Pelosi just announced making abortion rights a Federal Law!!!!!

[dixiegrrrrl]

I hope they call it the Abbott Law.He just shot himself and all Pres. ambitions in the leg.

Nancy Pelosi Announces Vote On Bill To Codify Roe v. Wade
The House speaker said she’s responding to the Supreme Court’s “cowardly, dark-of-night decision” decision to greenlight Texas’ extreme anti-abortion law.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced Thursday that she plans to bring up legislation that would codify Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court decision that protects the right to choose to have an abortion, as soon as the House returns from recess this month.

“Upon our return, the House will bring up Congresswoman Judy Chu’s Women’s Health Protection Act to enshrine into law reproductive health care for all women across America,” Pelosi said in a statement.

Her announcement comes a day after the U.S. Supreme Court allowed an extreme Texas law to go into effect that criminalizes abortion at six weeks and deputizes citizens to enforce the ban.

The House speaker railed against the Supreme Court’s decision, saying its “cowardly, dark-of-night decision” to let the Texas law take effect “delivers catastrophe to women in Texas, particularly women of color and women from low-income communities.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nancy-pelosi-abortion-rights_n_6130eeeae4b05f53eda4b24b?qgc

[Botany]

1. Judy Chu's Women's Health Protection Act to enshrine into law reproductive health care for all women

Good luck to the GOP in getting the women's vote in 2022 and 2024.

[onetexan]

80. +1 -K&R!!! Madame Speaker strikes again!

i love her so much!!

[Botany]

85. Both her Joe Biden along with Chuck Schumer know their way around Congress.

Republican men in the senate want to stop this bill? Well fine then they can kiss 2022 and 2024
good bye. Something like 75% of all Americans support a woman's right to choose and I bet
you that # among women is even higher. How many republican women have had abortions or knew
somebody that did. As for what the Evangelical Talliban Christians think? Fuck 'em they are gone
as per their votes anyway. They can all move to the southern half of Missouri, Arkansas*, Oklahoma,
the Tex-Ass pan-handle and call it Jesus Land and then get sick and die from C-19 and genetic diseases
from interbreeding.

* We can keep the Buffalo River.

[leftieNanner]

2. I have a one word response

Filibuster.

I like what she said, but it will never become law.

[mopinko]

7. seems like 1 more reason to kill it.

[Mister Ed]

8. The future is unwritten. Never say never.

We are in a struggle for the very survival of democracy and human rights in the USA.

What would have come of the Civil Rights movement if the prevailing sentiment had been, "Sounds nice, but we'll never defeat racism"?

That era's hard-won victories for civil rights, and for women's rights, are not final. The struggle continues. We shall overcome.

[maxsolomon]

13. how about if we say "in this Congress"?

is that more realistic? Sinema and Manchin have killed the idea of eliminating or changing the Filibuster IN THIS CONGRESS.

this Congress lasts 14 more months. Pelosi can and will pass hundreds of bills that will die in the Senate between now and then.

[Mister Ed]

43. Politicians say things. Sometimes they really mean them.

Sometimes they can be pressured to change their minds.

I feel certain that Manchin and Sinema really mean what they say about the filibuster, but I see no reason to let up on them. If anything, the pressure should be increased, and then increased again.

[Liberty Belle]

74. Hardball time. Party needs to tell them they will run primary opponents, strip them of committees

in the meantime, and ostracize them and ruin their political careers if they don't support getting rid of the filibuster.

Meanwhile Biden needs to expand the size of Supreme Court now -- not wait for some endless study to be done. Women will be dying right away or forced to give birth to children they don't want, and in some cases may not even be able to safely carry to term.

[maxsolomon]

77. Not remotely realistic. Schumer has no appetite for those measures.

Manchin is the only possible Democrat that WV would return to the Senate. If he was primaried by a candidate to his left, he would be replaced with a GQP lunatic of Ron Johnson stupidity.

Sinema, maybe.

So much pie in the sky on DU today.

[StarfishSaver]

82. Sigh

Indeed

[DFW]

111. Unfortunately true. You play the hand you are dealt, not the one you want

If you have a pair of twos and try to act like you have a royal flush, you will lose everything.

[leftieNanner]

14. Thanks for your thoughtful response

It's difficult not to be down these days.

[KPN]

22. Thank you. Saying it can't be done is a sure recipe for not being able to do it. I reject that

outlook.

