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The historian Allen C. Guelzo is a self-described Yankee partisan. In a dozen books on the Civil War and Reconstruction, he has portrayed the Union cause as a righteous enterprise. In the very first sentence of his newest work, he charges Robert E. Lee with treason. This is not a warm recounting of Lees life. Still, if Guelzo is critical of Lee, he does not withhold praise when the circumstances justify it. By the end of the book, Guelzo chooses not to pursue the case against Lee for his treasonous choice to make war on the United States.
While the tenor of Robert E. Lee is far from that of the 1935 Pulitzer Prize-winning four-volume paean to Lee written by the journalist Douglas Southall Freeman, it is also not a biographical takedown in the style of Thomas L. Connellys The Marble Man (1977). Nor is Guelzos work the evenhanded portrait offered by Emory Thomas in Robert E. Lee: A Biography (1995), the best Lee biography currently in print
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Journeyman
(15,026 posts)Like most people and especially those who rise to positions of decision and power Robert E. Lee was an extremely complicated individual. Brilliant in some ways, Ive never understood the mythos that arose around him during the rebellion. Oh certainly, he made some extraordinary tactical maneuvers, and won some battles he should have surely lost, but he made a disproportionate number of blunders as well, many of which cost him and the South much more than they could afford to lose and hope to prevail in their insurrection.
The ill-fated charge on the third day at Gettysburg is but one of many examples, though surely it is the most remembered.
For all his efforts, however, it is well to keep in mind that slavery was ultimately vanquished from our land because of Robert E. Lee. It is one of those supremely ironic situations that doesnt get near enough recognition.
Up until the time Lee took command of the Army of Northern Virginia (June 1862) it was Mr Lincolns stated objective that if the South ceased its rebellion, and submitted again to Union control, then slavery would remain as it had been prior to the rebellion. The original 13th Amendment, the Corwin Amendment (after the Ohio Congressman who proposed it), held that slavery was to be unmolested in perpetuity. President Lincoln himself endorsed this idea in his First Inaugural. (1)
It was Robert E. Lees success against far superior Union forces in the Seven Days Battles that sealed the Souths fate and slaverys demise. In driving the Army of the Potomac back, Lee turned Confederate morale around, and its soldiers took to battle with renewed purpose. That summer, however, convinced Mr Lincoln that every tactic needed to be deployed against the rebellion, including denial of its labor force and the eventual use of black soldiers by the Union armies. The die was cast -- by Robert E. Lee -- and the result was eventual total war and the destruction of Southern social and political order.
And there was another aspect of Lee that doesnt get enough recognition, the idea that he saved the Union from a good deal of misery and unreconcilable destruction in the years after Appomattox.
In April 1865: The Month that Saved America, author Jay Winik details the enormous debt we owe Lee for the manner in which he surrendered. A lesser man may have given his men carte blanche to resort to guerrilla warfare and indiscriminate terror (and some Confederate commanders did), but Lee consistently held that his men should return to their families and fields, and energetically campaigned in the aftermath of the rebellion that reconciliation was in the best interest of everyone South and North, freemen all.
All said and done, then, and pursued strictly from an historical stance, Robert E. Lee remains a deeply flawed, complex individual. His treason, however, as Guelzo so prominently presents it at the onset of his work, must remain the defining aspect of his character.
(1) "I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitutionwhich amendment, however, I have not seenhas passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. To avoid misconstruction of what I have said, I depart from my purpose not to speak of particular amendments so far as to say that, holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable. ~ President Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural, March 4, 1861
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,253 posts)are you the author of that entire post?
Mr.Bill
(24,253 posts)Very good writing. You must be like completely sober.
Journeyman
(15,026 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,253 posts)I'm up to eight hours.
ProfessorGAC
(64,877 posts)He did the exact same thing, with the exact same result 6-8 weeks after Gettysburg in Virginia.
He didn't even adjust tactics AFTER Pickett's charge.
Polybius
(15,337 posts)He was insanely popular in the South even though he lost. Imagine his popularity had he won?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)This would be an interesting follow-up book.
Sneederbunk
(14,279 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)bluewater
(5,376 posts)leading to tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of additional deaths.
