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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRolling Stone updates 500 Greatest Songs of All Time list with big changes, new No. 1
The Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin, took home the top spot for her version of "Respect," which was originally recorded by Otis Redding. Snagging second place was Public Enemy's "Fight the Power."
The magazine noted that its list was created from over 250 artists, writers and industry figures who participated in a poll of over 4,000 songs.
Rolling Stone's original list came in 2004, but a measurable amount of change was evidenced in the revised list, with nearly half the songs new to the ranking. There's far more hip hop, country music, Latin pop, reggae and R&B in the latest list. Outkast's "Hey Ya!," for instance, checked in at No. 10, while Kanye West's "Stronger" took the final spot at No. 500.
20. Robyn: "Dancing on My Own"
19. John Lennon: "Imagine"
18. Prince and the Revolution: "Purple Rain"
17. Queen: "Bohemian Rhapsody"
16. Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z: "Crazy in Love"
15. The Beatles: "I Want to Hold Your Hand"
14. The Kinks: "Waterloo Sunset"
13. The Rolling Stones: "Gimme Shelter"
12. Stevie Wonder: "Superstition"
11. The Beach Boys: "God Only Knows"
10. Outkast: "Hey Ya!"
9. Fleetwood Mac: "Dreams"
8. Missy Elliott: "Get Ur Freak On"
7. The Beatles: "Strawberry Fields Forever"
6. Marvin Gaye: "Whats Going On"
5. Nirvana: "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
4. Bob Dylan: "Like a Rolling Stone"
3. Sam Cooke: "A Change Is Gonna Come"
2. Public Enemy: "Fight the Power"
1. Aretha Franklin: "Respect"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/09/16/rolling-stone-updates-500-greatest-songs-all-time-list-new-no-1/8361150002/
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-songs-of-all-time-1224767/kanye-west-stronger-1224837/
hibbing
(10,094 posts)Don't want to start a flame war, but one of these is from the most overrated bands in the history of music!
Peace
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:10 PM - Edit history (1)
on this by Rolling Stone. It is interesting info so thanks for the original op here.
hibbing
(10,094 posts)RobinA
(9,886 posts)Had I been I would have mentioned that mixing genres is a terrible idea.
NNadir
(33,468 posts)Dakota Flint
(219 posts)Response to NNadir (Reply #18)
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CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Mr. Evil
(2,825 posts)Never could wrap my head around how such depressing, heroin-fueled music quickly became so popular and thankfully, so quickly died. Rock & Roll is supposed to be over-the-top, larger than life, flamboyant and the concerts are supposed to raise the roof! I absolutely hate that grunge shit!
*I had to repost this as I originally replied to the wrong post. My apologies!*
BannonsLiver
(16,294 posts)For example, I think Anthrax and Motorhead both suck.
Ahpook
(2,749 posts)and the rest of those bands were squeaky clean, angelic alter boys?
Not enjoying the message is one thing, but the heroin fuel has been very present in quite a few rock bands from way back.
I'll agree that Nirvana didn't age well, but AIC and Soundgarden wrote fantastic songs.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)But music is subjective
True Dough
(17,246 posts)Stairway to Heaven is usually top 5. This list isn't for me!
Aristus
(66,286 posts)Denied!
True Dough
(17,246 posts)Glad to provide you a prime opportunity!
Aristus
(66,286 posts)My dream has been fulfilled...
Thank you...
True Dough
(17,246 posts)demmiblue
(36,823 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,216 posts)Johonny
(20,818 posts)Same with The Who.
Rolling Stone has huge biases and always have. The literally hated Queen until Mercury died of Aids. Sad but true.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)...for #8.
There are songs on the list that have had tremendous staying power.
There are others that became nearly ubiquitous.
I don't think that Elliott song has the latter, and I'm betting it won't have the former.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)that have been big hits in their own rights, it's musically rich and complex. As for entertainment, it's a banger. Missy should be up high and seeing this song at 8 was a pleasant surprise.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)The biggest offront for me is God Only Knows missing the Top 10. Actually, I think it should be Top 5.
But I can't complain too much about the ones included. I appreciate that they've moved on from classic rock and added a lot of diversity to their list.
