God, I love Bernie!

[wackadoo wabbit]

If you didn't catch him on Rachel just now, catch the repeat. It's definitely worth watching.

[vanlassie]

1. I came here to say this. My God. He deserves a prize.

[Groundhawg]

2. I love bernie too/

[tblue37]

13. +a brazillion! nt

[raging moderate]

3. Bernie Sanders is a modern day Prophet.

He was born to speak truth to power.

[NurseJackie]

33. ...

[George II]

36. He didn't say anything different than most Democrats have been saying since LBJ, maybe earlier.

[mcar]

42. Ohhhh kay

[walkingman]

4. America will be a better place when we have more politicians like Bernie.

[area51]

20. +1 n/t

[dflprincess]

5. The senator from the state that is the 5th most dependent on the Federal government

doesn't want an "entitlement society".

Go figure.

[vanlassie]

8. Their Senator spends his time hanging out on his "boats"

and really doesn’t care much about THOSE people. Don’t tell me “he loves to talk to constituents.” Big Fucking Deal. It means nothing.

[Justice matters.]

9. He sure wants his own entitlement from big "conservative" donors.

That said, why doesn't he figure out what "compassionate" really means, especially when it's going to be entirely paid for??

[moondust]

12. "entitlement" only applies to poor people

It does not apply to corporations, billionaires, or millionaires that pay little or nothing in taxes. Right, Joe?

[KPN]

21. +++

Isn’t that what it’s all about! Give me, but not them. Sick.

[a kennedy]

6. I absolutely adore Bernie.......I just bawled after he spoke to Rachel.....

♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️

[DanieRains]

7. I Am Entitled To Not Watch My Children Die

From extreme weather, or unaffordable Healthcare, or unaffordable medications.

Yep I'm entitled.

[vanlassie]

10. No self respecting "Democrat" uses that word, that way.

The man outs himself.

[BComplex]

19. Good point. I don't see any of Manchen's ideas that seem to support things that most

democrats support. Maybe the coal-miners' union? Idk.

[ShazzieB]

27. DINO

That's Manchin. Same with Sinema. And no, I am not bashing Democrats. No matter what they may call themselves, DINOs are not Democrats, at least not as far as I'm concerned.

If anyone reading this wants to report me for Dem bashing, go right ahead. Come at me, bro. I don't even care if this post gets hidden, as long as at least a few people see it first.

I have HAD it with those two DINOs. Their refusal to support President Biden's agenda is making him and the rest of the Dems in Congress look bad, and it's hurting ALL Americans, whether or not they all know it.

That is all I will allow myself to say for now. 🙊

[lagomorph777]

40. +1. But it appears to me that DU is generally on the same page here.

[Bluethroughu]

14. 100%!

Tell it like it is Bernie!

[malaise]

11. His deconstruction of 'entitled' MUST be spread far and wide

It is simple, uncomplicated and explains why the majority of Americans support these policies.

[Celerity]

16. it's sickening to see Manchin spewing that old shitty RW talking point (entitlement society)

[malaise]

32. There is a serious underbelly of cruelty

in most of our so called societies

[Lunabell]

15. Bernie is awesome!

I want the Democratic party to embrace Democratic Socialism. I know I do and so do the youth of this great nation. Progress is the way forward.

[Celerity]

17. NO, it's social democracy, not 'Democratic socialism'. Huge difference, & it's political suicide in

reactionary 'Murica to use that false label of democratic socialism.

There are NO socialists in Congress. Bernie is not one. He and others are falsely self-labelling, and it is just so self-defeating.

Democratic socialism (and socialism in general) requires state appropriation of the means of production. Bernie has stated many times he does not believe in that. No one in Congress does.

All he and the other progs want is bog standard Nordic style social democracy.

I can assure you that we here in the Nordics are NOT socialist nations. In fact our capitalist sectors are more vibrant and robust on many levels (far higher productivity per hour worked for but one example) than the American one.

We just regulate capitalism to a far higher, far fairer level, to curb its natural excesses and bad tendencies, and to make it work synergistically with our expansive social welfare states to provide a higher standard of living and with FAR less wealth inequality than the US has. Welfare to us here means 'live well', welfare in 'Murica has some bizarre stigma attached to it as only for the poor and for so-called lazy.

[Lunabell]

18. OK, well I just want a middle class that thrives.

Right now the middle class is dying. Too much power and money in the hands of a few. We're doomed if we let this continue.

[Celerity]

23. A switch to actual socialism will kill off the middle class faster than it is dying now in the US.

Do you want the Rethugs to control the means of production?

