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marble falls

(56,996 posts)
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:51 PM Oct 2021

Kyrsten Sinema's bathroom protest was a long time coming

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/kyrsten-sinema-s-bathroom-protest-was-long-time-coming-n1280763

Kyrsten Sinema's bathroom protest was a long time coming

The Kyrsten Sinema of 2003 would have been among the activists protesting her at Arizona State University.

-snip-

“Yesterday’s behavior was not legitimate protest,” Sinema wrote. Leaving aside that Sinema doesn’t get to set the terms of how her constituents hold her accountable, you know who would have likely applauded those activists’ tactics? A young Kyrsten Sinema, the one who didn’t mind calling out Democrats who are more interested in obtaining power than in using it to advance their values.

During the last few weeks, a tidal wave of ink has been spilled as we all try to figure out, in brief, what Sinema’s deal is. Why is the first-term senator acting as a roadblock to passing President Joe Biden’s agenda? What’s driving her? Political donors’ priorities? A misreading of the Arizona electorate? Is she lining up a lobbying gig after her term ends? Does she have a raging case of McCain Maverick Syndrome?

But the here’s the biggest question of them all: What sparked Sinema’s transformation from a Green Party activist into a centrist who may derail one of the largest, most progressive bills we’re likely to see during Biden’s presidency?

-snip-

In her youth, Sinema was part of the antiwar movement ahead of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. And at the time, she had no tolerance for Democrats who would support the coming war:

When hawkish and conservative-leaning Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman passed through Tucson during his presidential campaign in 2003, Sinema led a caravan of activists to protest outside his event. “He’s a shame to Democrats,” she told a reporter. “I don’t even know why he’s running. He seems to want to get Republicans voting for him—what kind of strategy is that?”

Big snip.

The last line is great, about the young Sinema would never vote for the new Sinema.

I fear she's more a Green, than a Democrat. There are a lot politically conservative Greens.

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Kyrsten Sinema's bathroom protest was a long time coming (Original Post) marble falls Oct 2021 OP
Following women into the bathroom is ok when our team does it Loki Liesmith Oct 2021 #1
And the other women filmed in the bathroom were her fault FBaggins Oct 2021 #2
Bathrooms should be a place to shit and change clothes. jimfields33 Oct 2021 #5
on Morning Joe, they said the person filming the girl talking to Sinema was a Sinema staffer Celerity Oct 2021 #26
Ah. Ok. Makes more sense. jimfields33 Oct 2021 #32
I never said that. But if your representative will not listen to you or call townhalls, what ... marble falls Oct 2021 #13
They didn't follow her into the stall. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #16
The problem is that filming in a bathroom is now the issue that's front and center ... Earth-shine Oct 2021 #3
on Morning Joe they said the person filming the girl talking to Sinema was a Sinema staffer Celerity Oct 2021 #27
As long as she avoids and stonewalls constituents, Sinema should expect this treatment. Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #4
Then the chasing her into the bathroom becomes the story Ex Lurker Oct 2021 #31
Looks like Sen. Sinema's feeble attempt to dodge her constituents didn't work gratuitous Oct 2021 #6
I'm kind of pissed off at the protestors' actions, because it turns Sinema bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #9
They really should have just waited outside not letting her leave. SunImp Oct 2021 #17
You're pissed; Sinema was STALLing. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #21
Sympathetic to the likes of Fox News and Stephen Miller tenderfoot Oct 2021 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #8
Cool Screen Name... MineralMan Oct 2021 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #11
She is standing the the way of two very important bills. MineralMan Oct 2021 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #15
No they should not be stand alone. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #20
You mean elected? BlueLucy Oct 2021 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #29
Odd... Jim G. Oct 2021 #19
No, of course the bills should not be stand-alone. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #30
Howdy! BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #14
I do not know how I missed that. marble falls Oct 2021 #34
And it was in your OP BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #35
That's the first time in several years she's responded to me or one of my threads. marble falls Oct 2021 #36
I see the library is open again. tenderfoot Oct 2021 #25
Sinema has not had a town hall in 3 years, her office is usually closed, and her phones always go to Celerity Oct 2021 #28
This protests is likely to be counterproductive LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #33
I don't think it will have any effect whatsoever, what it does is show the length Sinema will ... marble falls Oct 2021 #37

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
2. And the other women filmed in the bathroom were her fault
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:59 PM
Oct 2021

How dare she force those cameras to follow her into a restroom?

jimfields33

(15,669 posts)
5. Bathrooms should be a place to shit and change clothes.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:37 PM
Oct 2021

The video person is lucky kids were not changing in there.