Polybius
(15,334 posts)I think it should be #1.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Personally I think Buckleys shouldve been used instead. And I wouldnt argue it in the Top 10.
Polybius
(15,334 posts)And Cohen's version isn't even in the 2nd best anymore. Pentatonix did a truly outstanding version in 2016.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)Music is all about taste anyway.
I'm sure there are songs I think are all-time greats that you wouldn't like, and vice versa.
That's why there are dozens of genres.
Is her song my taste? No. But, there are others on that list that aren't my taste, but I can easily see the impact.
And, being sampled doesn't work for me as evidence of staying power. For you & others, it may be. Again, we're influenced by our tastes.
But, there are songs on that list 40, 50, 60+ years old. I'm just not able to see people remembering her hit in 50 years.
If I'm wrong, I'll admit I was wrong.
Polybius
(15,334 posts)#10 is the biggest joke on that list.
BComplex
(8,017 posts)Fail. Total fail.
highplainsdem
(48,910 posts)the other 18.
llmart
(15,532 posts)But I'll disagree with you that it shouldn't be on the list. Also, Sam Cooke. Those songs are impactful.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Lots I have never listened too.
Edit:
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underpants
(182,603 posts)Thanks
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)TexasTowelie
(111,938 posts)and I listened to the complete Village Green Preservation Society album less than two weeks ago.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Waterloo Sunset was released as the follow up single to "Sunny Afternoon" in America. I think it barely cracked the top 40 briefly, if at all. I played that single all of the time because I absolutely loved the song. It's actually a rare 45 now (which makes it worth all of about ten bucks, lol). I still have it but it but the song is included in some "Greatest Hits" type Kinks CDs. I never understood why it wasn't a hit, before the world finally caught up to how beautiful a song Waterloo Sunset is. I read that when the UK voted on Brexit, London was the only part of England proper that voted to stay in the EU. As a result a major London radio station ran a contest for listeners to nominate a "London National Anthem" as if London were leaving England. Waterloo Sunset was the winner. At the 2012 Olympics Ray Davies performed a live version as part of the closing ceremony. Inexplicably NBC didn't include it in their coverage. There is relatively poor video of it on YouTube, but you can still tell it was a great performance.
TheDemsshouldhireme
(172 posts)have never heard this song, it isnt even a top 5 kinks song imho.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)It along with many others I dont think people listened to made this list. Songs I would have thought definitely did not.
However, it is my favorite Kinks song. Major Kinks fan.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)Those mid 60s Kinks LPs (Something Else, Village Green) are treasures, but they never really broke on this side of the Atlantic. Hence the ignorance of WS on this thread I think. I'd never heard those LPs until my mid-20s, when I picked them up in a Cincy thrift store on Spanish-label cassettes. Still have those versions!
My stepdaughter, a major Elliot Smith fan in her teens, loves that song - because of that cover, it might be the best-known Kinks song to many Millenials.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Wed be better off compiling our own top 20 songs.
There really is no such thing as best song
ever... Music is so subjective.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)and getting Boomers worked up, then it worked very well.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)I was so angry when they cut away from him performing it at the London Olympics.
It's not my favorite (That's "Days" or "Celluloid Heroes" , but "Waterloo Sunset" is a perfect song.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)WS is my fav for some reason. Apparently someone at RS thinks do too.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Is as good as any block of albums from the bigger bands like the Who and the Stones
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)That Village Green Preservation Society is a great album. That could be on my album list.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Goodheart
(5,308 posts)how popular, how influential, how many times covered, how innovative. On each of those, "Waterloo" by ABBA is far greater than Waterloo Sunset.
This list is dumb.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)We do agree this list isnt pleasing anyone.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)"Living on a Thin Line" from the 80s is also really good, but I think the Brexiteers co-opted that one...
Norbert
(6,038 posts)including about half the songs on 'Villiage Green' masterpiece. Happy this was so well placed though.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Otto_Harper
(507 posts)While I haven't reviewed the entire list, how could one ever leave off the 16th century hit "La Mantovana", which spread throughout Europe and underlies at least 2 national anthems, a major piece of symphonic music and dozens of familiar folk melodies.
