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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,739 posts)
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:17 PM Oct 2021

Senate Democrats dial down the Manchin tension

Senate Democrats are trying to turn down the temperature after days of high-profile drama and a delay of the bipartisan infrastructure bill in the House.

The House broke on Friday after days of intense, hours-long meetings without an agreement on a path forward on the Senate-passed infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill, which is supposed to carry many of Democrats' long-held policy ambitions.

The standoff on Capitol Hill sparked a proxy war between "the Squad" and Senate moderates, with leadership stuck in the middle trying to figure out a way to satisfy them both. But Senate Democrats, including progressives in the caucus, are largely avoiding piling on against Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.).

"We are in negotiations with all Democrats. Everyone is trying to row in the same direction," said Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), when asked if she was surprised or frustrated by Manchin's $1.5 trillion top-line figure that's $2 trillion short of what Biden and other Democrats have been pursuing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-democrats-dial-down-the-manchin-tension/ar-AAP3VsX

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Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. Dont lose sight folks, the ENTIRE republican party are voting AGAINST the survival
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:25 PM
Oct 2021

of America and the planet yet somehow it is the Dems fault.

This is why we are a broken society. Nothing makes sense anymore.

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
7. A GREAT point!
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:42 PM
Oct 2021

No matter WHAT the Dems do, they will be against it and the failure will be on the Dems..... (as THEY see it)

jimfields33

(15,688 posts)
9. 38 voted for the infrastructure bill
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:45 PM
Oct 2021

I wish we’d get that going. How many more ridges have to fall before we get it done. Yes I’m know they want the other bill too. I understand that they feel it won’t pass if the other does. I just think releasing trillions on the states at once is going to be a project upon itself. Look how well the rental assistance is going and that was pennies compared to what’s coming.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
3. Really? Since when. Last I checked, like the last 5 minutes, Manchin Hate is NOT dialing down.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:32 PM
Oct 2021

"Senate Democrats, including progressives in the caucus, are largely avoiding piling on against Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.)."

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
4. I'm not sure yet why we are supposed to kiss Man-chins ass.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:35 PM
Oct 2021

He’s given every indication he won’t cooperate.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. I can think a a few more asses we should not be kissing ...
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:40 PM
Oct 2021

..as tho they were great guru's of wisdom.

Maybe in his meeting Biden told them all to STFU.

He should have!

They should be censored for the Big Corporate Media shit show they've created.

Nictuku

(3,587 posts)
5. So where does that put the Debt Ceiling Limit Raise?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:37 PM
Oct 2021

Here is what is probably going to happen:

The Debt Ceiling needs to be raised before 10/18.

They are on freaking vacation until (the 14th ? 2 weeks from yesterday). So they will have 2 days.

The Republicans already voted against it, and not only that, they freaking filibustered it so it couldn't even come up for debate on the Senate floor.

They are on Record, voting No against protecting the full and faithful credit of the United States of America.

So here is what is going to probably happen:

They are going to put the Debt Ceiling (a MUST PASS) item, into the Reconciliation Bill. On or before 10/18. I'm sure they have already done what is needed to get it included, or at least start the process so the Senate Parliamentarian can approve it.

I know that Pelosi and Schumer have said over and over they wanted the Debt Ceiling to be bi-partisan, but when given the chance to vote on just that alone, the R's blocked it so it could not even come to the floor for debate and a vote. (motherfers)

This way, with the 10/31 date for the Bi partisan infrastructure bill, the Reconciliation will already be done.

I guess we shall see. In my mind's eye, it seems like some brilliant play on Nancy Pelosi's part, but I guess that kind of depends on how much they have to remove from the bill (they should rename it to the Don't Kill America bill, or Put the Children First bill)


PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
11. "So they will have 2 days." - They can come back earlier with "72 hours notice"...
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:50 PM
Oct 2021

From: https://www.majorityleader.gov/content/floor-schedule-update-1011

FLOOR SCHEDULE UPDATE – VOTES IN OCTOBER
Floor Update: Oct 1, 2021 - 8:16 pm
LEADER'S FLOOR UPDATE

Members are advised that no further votes are expected this week.

The House will meet for Committee Work during the weeks of October 4th and October 11th.

Members are further advised that should there be significant legislation requiring House action prior to the legislative week of October 18th, Members will be given 72-hours' notice of when to return to Washington, D.C.
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