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
13. I never said that. But if your representative will not listen to you or call townhalls, what ...
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 03:11 PM
Oct 2021

... would you do? From her past, she would have done it.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
16. They didn't follow her into the stall.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 03:28 PM
Oct 2021

I don't see a big deal here. She needs to engage with her constituents not just wealthy donors. She has no problem meeting people who hold a fundraiser for her but her constituents? Oh! the horror!

Earth-shine

(3,938 posts)
3. The problem is that filming in a bathroom is now the issue that's front and center ...
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

instead of what a sh*t Sinema is.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,544 posts)
4. As long as she avoids and stonewalls constituents, Sinema should expect this treatment.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:24 PM
Oct 2021

It’s been three years since her last town hall.

Ex Lurker

(3,811 posts)
31. Then the chasing her into the bathroom becomes the story
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:53 PM
Oct 2021

and she becomes a sympathetic character. They could have waited outside. She would have come out eventually.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Looks like Sen. Sinema's feeble attempt to dodge her constituents didn't work
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:42 PM
Oct 2021

Not like the "Senators Only" elevator in the Capitol, is it Sen. Sinema? It appears that some of her constituents weren't fazed by her run-and-hide strategy and actually expected her to answer for her failure to keep her promises. Scandalous!

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
7. I'm kind of pissed off at the protestors' actions, because it turns Sinema
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:45 PM
Oct 2021

into a somewhat sympathetic figure. Completely counter-productive.

Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #7)

SunImp

(2,223 posts)
17. They really should have just waited outside not letting her leave.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 03:28 PM
Oct 2021

She probably would have called someone to get her, but the situation would have been better

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. You're pissed; Sinema was STALLing.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:06 PM
Oct 2021

And to the protestors who streamed in behind her: "Urine trouble now!"

Response to marble falls (Original post)

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
10. Cool Screen Name...
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:56 PM
Oct 2021

I'm not sure you're correct with your assessment of that questioning of Sinema, though. I sure didn't see it that way, and I definitely live in the "real world."

Response to MineralMan (Reply #10)

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
12. She is standing the the way of two very important bills.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 03:08 PM
Oct 2021

In so doing, she is doing exactly what the Republicans want her to do. We would like her to vote as a Democrat, rather than grandstanding and slowing down progress.

Those two things.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to read DU and today's posts before commenting on this on your first day here.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
18. No they should not be stand alone.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 03:34 PM
Oct 2021

It's hard to get everyone on board to vote. If these are stand alone, none would pass. Everyone would just vote only on their issues that they like. Look, she met with wealthy donors but not regular people. Also, she won't say what she is for!

Response to BlueLucy (Reply #18)

Response to BlueLucy (Reply #23)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
22. No, of course the bills should not be stand-alone.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:07 PM
Oct 2021

SineManchin are the reason they had to be bundled together.

Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #22)

Celerity

(43,065 posts)
28. Sinema has not had a town hall in 3 years, her office is usually closed, and her phones always go to
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:27 PM
Oct 2021

voicemail. She refuses to talk at all to her constituents.



LetMyPeopleVote

(144,884 posts)
33. This protests is likely to be counterproductive
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:28 PM
Oct 2021

This is not an effective way to win someone to your point of view

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
37. I don't think it will have any effect whatsoever, what it does is show the length Sinema will ...
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:44 PM
Oct 2021

... go to avoid her constituents and wipe out her her good work from the past.

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