We can start in Italy with "Fuggi Fuggi Fuggi" in the 16th century, and make it to "Hatikvah" in the 20th.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Inspired by this exact point.
He starts with "Summer Is Icumen In" and works his way through to Britney Spears.
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geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Plus it's so Euro/Anglo-centric it's laughable.
Champp
(2,114 posts)This has got to be a Republican-RollingStoner plot to undervalue Leader of the Laundromat. I won't have it.
nilram
(2,886 posts)It just gave me memories Id rather not have.
I'm a little p.o.'ed that the Chipmunks weren't even mentioned.
TexasTowelie
(111,938 posts)radicalleft
(478 posts)Oh please...hated them when they came out and hate them still!
Happy Hoosier
(7,216 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As always!
Goodness gracious.
C Moon
(12,208 posts)like I Want to Hold Your Hand: not the bands best, but it turned the music scene around almost over night.
Like them or not, Nirvanas impact with that song and album was huge.
Mr. Evil
(2,825 posts)Music is supposed to make you feel good. Not make you more depressed than you already are. I'm so glad that grunge shit died a quick death!
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Some great artist are not happy artist and their music is just as magical and impactful as feel good music.
Mr. Evil
(2,825 posts)most musicians (including myself) I've ever known prefer to make a positive impact. Yes, there are sad songs about lost love and that kind of shit but, an entire genre built on being down and depressed is only impactful if you need music to do heroin by. And how much is it really enjoyed when you're practically in a coma? Going to one of those concerts was painful. Barely anything remotely exciting. Just some dudes playing, looking like they haven't had a shower in over a month.
Sorry, but, there's absolutely nothing musically inspiring about that genre of music.
Happy Hoosier
(7,216 posts)There is lots of music throughout history that explore dark emotions. It's shocking to me you'd call yourself a musician and not be able to acknowledge that, even if you don't personally prefer it.
YOU may not like grunge, but a lot of people do, especially of my generation. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden... I think it's pretty hard to argue these groups didn't offer a significant contribution to music, even if you don't like it all that much. For example, I don't much care for R&B, but I certainly recognize that there are great R&B songs. I mean I wouldn't pick "Respect" as the best song of all time, but I can certainly appreciate the argument for it.
Bongo Prophet
(2,642 posts)"Forced out, brave and mighty
Stolen land, they can't fight it
Hold on to pride and tradition
Even though they know
How much their lives are really missing
We're dissing them
On reservations
A hopeless situation"
-- Indians by Anthrax
or
"They dedicate their lives to running all of his
He tries to please them all, this bitter man he is
Throughout his life the same, he's battled constantly
This fight he cannot win, a tired man they see no longer cares
The old man then prepares to die regretfully
That old man here is me, yeah
[Chorus]
What I've felt, what I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
Never be, never see
Won't see what might have been
What I've felt, what I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
Never free, never me
So I dub thee 'Unforgiven' "
---- Unforgiven by Metallica
Now these random examples are arguably depressing, hardly making one 'feel good'.
Songs about racial injustice and religious bigotry probably shouldn't.
Just a thought.
I could go on and on with other examples, from metal to punk to prog to hiphop, but prefer to be brief, ha ha.
Oh, were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Mr. Evil
(2,825 posts)You ever see Anthrax or Metallica live. I've seen both multiple times. Indians isn't depressing, it's angry about a system fucking over indigenous people. Yes, shedding much needed light on an injustice. Very intense and brutal live.
Great musicianship and presentation. Anthrax always brings their A-game.
Metallica; always an unforgettable show. Unforgiven is intense in its presentation especially during Kirk's lead break. You can't just stand there and play a song, you have to also express the song.
Grunge just had no presentation. No intensity or long lasting entertainment value. All the bands wore the same slovenly flannel shirts and dirty pants. Boring.
We're just different. I'm a lifelong Metalhead and obviously biased toward that genre. I like the intensity, the flames, the bombs, the lights. It's all part of the production and presentation and it's exciting! If you really want to see the difference, watch the entire Motley Crue Carnival of Sins show on Blu-Ray or whatever. Have a few beers and enjoy! It's an extravaganza! I saw that show live twice (New Orleans and in Baton Rouge after they extended the tour). Quite possibly two of the best shows I've ever seen live. Definitely the most fun! Give it a try. You'll see what I mean.
