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UTUSN

(70,647 posts)
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:09 PM Oct 2021

TX anti-Choice travesty back by Appeals court stay - there's gotta be a better way

Why not say, "Give me a reason NOT to issue the stay by next Tuesday"?!1

Before I'm scalded here, I understand that the wingnuts' appeal is ongoing.

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/restrictive-texas-abortion-law-back-effect-appeals-court/story?id=80490887

Restrictive Texas abortion law back in effect as appeals court issues temporary stay

A panel of judges on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has issued a temporary administrative stay Friday night that will allow state courts in Texas to continue accept lawsuits under the state's restrictive abortion law. ....

In addition to the emergency injunction, Pitman had denied Texas' request to put a pause on his ruling while the state appeals it. But that was undone Friday. ....

In the meantime, as the appellate court waited to rule Friday, some abortion providers in Texas had already begun to offer services again to people past six weeks into pregnancy. ....

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UTUSN

(70,647 posts)
2. Yea, it's an ancient propaganda/Rhetorical technique to reverse/pervert word meanings.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:19 PM
Oct 2021

LIMBAUGH (spitting up at invoking his name) used it extensively, taking the accolades given to FDR and applying them to RAYGUN, much more.






struggle4progress

(118,233 posts)
3. Judge Catharina Haynes: Bush II appointee
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:25 PM
Oct 2021

Judge James Ho: Trump appointee
Judge Carl E. Stewart: Clinton appointee

UTUSN

(70,647 posts)
6. Well, why would his mess be a disqualifier in Texas, no different from his wingnut predecessors?
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 02:38 PM
Oct 2021

As BEGALA says, "It's not a Red state, it's a NON-VOTING state." But the Old White Wingnuts are high voting at all costs.

And Rick GOODHAIR had 3 1/2 terms, so stupidity is not a disqualifier either - you know the one who became Energy Secretary despite not knowing it dealt with nuclear.

Especially the burgeoning Hispanics don't vote and the ones who do are sizably susceptible to wingnut B.S. "Conservative family values" (Catholic anti-CHOICE).

Plus, the supposedly Lib young college types, the oh-so-KEWL Austinites split off to whatever fringe pops up against the mainstream Dems. So Goodhair scraped himself in with the KEWLs splitting off and a grandma schoolteacher taking votes away from both the Dem and from Goodhair, winning with only 39%.

Like whoever takes over from Drumpf, ABBUTT is more dangerous for being smarter than Goodhair.










brush

(53,743 posts)
7. I don't give up that easily. Try optimism. The state is trending purplish.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 03:22 PM
Oct 2021

You have to agreed that Abbott, what with the grid failure in the winter, his covid anti-vaxx/mask stances and now this horrid abortion law, hasn't been good for that state.

Maybe more and more voters will look for solutions in voting blue once the two infrastructure bills are passed and projects will good benefits and jobs start rolling out. Especially if we come up with a strong candidate. There are the Castro brothers, and Beto.

UTUSN

(70,647 posts)
8. I'm 74, have slogged through tons of Dem heartbreakers, so I don't consider myself "giving up".
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 04:21 PM
Oct 2021

So I'm not even easy on that score.

Why would I consider that list of wingnut/Repuke crap "good for that state"? What Dem or just randomly reasonable human would have to "agree" that that crap "hasn't been good for that state"? Wingnuts by definition aren't guided by what's "good" for state/nation.

The wingnut constituency will *never* consider Blue solutions, so rule that chunk of voters out, besides that they *VOTE* without fail.

What I said (I seldom repeat myself) was that the Dem natural constituencies in that state either don't vote or go off on Greenish/faddish tangents, hamstringing the mainstream Dem nominees. Besides that some of our brightest Dem hopes went to the BUSH wagon back when and left a Dem void there of charismatic, forceful leaders.

Yea, the Purple gambit, there and elsewhere, has been floated around for awhile, needs to start getting real. I'll stop here.









brush

(53,743 posts)
9. So you don't hold out any hope for more blue votes even if infrastructure...
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 04:30 PM
Oct 2021

projects succeed in bring benefits and jobs to voters?

UTUSN

(70,647 posts)
10. You read me as a total downer. I have held on to hope (as I said) thru countless disappointments.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 04:57 PM
Oct 2021

And don't read "disappointments" as my being disappointed in *Dems.* The disappointments have been the election losses/thefts/coups coming at us from the Repukes.

You're familiar with the concept of "voting against their self-interests"? -

I wouldn't be a Dem if I lacked hope. But age brings harsh reality into ever more consideration. I love the full-out Idealistic side of our Democratic vision, but staying in an arrested development state of Starry-Eyed bliss is one way to being picked-off for defeat. We need to be tougher. Street smarts and fight.

Why would I depreciate the long range benefits of our current Dem plans? I also know that specifics of issues and improvements are just one part of convincing voters.

I don't know how to say it clearer that I don't need convincing about the Democratic agenda (see my Sig line). In this discussion of yours and mine, we are on some kind of different tack of how you are reading me.








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