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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:42 PM Sep 2021

I'm not sure that I agree, I think the unity that happened after 9/11

was organic. I don't think we realized at that point it was important it just happened. Such a horrific thing hadn't happened to us in recent years. Perhaps since world war II? The unity was instinctual. Can't manufacture it. And the world was with us.. until Bush started a war.

But that was 20 years ago. Now Trump & GOP has ruined it all.

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I'm not sure that I agree, I think the unity that happened after 9/11 (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 OP
It was a 'we're all in this together' feeling. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #1
I know :(. It's really sad. Like the Capitol break in, if it Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #3
I remember how much I wanted to be in the company of Turbineguy Sep 2021 #2
Or Canadians. We got married 4 days after 9/11 and had to divert Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #4
Yep, the unity was real and comforting. Then, as you said, george war bush Hoyt Sep 2021 #5
Do you think it will come back? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #13
I felt unified even with Republicans, thinking... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #6
And then the 2004 election became.. NCDem47 Sep 2021 #8
They are shallow, mindless "rah rah" fucks. nt Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #9
Fox News attacked and blamed Democrats on 9/12. Kingofalldems Sep 2021 #7
2002. Mid-term elections. The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #10
What I saw develop after 9/11 was the development of for profit hate groups malaise Sep 2021 #11
As odd as this sounds, take me back... nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #12
Yeah, it went south LeftInTX Sep 2021 #14
If you were a muslim or looked like one Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #15
Seriously. róisín_dubh Sep 2021 #16

NH Ethylene

(30,803 posts)
1. It was a 'we're all in this together' feeling.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:53 PM
Sep 2021

I remember it being said, "We're all New Yorkers right now."

I don't think this would happen today. The polarization has created such a crevasse between us that I am doubtful it could be spanned by a tragedy or an attack.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. I know :(. It's really sad. Like the Capitol break in, if it
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:02 PM
Sep 2021

had happened in 2001, would have been one of those moments. Perhaps we are all jaded? What in the world could be absolutely worse than planes flying into buildings and then collapsing before our eyes.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. Or Canadians. We got married 4 days after 9/11 and had to divert
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:09 PM
Sep 2021

our honeymoon plans. Flew to Buffalo because it was one of the only flights but then drove into Canada. People were super pissed. Because Bush said all the flights could land there and not here. They said thanks a lot. I have fond memories of being in pubs in Toronto. Bush was on the TV screen and everyone was hooting and dissing him

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Yep, the unity was real and comforting. Then, as you said, george war bush
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:21 PM
Sep 2021

started bombing innocent people.

Then, the GOPers went after Kerry. Obama’s 8 years felt good again. Then, it got even worse with trump.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
6. I felt unified even with Republicans, thinking...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:24 PM
Sep 2021

... that surely even Dumbya wasn't dumb enough to screw up our response to it. He'd immediately order troops to Afghanistan, who would capture and kill Bin Laden (among other Al Qaeda members), and some measure of swift justice would be done.

Then it became obvious in the following days and weeks that it wasn't going to happen, and more attention was given to Iraq instead.

Poof! Any sense of unity for me was quickly gone, and Dumbya's temporary approval rating of 90+% likewise evaporated.

Meanwhile, Republicans kept trying to keep the torch of unity aflame with their typically SHALLOW "USA! USA! USA!" chants and their eventual objection to french fries (since the French also thought the focus on Iraq was crazy), renaming them "freedom fries" instead.

It was like thinking you're on a good team, only to be reminded again that most of them (the right-wingers) are infantile and moronic. They're more interested in mindless platitudes that make them "feel good" rather than real solutions.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
8. And then the 2004 election became..
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:29 PM
Sep 2021

“We’ll, we can’t change Presidents in war time!”

Convenient.

Oh, and Republican National Convention moved to NYC. First time in history and blocks from Ground Zero.

Kingofalldems

(38,425 posts)
7. Fox News attacked and blamed Democrats on 9/12.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:25 PM
Sep 2021

Blonde midday host on 9/12: "It's sad the Democrats cut the military budget, so sad."

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,784 posts)
10. 2002. Mid-term elections.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:41 PM
Sep 2021

Shrub turned around and told voters to elect pukes because “democrats are soft on terror”. His underlings declared “democrats would rather hold focus groups than kill the terrorists”.

The unity that held America together after 9/11. They threw it in the trash.

And when they accomplished that, they diverted into Iraq.

malaise

(268,715 posts)
11. What I saw develop after 9/11 was the development of for profit hate groups
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:44 PM
Sep 2021

and for profit anti-Muslim grifters

LeftInTX

(25,140 posts)
14. Yeah, it went south
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 01:54 AM
Sep 2021

Bush did do a good job in the immediate aftermath.

He said, "Islam is not the enemy".

Since I came from a family who was murdered by Moslems, I found this comforting because my rage was kinda sky-high right after 9/11.


Then, he messed everything up, which didn't surprise me one bit.

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