Celerity
(43,102 posts)I am sure Nirvana and
does make many feel good.
I can almost guarantee some of the music you think is the dog's bollocks will make me want to wretch.
Different tastes and all that.
Celerity
(43,102 posts)radicalleft
(478 posts)and as I've gotten older, country from the same era is enjoyable. As others have pointed out, Nirvana and most of the west coast grunge scene IMHO was lazy, hack talent that was depressing and quite frankly, baffling in it's appeal to MTV...
ruet
(10,037 posts)you're wrong. I don't think I'd call anyone in Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Pearljam or even Nirvana "hacks" or lazy. Chris Novoselic is a great bassist. Dave Grohl is one of the most diverse and prolific musical artists of all time. You may not appreciate Curt Cobain's playing but it fit in with what the band was doing musically and he was, actually, quite solid. His writing was off the charts.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)"Did you know Dave Grohl had a band before Foo Fighters?"
Polybius
(15,334 posts)"Smells Like Teen Spirit" was a revolution song: It truly sparked a musical revolution, even though I didn't like the outcome.
Happy Hoosier
(7,216 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I confess I just checked the last 50 entries, so if that dreck (My Pal Foot Foot) made the list, then the list is even more bogus than if it didn't.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)definitely need to be on the list somewhere!
LeftInTX
(25,126 posts)It's so ubiquitous
Goodheart
(5,308 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,584 posts)Songs off of Bare Tree, Future Games, Heros are Hard to Find and Mystery to Me.
The song Why sung by Christine McVie is beautiful in my opinion. Here is a live version
which makes it a little raw. Saw them in 75 in Philadelphia.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)I can't see how it scored higher than "Landslide," (or "Silver Spring," but that song is always overlooked) and I don't even think that should be Top 10.
And it's DEFINITELY not better than "God Only Knows" or "Waterloo Sunset."
sop
(10,100 posts)Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)And half of the next ten.
Poiuyt
(18,114 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... Rolling Stone should do a list of the songs they've dropped or omitted from past lists - and call it THE NOT-SO-GREAT SONGS LIST. I have a lot of Respect for Aretha, but Chain of Fools is greater. Also, I wouldn't give Creedence to any list that doesn't include Jessie's Girl.
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Moostache
(9,895 posts)Really? Ugh...very pedestrian effort from a formerly great resource...
19. John Lennon: "Imagine"
(OK...not a Beatles track but John's best solo record and well worth this or higher slot)
15. The Beatles: "I Want to Hold Your Hand"
(Help!, We Can Work It Out, Love Me Do...all are superior Beatles records!!!)
7. The Beatles: "Strawberry Fields Forever"
(In My Life, A Day In The Life, All You Need Is Love, Come Together...sheesh...you have to wonder if the list was made by throwing darts at a board while blindfolded!!!
Total lack of inclusion of possibly the three most iconic Beatles records of all time?
? Hey Jude
? Yesterday
? Let It Be
Rolling Stone has gone full cos-play apparently!
And my bias is clear with this statement - any top 20 list of all-time songs that does not feature "One" by U2 is wholly unreliable!!! LOL!
xmas74
(29,670 posts)I Want to Hold Your Hand set everything off, not just for The Beatles but the entire British Invasion. That's why it's usually their highest on any top chart. The initial impact sets it apart.
Mysterian
(4,568 posts)Art is a matter of taste and subjective.
Jansen
(105 posts)Celerity
(43,102 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)Hey Ya is beloved. It gets the ladies on the dance floor.
Shake it like a polaroid pictcha!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)By that standard, mambo #5 and the electric slide would be top 25
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Top 10 good? I don't think so, but it is a good song.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)It's absolutely not top 10 material, but I wouldn't argue it being included in the top 500.
llmart
(15,532 posts)That doesn't mean it should be in the Top 10.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)That, among a few others on that list, gave me a good laugh. I could probably rattle off a few dozen songs right off the top of my head that are much more worthy than that footnote in pop history.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Now let's fight about it. (or not).
ecstatic
(32,652 posts)marie999
(3,334 posts)MissMillie
(38,529 posts).
msongs
(67,360 posts)Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)edhopper
(33,479 posts)derivative, mediocre song.
