, it is bascially a "back door" abortion ban as most women don't even know they're pregnant at six weeks.

[FBaggins]

12. The problem with that is that the clinic need to be willing to break the law first

That's a big risk at $10k per patient.

Their initial statement was that they would be forced to obey the law... but that might just be a position they take to make the emergency appeal work.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

17. I was thinking of that too. I could them performing a few, then halting services

and waiting to see what happens in court, to minimize the financial risk.

Which still sucks of course.

But I wonder how much the state's judges are going to care for the legislature basically forcing 'standing' onto them. That's supposed to be their purview.

If ANYONE in the USA can sue, basically there could be 100000 cases filed for every abortion that happens where someone blabs on the internet 'my sister got one!'.

I've a feeling they'll quickly decide on 'no money for you' for the first few cases, in hopes of stemming the tide and rejecting the governor and legislature's f***ed up move.

[dsc]

19. judges are elected in Texas

and assuming you can judge shop as a plaintiff I think we will see many monetary awards

[Hugh_Lebowski]

20. We'll see how much they like it when some idiots posts on twitter 'my sister got an abortion in TX'

And the post office dumps 100,000 cases from all over the country via forklift into their offices from people looking for a free $10K.

[Irish_Dem]

8. We're becoming like more like communist China. Citizens ratting out each other for personal gain.

[roamer65]

9. It's going to bring the country to the brink of breakup.

This is an extremely divisive issue that has the ability to do it.

[Hekate]

11. One of the things the anti-abortionists have on us is their willingness to say & do anything ...

… including kill their opponents.

Another thing they have on us that few mention or remember is that when Roe vs Wade was decided, the old laws were left in place in many places — that is, Roe became the law of the land, but previous laws were not repealed by each individual state legislature. Comes the day that Roe is completely overturned, they’re back.

And then there’s the 300 pieces of legislation around the country that are poking at state legislatures like a swarm of sperm around a ripe egg. Just as with the proposed voting-restriction laws, there’s a lot of them and they are persistent.

For decades and decades the anti-choice fanatics have been plugging away at this. Shame and prayers outside clinics is only part of it. Killing doctors and terrorizing clinic staff members by doxxing them and stalking their children is only part of it.

Year by year, they have passed more and more extreme legislation — legislation that when presented on a ballot to voters actually fails to pass, but when presented in a state legislature ends up getting through. The end goal is to pass it up along to SCOTUS, and to keep doing so until the Court changes. That’s how they gutted the Voting Rights Act.

Stinky, I hate them with the heat of a thousand Suns.

I don’t know where it goes from here. I think everything (democracy, the republic, a woman’s control over her own body) stands on the edge of a knife. My only comment about “left wingers defending a woman’s rights” is that they’ll end up being the death of us. Democrats are on our side, yes. But the further left you go, the less some people can see that voting for Hillary Clinton (or Al Gore or Barack Obama or Joe Biden) to save the SCOTUS is a priority. And look at SCOTUS now.

[Runningdawg]

13. If upheld the coup will be complete. The US becomes Gilead overnight.

They won't stop with abortion rights, its' never been about babies. It's always been about controlling women and punishing any who won't bow to men. They won't stop until once again, we have fewer rights than their cattle.

[FBaggins]

14. Nope

There is no "upholding" of the law possible today. The only decision is whether or not to stay enactment while a court challenge is considered.

[hamsterjill]

15. I don't know, but Trump occupied the Oval Office for four years

So pardon me if I worry a little. As a Texas feminist. We will see what ole Amy does.

[PlanetBev]

16. You nailed it with the last sentence, Stinky

I was 22 when Roe was handed down. There are now two generations of very empowered women who have come up after me, and they’re use to rights being given, not taken away. They ain’t gonna go down so easy. Expect a epic battle.

[abqtommy]

18. Reliance on informants/snitches is right out of the Fascist Handbook For

Dummies. snark alert on: Since that worked so well for the Nazis during WWII the
present-day cultists just have to try it too. alert off Or maybe that isn't snark.

[Vinca]

21. I swear I'll never step foot in that state. Ever. They view women as brood mares and that's it.

[Runningdawg]

22. Best to bypass OK too. Their law will be twice as harsh and its coming before winter.