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brooklynite

(94,327 posts)
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:26 AM Oct 2021

OUR REVOLUTION sent an email raising funds to Primary Senator Sinema.

Whatever you think of her, you’ll have a hard time convincing me that their preferred candidate would be competitive in a General Election.

(Also there’s the fact that she’s not up until 2024, but why spoil a good fundraising opportunity?)

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Budi

(15,325 posts)
3. Just for the sake of info, here's what both Manchin & Sinema's districts look like
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:48 AM
Oct 2021

An interesting data chart on both Sinema & Manchin's last electoral districts.

Perhaps it helps define where these 2 stand in comparison to their districts.
I knew they were both from Red districts, just didn't realize what a task they actually pulled off in that election.

So just for the sake of info:

Here's Manchin:






Here's Sinema:




The hostile narrative of OR's fundraising emails will never unite a coalition as Sinema had, to pull off a win in 2024.
But they'll raise oodles of cash in the next 3 years while they burn it all down.

Any chance we had will be split & hand that seat to the Republican candidate.
Especially if Sinema runs again as an Independent.


Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
11. I don't think using congressional district maps is an accurate predictor of senate races
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:04 AM
Oct 2021

Senators are elected by the total statewide vote, not by winning the most districts. Some districts have way more people than other more rural districts.

AZ is a purple state, turning blue. Sinema must go in 2024.

Ace Rothstein

(3,141 posts)
12. Kelly and Sinema both come from AZ.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:08 AM
Oct 2021

I'd gladly take another Kelly over someone like her. Let's not settle for Sinema.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Yes, they both represent red states. Our Revolution splinters away
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:00 AM
Oct 2021

support from all Democratic candidates, though.

They and others of their type push the Democrats as "corrupt corporatists." Democrats are "elitists" living high off the public hog in DC, but this week they're abandoning enormous legislation to go home and play golf.

They're attacking Sinema this week, but she's a gift to their messaging because she is a Democrat who is selling out, moving to big business support for security in a red state.

So expect Sinema's new RW investors to, as usual, try to maximize the effects of Our Revolution, though not a friend, to defeat their Democratic opponents, just as they did in 2016, 2018, and 2020.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. :) Oh, yes. I'll even be donating to our best Democrat in the primary too,
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:46 AM
Oct 2021

We need a really good candidate. Her election was a squeaker in red AZ, and she got the mainstream Democratic vote in the GE. But I've read that for many that was because she won the primary and was the only choice.

This is from an AZ Republican:

“We’ve watched a very skilled political woman who has grown into and had her eye on the ball for a long time of what she wanted. She likes to say now that she’s evolved over time. I think she’s disguised over time."

On the plus side, a Democratic Party candidate flipped this seat in 2018, so keeping it Democratic should be even more possible in 2024.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
9. Our revolution doesn't pick good winning candidates. I'll be donating to Crowdpac
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:25 AM
Oct 2021

Sinema does need to be primaried. Also, 2024 is only 3 years away. It can take 3 years to find a good candidate and build a campaign.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Crowdpac's support of Sinema illustrates the good and bad of their model.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:32 AM
Oct 2021

Good: They got Sinema elected on a Democratic ticket in a red state. Groundbreaking!

Bad: They focus on getting unknown, political "outsider" candidates elected. (Hey, but that's what's good about them!)

This is hardly the first or 1000th time "outsider" candidates turned out different from what they told voters they were. Or we find out why insiders turned down outsider requests for support. The worst are those who are ideologically different from those they lied to to get their votes, and smart ones can remain for an entire career. (It's looking as if Sinema has chosen to stay.) The weirds, incompetents and crooks at least tend to be easier to get rid of, if they don't self destruct first.

Of course, no doubt Crowdpac sometimes funds unknowns great records and achievements in other fields, to our benefit. For me, though, if there's no previous experience in government and no record to scrutinize for The Real Person, they'd better be running for an entry level position where inexperienced is normal, and with a few short terms to try them out. Governor or senator? Hate it when one wins the primary and is the only choice.

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