#20?
This list is just embarrassing.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)It's very good. It's not Top 20 material, but it is a very good pop song. The Swedes know how to write/produce a catchy tune.
Casady1
(2,133 posts)but anyone growing up in the sixties would put "Like a Rolling stone" above it. Dylan was transformational and that was the first 6 minute song on the radio( not bohemian rhapsody which has always bored me). This song revolutionized radio and ushered in long form songs.
Brother Buzz
(36,375 posts)In no particular order, except that, as any intelligent person knows, any decent road trip will start with ZZ Top.
1. ZZ Top, "Sharp-Dressed Man"
2. ZZ Top, "Legs"
3. Wilson Pickett, "Mustang Sally"
4. Crash Test Dummies, "Superman's Song"
5. David Essex, "Rock On"
6. Golden Earring, "Radar Love"
7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass"
8. Jefferson Airplane, "White Rabbit"
9. Jefferson Airplane, "Somebody to Love"
10. Derek and the Dominoes, "Layla"
11. Doors, "Roadhouse Blues"
12. Animals, "House of the Rising Sun"
13. Aerosmith, "Sweet Emotion"
14. Aerosmith, "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)"
15. Bruce Springsteen, "Dancing in the Dark"
16. Bruce Springsteen, "Born to Run"
17. Bruce Springsteen, "Thunder Road"
18. Police, "Every Breath You Take"
19. Tom Waits, "Heart of Saturday Night"
20. Van Halen, "Hot for Teacher"
21. Who, "Wont Get Fooled Again"
22. Gipsy Kings, "Hotel California"
23. Tracy Chapman, "Give Me One Reason"
24. Creedence Clearwater Revival, "Down on the Corner"
25. Eagles, "Lyin' Eyes"
26. Eagles, "Life in the Fast Lane"
27. Dire Straits, "Skateaway"
28. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Mary Jane's Last Dance"
29. Janis Joplin, "Me 'n Bobby McGee"
30. The Doobie Brothers, "Black Water"
31. Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, "I Love Rock 'n Roll"
22. John Mellencamp, "Jack and Diane"
33. Pink Floyd, "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)"
34. Pink Floyd, "Money"
35. Billy Joel, "Piano Man"
36. Eric Clapton, "After Midnight"
37. Eric Clapton, "Lay Down Sally"
38. AC/DC, "You Shook Me All Night Long"
39. AC/DC, "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap"
40. The Hollies, "Long Cool Woman (in a Black Dress)"
41. Bob Dylan, "Like a Rolling Stone"
42. Bob Dylan, "Knockin' on Heavens Door"
43. Bob Dylan, "Subterranean Homesick Blues"
44. The Rolling Stones, "Satisfaction"
45. The Rolling Stones, "Brown Sugar"
46. The Rolling Stones, "Sympathy for the Devil"
47. Sex Pistols, "Anarchy in the UK"
48. Grateful Dead, "Sugar Magnolia"
49. The Pointer Sisters, "Slow Hand"
50. Eurythmics, "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)"
51. Elvis Presley, "Jailhouse Rock"
52. David Bowie, "Ziggy Stardust"
53. Bob Seger, "Night Moves"
54. The Everly Brothers, "Bye Bye Love"
55. Jimi Hendrix, "Purple Haze"
56. The Kinks, "Lola"
57. Jackson Browne, "Tender is the Night"
58. The Kingsmen, "Louie Louie"
59. George Thorogood and the Destroyers, "Bad to the Bone"
60. Metallica, "Turn the Page"
61. Lynryd Skynyrd, "Sweet Home Alabama"
62. Queen, "We Will Rock You"
63. The Allman Brothers Band, "Ramblin Man"
64. Led Zeppelin, "Rock 'n Roll"
65. Tina Turner, "Whats Love Got to Do With It"
66. Steppenwolf, "Born to Be Wild"
67. U2, "With or Without You"
68. Black Sabbath, "Paranoid"
69. Foreigner, "Blue Morning, Blue Day"
70. Billy Idol, "White Wedding"
71. Guns 'n Roses, "Sweet Child o Mine"
72. Guns 'n Roses, "Paradise City"
73. Guns 'n Roses, " Knockin on Heavens Door"*
74. Lou Reed, "Walk on the Wild Side"
75. Bad Company, "Feel Like Makin' Love"
76. Def Leppard, "Rock of Ages"
77. Van Morrison, "Brown Eyed Girl"
78. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, "Devil With a Blue Dress On"
79. Aretha Franklin, "Respect"
80. John Lee Hooker and Bonnie Raitt, "I'm in the Mood"