[Demsrule86]

27. Why do your reject it? This is an example of magical thinking if we want it badly enough or if

talk about it enough, we will somehow overcome the reality that is found in the Senate. We won't. At this moment we can't pass such a bill in the Senate. And the only way out is to win more elections. That is to increase our majority...all the wishing and hoping won't do it. We need to find practical solutions.

[KPN]

37. Magical thinking? Baloney. You made my point for me. I never said anything about when or how. I

am full of optimism about our ability to win in 2022 and again in 2024. Contrary to the assumptions you seem to have made, that is real and that is practical.

[Mister Ed]

40. Let's do what the Republicans do.

They are relentless. They never say die. They play for all the marbles, and if they fall short, they still get some of the marbles. Then they keep pushing for the rest of them.

It once might have seemed practical and realistic for Republicans to shrug and say, "What's the use? We'll never undo Roe v. Wade." But now, instead, they are on the cusp of doing exactly that.

Madame Speaker is playing for all of the marbles here, and I applaud her.

[oldsoftie]

56. HA! You're not paying attention to how they act in the states.

In Ga they're probably going to give the Governors office to Stacy Abrams because they cant STAND Brian Kemps refusal to back up trumps attempt to steal the GA vote. They will not vote for him & the 2 others running in the primary dont have what it takes to beat her. They already gave us the Senate for the same reason; too stupid and stubborn to show up for the runoff
And look at how they're acting in Mich, Wis & Az. Eating their own. If they keep that up, they'll cut off their arm to spite their body

[Mister Ed]

62. We'd better not sit back and take their self-destruction for granted.

That could be a terrible, terrible mistake.

[qazplm135]

86. I can't walk on the sun

Selma Hayek isn't leaving her billionaire husband for me.

I can't win the lottery.

I mean I can change those can't to cans, but the odds of anything of those things happening don't improve because I did.

[KPN]

90. Those aren't even analogous.

[qazplm135]

91. Sure they are

By your logic, saying I can't do something lowers the changes I can and if I avoid that I increase my chances right?

[KPN]

95. Nope. And I'll just refrain from talking about your "logic".

[qazplm135]

101. Well

If I wasn't very good at something I'd probably refrain from it too.

[oldsoftie]

116. Hey, dont sell yourself short. Selma's never MET you!

And you can always BUY a ticket for the lottery

[qazplm135]

118. Selma

Never meeting me probably increases my chances.

[BlueSky3]

78. +1,000

Thank you.

[Jerry2144]

20. This is yet

Another grain of sand on the beach of reasons to eliminate the filibuster

[RainCaster]

21. The filibuster will be used against the GOP in 2022

As well as Manchin & Sinema.

[lagomorph777]

30. Manchin and Sinema need to face extreme pressure every single day until they break.

[BlueIdaho]

93. They need to face an angry mob every single day

No one or two people should ever have the right to stand in the way of legislation that will make millions of Americans lives better. They should feel our collective anger.

[quakerboy]

104. Nah

Gang of 16. or whatever other excuse they come up with to pass the republican agenda. Or they just nuke the filibuster as soon as it becomes relevant to their ability to exert power.

[gratuitous]

24. Very true

100% of the bills that are not introduced don't become law. Without a guarantee of success, we should just hold our (legislative) fire and keep our powder dry for when we will win.

[KPN]

38. Hold our fire? For what purpose?

[gratuitous]

41. For when we're guaranteed to win, I think

I'm not quite following the logic, either, but it must be true because so many worthies are saying it.

[leftieNanner]

45. I think it was missing this:

[flying rabbit]

94. +1 NT

[StarfishSaver]

28. The 1964 Civil Rights Act and 1965 Voting Rights Act were dead in the water ... Until they weren't

[True Blue American]

35. I am not for abortion. But

I am not against it. Each woman has the right to make that choice. It is not up to me or a bunch of old hypocritical old fake Christian men. The Supreme Court is Catholic and that should not be allowed. The Court has to be changed. They have been corrupt since Bush vs. Gore.

God help us if those Preachers ever take over! Famous last words. Women are not chattel.

[FakeNoose]

47. That's another way of say "Every woman has the right to choose"

The Democratic Party has never been pro-abortion, but we do believe that every woman has the right to choose whether she will be a parent or not. Men have an easy choice, they can just walk away. This isn't about men's choices though.

Our party speaks up for those who can't speak for themselves, and in this case it's women. Not all women, but the poor, the unfortunate, the hopeless, those who lack good healthcare, and those who can't afford to give up their jobs to be a full-time parent. Roe v. Wade was about an unfortunate woman who was raped by several men, and none of them took responsibility for their despicable actions. So as a nation we've gone beyond that ruling, and it's time for federal laws to be passed. We need to make each woman's right to choose the law for everyone.

