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CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:19 AM Oct 2021

Joe Biden says Kyrsten Sinema is ignoring his calls -- but she talks to Mitch McConnell

https://www.alternet.org/2021/10/sinema-mcconnell-biden/

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Biden has sounded "exasperated" at Sinema and fellow holdout Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., who have rejected the $3.5 trillion price tag of the Democratic proposal to expand health care and family care, provide paid family leave, combat climate change, provide free community college and lower housing and prescription drug costs.

Biden has complained to lawmakers that the two senators "don't move" from their positions and has even "contended that Sinema didn't always return calls from the White House," sources told CNN's Manu Raju.

Sinema and her aides have repeatedly said that she would not negotiate publicly. Democratic leaders are also rankled that she doesn't appear to be negotiating much in private either. Sinema's office says she has been clear about her demands, but Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., complained on Wednesday that Sinema refuses to tell Senate colleagues what exactly she would support in the bill.

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McConnell has urged fellow Republicans to praise Sinema publicly and privately assured his party earlier this year that Sinema would successfully block Biden's proposed tax increases on corporations and the wealthy.

The Republican leader earlier this week relented on his opposition to helping the Democrats raise the debt ceiling, offering a short-term increase in hopes of lowering the pressure on Sinema and Manchin to change Senate filibuster rules in order to raise the debt limit, Republican sources told the New York Times. McConnell called Sinema and Manchin to discuss the deal even before informing members of his own party, according to Politico. Democrats, including Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, only learned of the deal McConnell floated to Sinema and Manchin through a press release.
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Joe Biden says Kyrsten Sinema is ignoring his calls -- but she talks to Mitch McConnell (Original Post) CousinIT Oct 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #1
Even when we win, we lose. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2021 #2
Biden needs to go into Arizona and sell his PLAN. Historic NY Oct 2021 #3
I don't understand how Manchin and Sinema aren't considered double agents. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #4
Both GOP plants. rickyhall Oct 2021 #5
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Oct 2021 #11
I'm trying to picture a Republican not returning... SMC22307 Oct 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #7
The lack of respect being shown toward Biden is really ticking me off. SMC22307 Oct 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #10
Hmm... Mike Nelson Oct 2021 #8
Gee, even a lowly puke such as me returns phone calls. LuckyCharms Oct 2021 #12
Sinema and Manchin are to McConnell as KPN Oct 2021 #13
ok, is there any possibility that Sinema is actually working for the GOP? Takket Oct 2021 #14
K&R UTUSN Oct 2021 #15

Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
3. Biden needs to go into Arizona and sell his PLAN.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:39 AM
Oct 2021

don't let Sinema sink it. Go to where the enemy lives. He then needs to go to WV, meet with the Republican Gov. who supports the plan.

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
4. I don't understand how Manchin and Sinema aren't considered double agents.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:43 AM
Oct 2021

The difference between the two parties can't be clearer than it is today. And the kindest thing we can say about Manchin and Sinema is that they're DINOs. The worst, Republican sleepers.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
6. I'm trying to picture a Republican not returning...
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:46 AM
Oct 2021

Trump, or Dubya's, or Ronnie Raygun's calls. Maybe it happened, but Sinema's behavior is wholly unacceptable.

Response to SMC22307 (Reply #6)

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
9. The lack of respect being shown toward Biden is really ticking me off.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:59 AM
Oct 2021

Sinema. Manchin. Mean Girl tweets from Politico and the WaPo. Etc.

Response to SMC22307 (Reply #9)

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
8. Hmm...
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:58 AM
Oct 2021

..."Sinema didn't always return calls from the White House" sounds strange. Had she been ill? Is she returning calls, now? Sounds, to me, like either the media is promoting discord, or Sinema is going to kill the deals. I hope it's not the latter...

Takket

(21,563 posts)
14. ok, is there any possibility that Sinema is actually working for the GOP?
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:58 AM
Oct 2021

That someone "got to her" with money or something else and she was put up in AZ as a "safety valve" if the gop lost the Senate?

I mean, i've thought of her as just a poor Democrat up until now, and Manchin just seems like he is what he is, a coal loving Dem that survives the only way he can in a deeply red state.

But reading the OP here... not returning calls from the White House? the WHITE HOUSE? on top of her refusal to meet with constituents, the sarcastic contempt shown for anyone asking her position on anything ("I'm standing in front of the elevator" ). There is a deep seeded bitterness and anger here towards her own party and her own blue voters that doesn't seem attributable to just personality quirks or misguided beliefs on their own.

Obviously there is no proof of any of this, maybe she really just IS a terrible Democrat... but the more I see of her, her actions, the way she interacts with people (or doesn't) the more paranoid I'm feeling........ and yes I freely admit it is probably just paranoia on my part brought about by my frustration with her incorrigibility lol but... is it even possible?

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