Lee was a traitor and enslaver and egomaniac.
RFCalifornia
(440 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,279 posts)The Last Years by Charles Flood (Lee after the war) and Reading the Man by Elizabeth Pryor (Lee's letters).
Celerity
(43,138 posts)A gargantuan monument to the rebel general will come down in the capital of the Confederacy.
https://newrepublic.com/article/163557/bye-bye-robert-e-lee-richmond-statue
Last Thursday, the Virginia Supreme Court ruled that a statue honouring one of the greatest traitors the U.S. has ever produced can, at long last, come down. The state of Virginia may now begin to disassemble the behemoth sculpture honouring Confederate general Robert E. Lee that resides on the citys fabled Monument Avenue, on which statuary to Confederate luminaries (and much later, after considerable discord, homegrown Black tennis superstar Arthur Ashe) has long stood. While the timeline for the ultimate removal is yet to be determined, as Gov. Ralph Northam said upon the announcement of the courts ruling: Today it is clearthe largest Confederate monument in the South is coming down.
The impending removal of Lees statue is hardly a panacea for ongoing racial strife in the U.S., not least after the past few years of a president who fractured race relations in unprecedented ways. It is, however, a chance to dismantle the hagiography surrounding a man who commanded troops to slaughter tens of thousands of American soldiers, all in pursuit of shattering the U.S. while expanding the enslavement of millions of Americans. It is a chance to finally place Lee among the pantheon of our nations most malignant enemies.
The Richmond statue to Leeclocking in at six stories high, and some twelve tons in weightisnt simply the most prominent piece of Confederate remembrance still standing in the United States. When the statue was initially erected in 1890, in front of over a hundred thousand onlookers, it represented a clear turn in the burgeoning growth of Lost Cause mythologizing. As historian David Blight writes in Race and Reunion, More than ghosts emerged from the Richmond unveiling of 1890; a new, more dynamic Lost Cause was thrown into bold relief as well. With the unveiling of Lees statue, mewling protests about Northern aggression had given way to muscular Confederate memorializationwith national reconciliation, added Blight, now dependent upon the dead leader of the cause that lost. Gone were the days of faction and friction among white Americans, replaced by a white supremacist comity and Jim Crow regime built under the shadow of Lees new statuea state of affairs that would last decades, entrenching an American apartheid of which Lee would have heartily approved.
Its not as if Lees rank treason is any kind of secret. Lee may not have been as histrionic as some of the human enslavers leading state governments into the Confederacy, or as colourful as some of the other former American military officials who elected to lead the Confederacys white supremacist insurrection. In many ways, that distance remains part of Lees ongoing appeal. Bathed in alleged honour, clad in supposed chivalry, Lee, for decades, has stood as man more sinned against than sinninga supposed titan of gentlemanly warfare swept against his will into the tempest of his times; the avatar of a willingness to stand in defence of ones principles, however blinkered (and treasonous) they may be. As W.E.B. Du Bois once wrote, It is the punishment of the South that its Robert Lees will always be tall, handsome and well-born. That their courage will be physical and not moral. Du Bois is precisely correct. Rather than joining the hundreds of thousands of white Americans across the South who remained loyal to the U.S. during the Confederacys short-lived fratricide, Lee elected to join a traitorous band of effete, elite white Southerners bent on imploding the U.S., carving out new slavery territories across the American West and expanding chattel slavery as far as they could.
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obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)It is mindboggling Mary Surratt hanged and neither of those two did.
RFCalifornia
(440 posts)What good is a law against treason if it's not enforced?
crickets
(25,952 posts)oasis
(49,338 posts)"Lee's Charge" because it was totally his idea. :
bluewater
(5,376 posts)I wonder who did the re-branding on that? The same Confederate apologists that started "The Lost Cause" mythology perhaps?
oasis
(49,338 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,221 posts)He launched two major offensives, the Maryland campaign of 1862 and the Gettysburg campaign of 1863. Both ended in defeat after the first major engagement.
Depending on whether or not you consider the South Mountain engagement a battle, the Maryland campaign included two defeats in a row.
He's been idolized as a military genius for a long time, but I think that is bunk.