Whether you or I ever get an abortion is beside the point. It must be an available option for the women who do need it.

[True Blue American]

73. That was what I posted.

Last edited Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:39 AM - Edit history (1)

It is not my right or anyone else’s to make a personal decision. Rape and incest are not even excluded. There will be a bill in the House as soon as they return. Republicans are making themselves as despicable as they can.

You can kill a child though. Open carry without a permit is now allowed in Texas. I would not live in Texas or Florida if they gave me a mansion!

Spellcheck adds changes as I post!

[FakeNoose]

84. Agreed 100%

[ananda]

53. Is anybody actually "for" abortion?

It's choice and healthcare that we are for.

[Mariana]

76. Yes.

There's no good reason not to be "for" abortion - unless, of course, you think of an abortion as inherently a bad, shameful thing for a woman to do. I don't think that.

[crickets]

79. Thank you for cutting right through to the point.

"It'll never pass the Senate!"

Of course it won't if the vote is never taken. In politics, if you want something, you have to put on your big britches and go get it. Sometimes you have to try more than once. It's certain that if you pout in a corner and say, "it can't be done," those words will be forever true.

This is long, long overdue.

[vanlassie]

34. Hmm....

I had to check to see if the same poster posted this, regarding expanding the Court:

“That is not possible at the moment and would doom us in the midterms...just the attempt.”

I guess there’s one in every crowd, but as we say: “concern noted?”

[11 Bravo]

59. OK, but at least it will force Susan Collins and every other ...

namby-pamby Republican bullshit artist who claims to believe in a woman's right to choose and that Roe is "settled law", yet STILL voted to seat the drunken frat boy and Amy Bony Carrot, to cast a fucking yes or no vote.

[leftieNanner]

61. True. nt

[crickets]

81. 👆👆

[Grins]

70. Mine is "dangerous "

I don’t think every Democrat will vote for that, esp. in tight districts.

[orleans]

3. K&R!! nt

[montanacowboy]

4. But what about the voting rights law?

Unless the filibuster is eliminated forget everything else. I see us in charge of everything and still we can't do anything.

[global1]

5. I'm Sure That Will Pass The Senate....NOT....nt

[chowder66]

6. Good. Get the Repubs on record and use it against them in the coming

elections. This should help fire up the base at minimum.

[Demsrule86]

29. The filibuster will kill it and no Senator will vote on it.

[chowder66]

66. But that still gets them on record (so to speak) if they filibuster.

A vote would be better though.

[True Blue American]

36. 100%!

[2naSalit]

9. It's the only way to resolve this issue once and for all.

[brooklynite]

10. You realize it won't pass, right?

I don’t see what there is to get excited about.

[LanternWaste]

87. You realize your prophecies have been wildly off this mark the past year, right?

That said, I see no excitement. So I'm not surprised you're unable to see the source of that which doesn't exist.

Good try, though.

Keep it up!

[brooklynite]

88. One doesn't have to be prophetic to know the Republican Senators won't pass it...

…and unless you’re aware that the Democrats are going to eliminate the filibuster, my analysis stands.

[Polybius]

110. Republican?

Manchin is on record as being opposed to abortion. He will never vote for this.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

113. Yikes what were you wrong about? Missed it :)

[brooklynite]

114. You'll have to take that up with my groupie...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

119. Hahahaha 🤣

[totodeinhere]

11. I would support such a law of course.

But I'm afraid that the effort would be futile because this Court would probably overturn any law like that.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. This is a necessary move

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

31. Yes it was neccesary for electoral politics...we can get the GOP on record in the House if not the

Senate and use this issue to win seats in Congress. I just want folks to understand it won't become law.

[CrackityJones75]

15. BuT It wON't PasS Teh SenAtez!!!!!

Do you people think Pelosi is fucking stupid?


She is likely smarter than 90% of the folks on this forum when it comes to policy and politics.

Passing in the senate is not necessarily the goal here.

[dalton99a]

16. +1

[Marius25]

26. Stupid, no? She may have political reasons for this.

But the law won't actually pass.

[CrackityJones75]

33. Facepalm

[Marius25]

44. Instead of presenting a legitimate argument against my point,

you just facepalm. Makes sense.

[CrackityJones75]

54. there is no argument

you missed the point. The point was it’s passing the Senate is not necessarily the point at all.

[Marius25]

58. So the point is entirely political

If it doesn't pass the Senate, abortion will still be banned in most states.

And I don't believe the political angle will work.