81. James Brown, "I Got You (I Feel Good)"
82. The Righteous Brothers, "Unchained Melody"
83. Prince, "Little Red Corvette"
84. Chuck Berry, "Roll Over Beethoven"
85. The Byrds, "Mr. Tambourine Man"
86. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, "Ohio"
87. Buddy Holly, "Peggy Sue"
88. Jerry Lee Lewis, "Great Balls of Fire"
89. Roy Orbison, "Oh, Pretty Woman"
90. Del Shannon, "Runaway"
91. Run-DMC, "Walk This Way"
92. Otis Redding, " (Sittin' on) the Dock of the Bay"
93. Nirvana, "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
94. Paul Simon, "Still Crazy After All These Years"
95. Bo Diddley, "Who Do You Love? "
96. Brewer and Shipley, "One Toke Over the Line"
97. Ramones, "I Wanna Be Sedated"
98. The Clash, "Should I Stay or Should I Go"
99. Talking Heads, "Burning Down the House"
100. Dmitri Shostakovich, "Jazz Suite No. 2: Waltz 2"
* Yeah, yeah, I know it's on the list twice.
Note: This playlist should be edited to include the Beach Boys if you're traveling the Pacific Coast Highway. And before you complain there are no Beatles on the list I should point out every seasoned traveler already has a complete Beatles songlist ready to go
Oh, and a hat tip to Lucus Davenport for the list, and I'm still waiting for Fucking Flowers to come up with his.
sop
(10,100 posts)"Runnin' Down a Dream." What the hell, keep both and dump something else.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Never liked ZZ Top, so I guess I'm ignorant?
Each of us would come up with our own list, based on our own taste in music.
Doesn't make those disagreeing ignorant.
ShazzieB
(16,273 posts)I never cared for ZZ Top, either, or a lot of other stuff that some regard as absolutely essental.
My ideal road trip play list would be heavy on Beatles, Beach Boys, CCR, Eagles, John Denver, and who knows what else. There would be no heavy metal, rap, or disco. Does that mean I'm ignorant, or that I think people whose play lists are full of stuff I don't like are ignorant? Hell, no.
Music is a very subjective thing. We all respond to different things.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Except for the Beatles. I thought they were OK, but I was not a BIG fan.
Felt the same about Elvis.
I'd want some Fleetwood Mac.
Klaralven
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Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,375 posts)Think of it as a work in progress.
Curious, I found my songlist from the sixties, but a lot of the songs, as spectular as they are, didn't make the road trip list. I'm thinking I need to insert a little more Creedence Clearwater Revival, and shoehorn in the Sons of Champlin.
If you remember the '60s, you really weren't there.
LexVegas
(6,030 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I think each of us could come up with our own list.
I'm reminded of a recent DU thread about the 'Greatest Era !"
I think we of differing ages may have had other eras we thought were greater.
DFW
(54,281 posts)What about this one from just after the 2016 election?
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)But Hey Ya is?
SMH
MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)Total snub.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Prince was robbed.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)From the top 10 I'd pull Fight the Power, Get Ur Freak On, Dreams and Hey Ya.
I'd move God Only Knows, Gimme Shelter, Waterloo Sunset and Purple Rain into the top 10.
Strange Fruit should be MUCH higher also. Maybe replace Waterloo Sunset in the Top 10.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)I like the way you think!
Roy Rolling
(6,908 posts)A printed magazine popular in the 1960s takes a poll of whoever to rate songs most of them never heard.
This isnt just a waste of time, its a fucking disservice to music artists who create masterpieces as works of art, not to be winners of a music poll.
