President Obama has waged more war than any previous Nobel Peace Laureate except Kissinger!

[TransitJohn]

Last edited Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:07 PM - Edit history (1)

[tridim]

1. He has ended more wars than he has "waged"

Oh how I miss Unrec.

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. +1

[SidDithers]

7. +1...nt

Sid

[ddeclue]

26. Nope.. the war in Iraq is still going on with our mercenaries instead of our Army and Obama didn't

end that war we were told to leave by the Iraqi government.

[bhikkhu]

36. If an embassy with security guards constitutes war...

then just about every country on the planet is at war with just about every other country.

I don't see how shifting the goalposts from "end the war and bringing all the troops home" to "close the embassy and bring home the diplomats and guards too" accomplishes anything.

[NYC Liberal]

32. Yep. Unrec in spirit.

[alittlelark]

2. Nice strawman n/t

[CrispyQ]

19. +1

My first thought when I read the story about the recent defense cuts was, that drones are a cheaper way to wage war, especially for a nation with our balance sheet.

It is very troubling.

[spanone]

5. bwahahahahahaaa

[DisgustipatedinCA]

6. Yes. Peace, jester.

Peace.

[Sheepshank]

8. do you have a comparative list?

it would be helpful to bolster your talking point.

At this point, I can't tell if you are joking or serious and the premis of the OP.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Kinda like giving Ken Lay the "Ethics in Business" award.

[Mr Dixon]

10. IMO

This is a Yawn topic

[liberal N proud]

11. What war did he wage?

He inherited wars and has ended wars, but I can't think of one he has "waged" to date.

[Puzzledtraveller]

12. mary jane?

[joeybee12]

13. Difference between waging and starting...Bush started them...

Obama continued to wage them...there's also Libya.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Tunisia.

[liberal N proud]

24. Those were wars waged by bu$h and Cheney

He inherited them.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. He's still waging them.

Of course, acknowledging that we lost them is not a good campaign message.

[liberal N proud]

27. He is trying to end them

You noticed Iraq I hope!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. And, the killing is still going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. Last I looked

Bush started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and dumped both of them on Obama, who vowed to end both of them during the 2008 campaign but made it clear that it would not be immediately, which I thought was reasonable. Our military involvement in Libya was in support of NAT and limited to air support. We never put any boots on the ground. What other wars are you referring to? Moreover, we are out of Iraq now and will be out of Afghanistan in 2014. Bush let both wars drag on for 7-8 years (Afghanistan) and 5-6 (Iraq) with no willingness to consider any timetables for ending either of them (well, at least until the very end in regards to Iraq).

[AtomicKitten]

15. Fun fact: He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on securing loose nukes.

[FSogol]

16. Fuck Ron Paul.

[TransitJohn]

33. Why do you keep posting that in my threads? eom

n/t

[whatchamacallit]

18. As he's an adherent of the fraudulent war on terror

the wars, in one form or another, will continue.

[ProSense]

20. Obama

joins the ranks of President who ended a war, and will likely become a President who ends two major wars.

He is also the first President to end a defense system and take serious action to rein in nuclear materials, which is what earned him the Nobel Prize.

He also put forward a new strategic vision for the military:

Obama Puts His Stamp on Strategy for a Leaner Military
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/us/obama-at-pentagon-to-outline-cuts-and-strategic-shifts.html

In fact, his proposals are more tangible than the propaganda that Ron Paul has been pushing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002155700

[TransitJohn]

34. How is Ron Paul germane to the OP?

n/t

[cthulu2016]

21. False (unless you're relying on trick definitions)

One can say that only the commander in chief can be said to wage war and that is what it is.

In terms of the real political meaning of the statement, though, I'd say Kissinger has Obama beat.

[TransitJohn]

35. Good point about Kissinger, I'd forgotten about him.

Edited OP.

[Broderick]

22. I see it differently

I think he has taken a completely different approach and got out of the Iraq quagmire in the process.

But I fear the war drums by the military industrial complex are beating hard for Iran. I can't support any war on Iran.

[Scurrilous]

23. More than Teddy "I should welcome almost any war, for I think this country needs one" Roosevelt?

[think]

29. To be fair I've always thought of Obama's nobel prize as the world"s way of saying

"Thank God you are not George Bush!"

[treestar]

30. No, he wound down one war and will wind down the other

Bush started both of them.

The Peace Price is not about who has the least to do with the war, or they'd have given it to me.

[jody]

31. NWO speak -- "Hate is Love" and "War is Peace'. nt