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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs DOJ hamstrung? I'm not sure under Garland's leadership that accountability and prosecution
are priorities. I'm contrasting to the arrests ironically under the previous administration (Manafort, Stone, etc.) for crimes committed. And can we ever have an un-redacted Mueller report?? Perhaps DOJ is as divided as America.
budkin
(6,699 posts)We only get statements saying how they are going to do this and that but never do anything.
jimfields33
(15,751 posts)I know he was not appointed until a few months after president Biden was inaugurated. It really hasnt been that long. If a year from now, nothing, then its time for concern.
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)... and how things are going would give hope to the masses that put these people in power.
PortTack
(32,750 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Retrograde
(10,132 posts)or as another poster said, a pointperson to regularly tell the public what's been accomplished. The GOP and their base understand it's all about getting the message out, and that's what they're good at.
ecstatic
(32,673 posts)That's what happened with Mueller. I'm just going to assume nothing will be done until they show me different.
Also, even though they're not required to give updates, they should respect us enough to do so. They don't have to give their strategy away, just let us know that they're at least working towards prosecuting the planners of the attack.
Keeping the public informed has been standard practice for every other attack! What other attack can you think of where the authorities disappeared into a backroom and never updated the public again? And I'm not referring to the minions who carried out the attack--I want to be updated on the big fish. They need to be held accountable but instead they're still in Congress and/or threatening to run for president again in 2024.
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)What a fucked up democracy that would be. Accountability matters.
JohnSJ
(92,110 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)JohnSJ
(92,110 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Full-term babies have been conceived and delivered since the coup attempt.
None of the leaders are in jail yet. We know who they are.
Mad_Machine76
(24,399 posts)It's hard to tell TBH. I have a hard time believing that they are sitting on their hands but I imagine they have a lot of messes to clean up and sort out and 1/6 is a huge mess in and of itself. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt for awhile. I don't subscribe to the idea that they are incompetent, negligent, etc.
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)that Garland doesnt want to deal with things in the past. When I mentioned this to my husband he said, arent most crimes in the past?
Thought, damn. Got a glass of wine.
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)former9thward
(31,961 posts)Then when they get in power someone whispers to them "Yes, it would be nice to close it but we need someplace we can take non citizens where U.S. Constitutional rights do not apply" And it never gets closed.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,919 posts)And if by some miracle it actually is shut down, I guarantee it's because we've got a replacement up and running elsewhere.
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)that was nice of him to say to Rachel. The way of things in this country does not bode well for accountability. It's never been done before.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)That can't be removed.
But there is no way to know.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)So far he sounds like Trump in two weeks I will reveal Some day I hope I can say Im wrong - but so far hes underwhelming. He may be a good judge but as Americas Prosecutor hes toothless.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Bettie
(16,083 posts)well, the institution means nothing if it stands for nothing but "normalcy", whatever that even is.
If there was ever a time for the DOJ to act boldly and decisively - its now!
Retrograde
(10,132 posts)to Obama as "a judge he could work with", which to me is telling. He's a moderate, which these days is about what the right was 50 years ago. I'd like to see more motion on the Jan. 6 rioters for a start - why does it seem like the courts are going so slowly? They committed federal crimes, surely a federal law enforcement agency has an interest in seeing these cases prosecuted.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)And held press conferences second. Today it seems like they are so busy holding press conferences they never get around to using the law to protect the people. Civil rights? Voting rights? Womens rights? Protecting the constitution from those that would shit on it? There is much to be done but the DOJ under Garland doesnt seem too interested in doing any of it.
Bettie
(16,083 posts)or it will "seem political".
Honestly, I don't expect to see any action from them beyond a few 'slap on the wrist' type sentences for lower level insurrectionists and then, they'll just let the rest of it go.
I wish I believed that there was even a slight possibility of justice or even accountability, but I don't.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)When they were trying to enforce civil rights laws against George Wallace.
Bettie
(16,083 posts)it's a really good thing.
Now imagine this DOJ in that situation.
Who knows? Maybe there are things happening...I wish I believed that was the case. I really do.
I really hope I'm wrong.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Mary in S. Carolina
(1,364 posts)Why is Garland not going after the Churches??
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Garland isnt going after anyone for anything.
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)"political." That's fine, except when there have been crimes committed that impact our democracy.
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)window dressing, we are cooked.
NBachers
(17,096 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,046 posts)Link to tweet
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Hekate
(90,616 posts)Hekate
(90,616 posts)
wallowing in this despair. That takes talent!
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Hekate
(90,616 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,618 posts)so I'm not that worried.
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Please.