Goodheart
(5,308 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Goodheart
(5,308 posts)Joni Mitchell's "Case of You" is listed at #26 or so.... it's a fine song, but remarkably obscure, while her best know work, "Both Sides Now", is one of the most covered songs of all time... like "Yesterday" or "Bridge Over Troubled Water".
Just what do they mean by "great", anyway? Some current staffer voted for his favorites, that's what.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)That would be my #1 -- love that song.
llmart
(15,532 posts)but it should be up in the top 10.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)But I agree the list is bogus
Free Man in Paris was a better JM choice
Goodheart
(5,308 posts)LeftInTX
(25,126 posts)Goodheart
(5,308 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Goodheart
(5,308 posts)Rolling Stone, KMA.
Celerity
(43,102 posts)In 1982 New Order released FAC 63, a new song called Temptation, on 7" and 12". Despite the fact that both versions claimed to be the original, they were different recordings. The rumor was that since the 7" version ended with a fade out, and the 12" version began with a fade-in, that the two songs were in fact two halves of a 14-minute long original version. I've always wanted to test this theory out, so here's the two versions of the track faded together to form the longest version of "Temptation" out there.
You'll notice that the production sound changes around the 5 minute mark as the 7" version transitions into the 12". So are they two halves of the same recording or are they just two entirely different takes?
Goodheart
(5,308 posts)Yesterday it was Bizarre Love Triangle, today it's Temptation, tomorrow it will probably be True Faith.
Goodheart
(5,308 posts)If so, thanks!
Celerity
(43,102 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)But "Perfect Kiss," "True Faith," and "Blue Monday" are better. Temptation and Triangle are 4 and 5 though.
Iggo
(47,534 posts)Ace Of Spades is the greatest rock song of all time, bar none.
Celerity
(43,102 posts)bronxiteforever
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USALiberal
(10,877 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)themaguffin
(3,816 posts)Missy Elliott's song is certainly catchy - it was (and is) popular and the video really was something....
but its place on the list is more about her and the video.
The Beatles I want to Hold Your Hand is iconic, but more so because of their Ed Sullivan appearance.
Most people would dozens of Beatles songs above it.
Dreams is great. It was a number one hit and popular as far back as I can remember... but never thought of it as one of THE best songs ever - yeah, it's great, but top ten all time great?
That's RS curating the list for the Tiktok crowd.
maxrandb
(15,295 posts)not in the top 20?
At least one of those from the Greatest Live Band in the effing world should be there
deurbano
(2,894 posts)that artist), but surely he deserves a top 20 spot as a performer in his own right. I mean, I chose his music to play in the background as I was giving BIRTH. That's how strong my love is (for him).
lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)Should have been higher. Kris and Janis both had outstanding versions.
Roger Miller did good with the original.
GoodRaisin
(8,908 posts)In Memory of Elizabeth Reed - Fillmore East Version
ThunderRoad
(28 posts)Only question I have is, where is Thunder Road?
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)I think Born to Run is Springsteen's highest, then Thunder Road, Jungleland and Rosalita. There may be others, but those are the ones that stood out to me.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)It won't work: they're a Rockist Boomer magazine.
My local alt-rock station, KEXP, did the same after BLM protests. They added African-American DJs who play Hip Hop and what I call "Alt-R&B". I don't like melismatic singing, never have, but I'm a late-era Boomer ('63), so I know they're not playing music for me anyway. They want the youth to tune in.
I remember Missy guesting on Katy Perry's Superbowl show (2016), and my (now 30 year old) niece calling me up "Missy's on! No one here knows who she is except me, because you put her on a mix CD for me!" Holla!
yardwork
(61,538 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)edhopper
(33,479 posts)apparently.
LeftInTX
(25,126 posts)But I don't think it will work
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)There will never be consensus on something as absurd as the "500 greatest songs of all time".
De Gustibus non Disputadem.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Rolling Stone writers just compiled the list and blurbed the songs.
