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Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:07 PM Oct 2021

Andrew Yang Forms 'Inclusive' 3rd Party THE FORWARD PARTY

Andrew Yang Forms 'Inclusive' 3rd Party
Key principles include universal basic income and 'grace and tolerance'

Andrew Yang wants to overhaul politics, from the two-party system to political campaigns, as he writes in a new book out Tuesday. In the final chapter of Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy, the former Democratic presidential and New York City mayoral candidate reveals the name of a third party he's founded, reports Business Insider. The Forward Party involves six key principles of "ranked-choice voting and open primaries"; "fact-based governance"; "human-centered capitalism"; "effective and modern-day government"; "universal basic income" and "grace and tolerance." And "it's inclusive," Yang tells the New York Times.

Without it, "the dysfunction is going to kill us," Yang writes in his book, per Insider. "The two sides will be trapped in a war that both sides win—they will still be hovering in one of the most affluent areas in the country trading power—but the people will lose." In an excerpt shared by Politico, Yang dives into the problems of power, noting it makes people "more impulsive, more reckless and less able to see things from others' points of view." In presidential politics, "the job was simply the seeking of attention" and "the people around me treated me as either a celebrity or a product that hundreds of staffers were focused on selling," he writes.

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Andrew Yang Forms 'Inclusive' 3rd Party THE FORWARD PARTY (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2021 OP
One day we will have up to six different parties, jimfields33 Oct 2021 #1
No we won't because at that point, we will be under a dictatorship. The GOP would Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #5
It is basically impossible, as the American Constitution mandates a first past the post, plurality- Celerity Oct 2021 #10
Beware of Trojan Horses Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #2
That's true mvd Oct 2021 #16
I don't even understand why this is posted here...he barely won any vote...and now he Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #3
It's posted here to keep us informed of what's going on around us. groundloop Oct 2021 #9
It has been my experience that third party voters hate Democrats and generally vote GOP if Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #11
We don't need a third party viva la Oct 2021 #4
Just speculating but: what are the odds that the Yang Party nominee for President in 24 is Yang? brooklynite Oct 2021 #6
Lol Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #13
I am sure Mr Yang will receive much financial support ...from Republicans. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #7
Sorry, Yang. I was once a fan but now you're venturing into Jill Stein territory... brush Oct 2021 #8
Ladies and gentlemen, your next Jill Stein! Where can Russia FSogol Oct 2021 #12
Shouldn't you get the reforms to make your 3rd party viable Johonny Oct 2021 #14
I like to see Yang and Caitlyn Jenner together on a Dustbin ticket. nt oasis Oct 2021 #15
Seeing the Backside of the Forward Party LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #17
I'm sure he didn't mean it that way. I'm pretty sure he didn't know what he meant. The Forward Party Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #18
I never took Andrew Yang to be a serious candidate LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #19

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
5. No we won't because at that point, we will be under a dictatorship. The GOP would
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:17 PM
Oct 2021

be more than happy to help us snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I suggest we all vote for
Democrats as is our lives depend on it...because it does. And this is Democratic underground, This should not be posted here.

Celerity

(43,134 posts)
10. It is basically impossible, as the American Constitution mandates a first past the post, plurality-
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:28 PM
Oct 2021

based, single member district form of representational federal government. There is no proportional representation mechanism. The losing party or parties win no representation at all.

The American system will always end up in a 2 party system by default.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,554 posts)
2. Beware of Trojan Horses
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:11 PM
Oct 2021

IIRC, Yang’s UBI was in lieu of any other government benefits. No food stamps, no Medicaid, no unemployment, just $1000 a month to try and survive on. If you didn’t save your UBI while you were working, tough luck.

mvd

(65,162 posts)
16. That's true
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:07 PM
Oct 2021