[CrackityJones75]

63. so do you believe Nancy Pelosi is stupid?

The political angle is the only thing that can work! at least as of right now. do you really believe Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know that it won’t pass the Senate? like you have that figured out but she doesn’t? is she stupid for bringing house legislation up? and before you say that you didn’t say that others basically have and that was my point!

[Marius25]

67. I don't believe political angles work anymore.

Republicans have made it so hard for Democrats to vote in numerous states, that not even outrage over abortion will likely be enough to affect change.

[CrackityJones75]

69. So you think Nancy is stupid then.

Just say it. Or maybe you think she likes to waste her time? Or what is it?

If we cannot stop what is happening it is a waste of time to try to ramp up political pressure? Really? We shpuld not pull out all the stops? Because a DU poster thinks it doesn’t work.

[FBaggins]

112. I'm not sure that it would even pass in the House

I'm not sure that the handful of pro-choice Republicans would vote for such a measure - and Pelosi has a very tiny majority that couldn't stand to lose even the handful of remaining pro-life Democrats.

[bluestarone]

17. GREAT IDEA!

LOVE IT!!

[lindysalsagal]

18. 3..2..1..The GQP fundraisers don't want this because they lose their favorite wedge issue

I'm not just saying what I want to hear. This is not a good political outcome because the GQP have always been able to gotv and bring in the dough with an easy wave of this issue.

And I doubt the senate wants to tell half the population that their bodies are not their own. No. I doubt that, seriously. Only a minority of the idiot gqp wants to go on record voting this down.

Let's put the equal rights amendment through at the same time.

[obamanut2012]

19. Gerri Santoro Law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerri_Santoro

[KPN]

23. Nancy Pelosi would not be doing this if there was nothing to gain in doing so. This is big -- time

will reveal that.

[Hortensis]

48. Right. All her maneuvers are to achieve our goals.

"I'm never afraid and I'm rarely surprised." Nancy Pelosi

[Marius25]

25. Let's not get too excited.

It will never pass the Senate.

[Demsrule86]

32. But it might help us gain more seats in the Senate as it publicizes this issue.

[KG]

39. loooong past time

[Lonestarblue]

42. Even if the law doesn't pass, it will become an election issue.

Good political ads could turn this issue to Democrats’ favor. The Texas law is draconian because it forces women and girls to bear the babies of their rapists—often young girls of school age having to drop out of school to take care of a child when she is just a child and too young even to work. Anti-abortionists would just say that the baby can be put up for adoption, but the focus should be on the physical and emotional trauma of a 12-year-old being forced to have a baby.

Other women who are harmed are women who are pregnant and learn they have cancer. The majority choose abortion so they can be treated for cancer and try for another pregnancy later, but Texas has now removed that option. Unless the abortion is an emergency procedure to save the life of the woman, it is now illegal. For example, removing the fetal cells from the fallopian tube would be legal as it’s an emergency under the law because if the fallopian tube bursts, the woman can bleed to death. In addition, the pregnancy is not viable from the beginning.

We need to focus on the human stories and abortion as a part of overall healthcare because that’s exactly what it is. Abortion does save lives.

[Liberty Belle]

75. Yes, here are more women who will be hurt:

Women with severe mental health conditions who have to go off meds if they stay pregnant, and the safety of their children. Remember Andrea Yates, who was warned not to get pregnant due to post-partum severe depression? She had another child, went off the anti-psychotic meds, and drowned all of her children.

Now about women who can't get testing until the second trimester for severe genetic defects? Now she'll have to carry even a non-viable fetus to term, such as a fetus with no brain stem. I had a friend who learned at month 7 that all of the fetus's organs were growing outside the body; it could not possibly be saved.

What about a woman who was exposed to serious toxins early in her pregnancy that can cause serious birth defects and doesn't find out she's pregnant until too late? For instance, someone who experienced pesticide poisoning (as happened to me, though thankfully I wasn't pregnant).

What about poor women who simply cannot afford another baby?

Or one whose health (not life) will be threatened if she continues the pregnancy? I knew a woman who was hit by a bus, thrown into the air, came down face-first on the pavement and wound up in a coma; her parents had to choose whether to save her unborn baby or abort it so she could have surgery to rebuild her smashed-up face? No government should be making that decision.

I knew another woman who developed pre-eclampsia, a condition dangerous to the mother. She had a toddler at home.

All of these choices are difficult and should belong to the mother or if she's incapacitated, to whoever she's given her medical power of attorney.

[slumcamper]

46. Crying SHAME this took SO long.

We have played defense far too long.