[Lunabell]

25. Nah.

We need an economic model that works for the benefit of the people. Corporations and the mega wealthy need to pay their fair share of taxes. We need to get money put of politics. Climate change is real and unless we force polluting Corporations to fix their shit, there won't even be a world to pass on to your family.

[Celerity]

26. The structural long-wave flaws, some perhaps even (given certain inputs and time-lines) fatal,

that are being exposed within the US Constitutionally-mandated system of federalism, make a lot of that admiral list of desired outcomes far less likely. The Rethugs have spent almost 6 decades (and especially the last 4) gaming the system, gaming it at local, county, state and national levels. Partisan gerrymandering (at state and national levels) alone is disastrous, as it forces us to run extremely moderate, cautious candidates, ones who are loathe to rock the boat, and loathe to piss the systemic centres of real power.

Now add in the Senate (by its very nature it allows a tyranny of minority rule), the Electoral College, a RW-captured federal court system, including SCOTUS, plus a virtually unlimited influence of corporate and the ultra-wealthy's monies to flow into and corrupt the system even more, and you have a superstructure in place that is the epitome of a hyper-complex, sophisticated, and incredibly effective blocking mechanism to your desired outcomes.

[KPN]

22. Thank you! And thank you so much for being and participating here.

[Celerity]

24. yw!

[I_UndergroundPanther]

28. Bernie says it like it is

That's why I love him too.

[Rhiannon12866]

29. Here's the video(s) for those who missed him:

Bernie Sanders Critical Of Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema Obstructing Popular Will - Rachel Maddow -MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017685764

[DLevine]

30. Fighting the good fight, as always.

Thank you Bernie.

[Vinca]

31. I'm so happy Bernie finally said what we've all been saying. Time to ditch kumbayah.

Manchin goes on an on about an "entitlement" society, but the real problem is that he seems to suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder and craves the camera. West Virginia needs all the assistance it can get at the moment, but Manchin prefers the spotlight.

[UCmeNdc]

34. K&R

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017685764

[betsuni]

35. Supporting the Democratic Party.

Glad to see the change from: "The point I make over and over again... is the ideas I talk about are ideas that the American people want. They don't get it because you got a Congress indebted to wealthy campaign contributors." The Democratic Party isn't corrupt.

[George II]

37. As a member of the Senate Democratic caucus, he didn't say anything differently than most....

...Democrats over the years, and certainly not Majority Leader Schumer or President Biden. In fact, he sounded a lot like Joe Biden during the entire campaign last year and his first 9 months in office.

[rgbecker]

38. What? Sanders is actually just like a Democrat? Who knew?

Although, maybe it was instead that Biden was sounding a lot like Sanders.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/blog/meet-press-blog-latest-news-analysis-data-driving-political-discussion-n988541/ncrd1180516#blogHeader

Just wanted to make sure we have a record of the suggestion that Sanders might be a Democrat after all or at least sounded like one.

[NurseJackie]

41. No, it wasn't that.

What? Sanders is actually just like a Democrat? Who knew?

Considering all the "shade" that has been thrown at the Democratic party and Democratic leadership (ie: "ideologically bankrupt" ... "Coastal Elites" ... etc.) This is a nice change, so I hope it continues.

Although, maybe it was instead that Biden was sounding a lot like Sanders.

No, it wasn't that. People who pay attention to what Biden has been saying all along know better.

Just wanted to make sure we have a record of the suggestion that Sanders might be a Democrat after all or at least sounded like one.

No, he's not a Democrat and he has repeatedly made that very clear. I think what needs to be "on record" is the fact that the when any other Democrat says or tweets the same thing... it's just a ho-hum ordinary day. But when Bernie says it, the gushing is totally OTT.

I mean, seriously... come-ON! I read elsewhere online where someone was comparing him to Jesus! Please.

[George II]

45. You forgot:

[George II]

44. I said he was a member of the Democratic Caucus. I'm always careful to state that accurately.....

....for the record.

[Hortensis]

46. Not exactly, rgbecker.

"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat." ~ Bernie Sanders

True today, as then.

He's always been proud of this. Even if many who of those admire him most don't know why or what he means by this, I feel basic respect and courtesy require me to believe he's sincere.

[LanternWaste]

47. Goodness gracious.

You certainly forced that square peg into a round hole.

Bias can do that.

[Greybnk48]

39. I adore Bernie. He was awesome, as usual, on Rachel!

I'm so happy he and Biden have teamed up. President Biden has always been a smart cookie, too.

[BeckyDem]

43. +1

[Uncle Joe]

48. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread wackadoo wabbit.