I support progressive UBI as a way to combat poverty, but $1,000 isn’t enough to not need other government assistance. I was glad to hear him try to get UBI into the mainstream, but his way of implementing it was not the right way IMO.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
3. I don't even understand why this is posted here...he barely won any vote...and now he
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:13 PM
Oct 2021

thinks he should start his own party? I am sick of this sort of thing...it has never been more true...we need unity. You think multiple parties work, take a look at Britain. They have been under the thumb of the right for more than a generation. Screw Yang and his Party. Perhaps we should call the Party the 'sore loser' party. All third parties ever do is screw Democrats. We would have a different world had the Greens not helped elect Bush II and Trump.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
9. It's posted here to keep us informed of what's going on around us.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:25 PM
Oct 2021

If we don't keep our eyes open to challenges, threats, GQP lies of the day, etc. etc. we won't be prepared to have meaningful discussions with our family, friends, and neighbors who might not be as well informed as most DUers.

However, I too don't see Yang's little hissy fit attempt at getting attention as a serious threat. Hopefully I'm not underestimating him, but the only person I know who supported him in the last election is a regular GQP voter.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
11. It has been my experience that third party voters hate Democrats and generally vote GOP if
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:31 PM
Oct 2021

not voting for their so-called party...a great example is Sinema who ran as a Democrat but was a Green for years..she sure doesn't seem to have much love for the party.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
7. I am sure Mr Yang will receive much financial support ...from Republicans.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:21 PM
Oct 2021

Personally, I detest all third Parties except those that hurt Republicans of course.

brush

(53,743 posts)
8. Sorry, Yang. I was once a fan but now you're venturing into Jill Stein territory...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:22 PM
Oct 2021

since you've lost two high-profile Democratic Party primaries...for the presidency and for the mayor of New York.

Maybe try actually running for office, winning and getting governing/legislative experience at a lower level than THE HIGHEST EFFIN' OFFICES IN THE LAND.

So now you take your ball and go home to start a third party that will, if it comes to fruition, siphon off votes from Dem candidates which will help republicans win.

Like I said, you're venturing into Jill Stein territory.

Johonny

(20,820 posts)
14. Shouldn't you get the reforms to make your 3rd party viable
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:21 PM
Oct 2021

and then form it?

He couldn't get elected mayor. He is not a serious candidate or politician.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,945 posts)
17. Seeing the Backside of the Forward Party
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:53 PM
Aug 2022

I have never been impressed with Andrew Yang nor have I have never understood his appeal. He has no real platform or political accomplishments, The Forward Party appears to be a scam that really is only designed to help TFG



https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/forward-party-andrew-yang-trump/

haven’t written about the Forward Party, founded by the adrift Yang, who ran for president as a Democrat, ran for New York mayor as a Democrat, failed spectacularly at both, and then decided the problem wasn’t him or his politics or his communication skills—it was the Democratic Party.

He found two older, retired Republicans, former Florida representative David Jolly and former New Jersey governor Christine Todd Whitman, to give him bipartisan cover for what is essentially an attack on Democrats. Because the law of third-party dynamics is: The party the new group is closest to is the party that will suffer if the new group gathers mass. Obviously, that party is the Democrats.

Yang’s sympathetic Trump tweet reminds us that third-party dreams are usually the essence of bothsidesism. Both sides are too extreme; we alone can fix it. Yang’s attempt to vocalize what “millions of Americans” will see as “unjust persecution” is typical for a third-party leader.

Worse, though, is the fact that everyone who covers the far right is seeing growing threats of violence in response to the Mar-a-Lago raid. In his efforts to stay in power, the former president has obviously broken the law. But he and his minions clearly believe that he is above the law and that there is no legitimacy to whatever case the Justice Department might be assembling. There is informed speculation that the raid was to retrieve serious national security documents.

For Yang to even glancingly endorse the notion that the FBI might have unfairly targeted Trump is just one more log on the fire of violent white nationalist extremism. I’m sure he didn’t mean it that way. I’m pretty sure he didn’t know what he meant. The Forward Party is already in my rearview mirror.

Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
18. I'm sure he didn't mean it that way. I'm pretty sure he didn't know what he meant. The Forward Party
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:12 AM
Aug 2022
I’m sure he didn’t mean it that way. I’m pretty sure he didn’t know what he meant. The Forward Party is already in my rearview mirror.

Ouch!!😛
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