We are at war: social, economic, and political.

It's time for "scorched earth," Dems! Time is a-wastin'!

[FakeNoose]

49. Yes it is, but "better late than never"

I just posted upthread (#47) that the Roe v. Wade ruling was based on the case of an unfortunate woman who was raped by several men and none of them took responsibility.
Haven't we gone beyond that by now?

It's time to make it the law of the land: Every woman has the right to choose whether she will be a parent or not. No state should be allowed to pass mickey-mouse laws and remove that right.

[Moosepoop]

98. Roe v. Wade plaintiff was not raped.

Norma McCorvey initially claimed that she was gang-raped, believing that she could get around the abortion law that way. She dropped that claim and later admitted that she had made that part up. It was never a part of the Supreme Court case, and wasn't true to begin with.

We do need to make the right to an abortion the law of the land. What we don't need is inaccurate information being bandied about. Please stop claiming that Roe v. Wade was about rape. It wasn't.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/10/rape-wasnt-part-of-roe-decision/

[ColinC]

50. Thank you, Mrs Speaker

But will it pass the Senate?

[ananda]

51. Also, how about arresting and impeaching Kavanaugh for rape?!!

...

[BlancheSplanchnik]

52. Pelosi is a gem. 💎.

[Joinfortmill]

55. 👍

[jalan48]

57. Why didn't we do this years ago?

[AllaN01Bear]

60. thank you madame chair. make it so. as someone pointed out , abortion is healthcare .

after the child is born,,,, the rs dont give a hoot hoot hoot.



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[Marthe48]

64. And if it is codified?

How long? We have to stop letting rights depend on the vagaries of the personalities we vote into office. One generation supports humna, civil and women's rights and advances rights somewhat. The next generation doesn't support rights and peels what we have away.

How long do humans anywhere have to rely on a generous ruling class to get a taste of equality? The only things we have going for us is that people do get a taste, and they want more. And if the rights are peeled back, people miss them and want them back. So we go one step forward and one step back, over and over.

I'm glad Speaker Pelosi will bring a bill to the floor. Whatever it takes to slap down the repressive regressives, do it.

[JCMach1]

65. Close the end run on judicial review, period... much better approach

[msongs]

68. after they have yet another recess. must be nice to work half time nt

[Jose Garcia]

71. She can't even get the House to pass a bill to extend the eviction moratorium

[Hekate]

72. Madame Speaker of the House is a treasure. She always knows the votes in the House ...

…down to the last holdout.

[Roland99]

83. Better nuke the filibuster first or this ain't going anywhere

[trof]

89. I guess we have to keep doing this to keep it before the voters, but it's fruitless

until we get a solid majority in both houses.

[ismnotwasm]

92. K&R

[colsohlibgal]

96. Time To Fight Hard

This Texas Law is despicable.....doubly so where incest is involved.

Wish I was sure things will turn out OK but we’re up against it.

[JCMach1]

97. put money in the mix somehow and add it to the Budget Reconciliation

[malaise]

99. Huge News

[Shoonra]

102. How this legislation might appear

Possible legislative responses to Texas Senate Bill 8 (the anti-abortion law):

A federal law "No United States Court may entertain a lawsuit brought under Texas SB 8."

And a similar law passed in every state "No court of this State may entertain ....."

If federal courts and state courts outside Texas will not permit the lawsuits intended by SB8 the Texas law would eventually grind to a halt; its only environment being Texas courts, which would simplify the constitutional challenge.

[quakerboy]

103. And then the senate fillibusters

And Manchin and Sinema uphold the filibuster and texas continues on with a dozen other states following with zerox laws in the next few months.

Lets celebrate when a law has any actual possibility of passing. But only for a couple days, because then we have to get on to actually passing the law, which will be even more work.

[Demovictory9]

105. k&r

[aocommunalpunch]

106. It's unlikely to pass due to the filibuster.

However, it will be used to raise a lot of money. Driving people to desperation makes me incredibly sad.

[Polybius]

109. Don't even need the filibuster

Manchin is staunchly opposed to this.

[Lucinda]

107. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Hulk]

108. Good luck with that...

We have democratic congressmen that won't go for that one...and how many gopers you think are going to jump on that political suicide bus.

[rdking647]

115. except shes waiting 3 weeks to call the house back to pass it

[Buckeyeblue]

117. It'll be interesting to watch this play out in the Senate

We would need 10 Republicans to support it to prevent a filibuster. I would think Collins and Murkowski would support it. But then we need 8 more. Who are some Republicans that might be open to this law?