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tavernier
(12,368 posts)and loudly laughing. (Although Aretha was his #1 as well)
ecstatic
(32,652 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)And while I've heard Respect, it doesn't really do it for me.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I would have thought all the top 20 would be instantly recognizable.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)This list looks overly PC to me. Rap, Latino pop, and Country are not Rock And Roll.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)And why is it "PC" to include songs by AA and Latino artists?
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edhopper
(33,479 posts)but not unexpected from the folks behind the "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame.
SYFROYH
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If the editors felt that they had to make a nod to our nordic brothers and sisters, I can't believe they chose Robyn over ABBA.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)Covering it.
BannonsLiver
(16,294 posts)It sucked in 2004 and it sucks now. Also, that Missy Elliott song sucks too. Annoyingly so. My ears are bleeding just thinking about those songs. And Robyn? What the ever loving f***?
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jalan48
(13,841 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,216 posts)But not very high on the list. Traditional "rock and roll" took a beating in this list. I do not agree, obviously.
jalan48
(13,841 posts)generates controversy and increases readership.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Thanks for posting the list!
albacore
(2,398 posts)She brought us this brilliant set of lyrics, full of insight and pathos:
You a stupid hoe, you a, you a stupid hoe
You a stupid hoe, you a, you a stupid hoe
You a stupid hoe, you a, you a stupid hoe
You a stupid hoe, yeah, you a, you a stupid hoe
You a stupid hoe, you a, you a stupid hoe (you stupid, stupid)
You a stupid hoe, you a, you a stupid hoe (you stupid, stupid)
You a stupid hoe, you a, you a stupid hoe (you stupid, stupid)
You a stupid hoe, yeah, you a, you a stupid hoe (you stupid, stupid)
llmart
(15,532 posts)I think I had the first issue. It was geared towards boomers like myself. I see this list as them trying to remain relevant as my generation dies off.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)ruet
(10,037 posts)The faux-metal hacks? I sure hope not.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)Heavy Metal. He has an incredible voice. He is classically trained. I don't like heavy metal. It's too violent for me.
Go on YouTube and listen to this cover that he did on Conan's show. Do the live version.
At least give it a chance.
ruet
(10,037 posts)I'd say it was a competent, if not slightly insulting, cover. I say "slightly insulting" because I not a huge fan of covers. ...not because of who it is.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)because even the classically trained musicians thought
It was wonderful. I am classically trained.
ruet
(10,037 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)His grandfather was an Hasidic Jew. He was the cantor at rhe largest synagogue in Chicago. David grew up Orthodox and went to Talmudic schools and he trained to be a cantor. But of course it was a terrible fit. They are so ultra conservative and he wasn't. He is very protective of his Jewish history. I really admire him for that. He had a really difficult time.
Voice coaches are amazed by his voice. He has about a three octave range and he has perfect pitch. His voice floats right on the top of rhe notes and he never misses. And he never pushes. His control is amazing. He moves through that entire range just effortlessly. He can move from that pure simple sound to that gritty sound and back again just like it's no big deal. That is incredibly difficult to do.
The heavy metal people all know him and they were so surprised that he can actually sing like that. It's funny to hear their reactions.
orleans
(34,040 posts)LeftInTX
(25,126 posts)With regards to Don't Fear the Reaper: "Rolling Stone voted this the best of 1976"...,
Then I see, "She's Gone" by Hall and Oates at 336.
How did a lame annoying, flip the dial, song beat out "Don't Fear the Reaper"?
"Welcome to the Jungle" is 491 and "Stand by Your Man" is 473..WTF???
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Shellback Squid
(8,914 posts)Polybius
(15,334 posts)That is absolutely insane. It's an ok song but not even top 20 of of the early 2000's. And where is Hallelujah? That's a top 3 song. And no American Pie? Putrid top 20 list.
miyazaki
(2,239 posts)Captain Stern
(2,199 posts)Of course, It's not the same as my list, but it's still great.
Musical taste is subjective. I appreciate seeing songs listed that I'd never listened to...and that I will now make a point of listening too.
That said...WTF?!?..no 'Happy Birthday' (most famous song ever), and where the fuck is 'Baby Shark'?, and the Beatles should have like 100 songs on this list. And how is 'Dreams' by Fleetwood Mac #9 when it isn't even the best song by Fleetwood Mac?!?