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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:13 PM Jan 2012

James O’Keefe Says $50K Donation Funded Voter Fraud Stunt (Talking Points Memo)

An “extremely generous donor” gave $50,000 to James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas to fund their voter fraud stunt in New Hampshire on Tuesday, the conservative activist said in a email to supporters.

O’Keefe wrote in the email that his team had the “ability to cast more than a dozen votes” in what is one of the only known cases of a coordinated attempt at in-person voter fraud. Conservatives touted the project as evidence of the need for voter ID laws, though election experts said other polling station methods could have prevented such a scheme from taking place.

Some officials and observers, including a Republican mayor in New Hampshire, have called on those involved in procuring the ballots under false pretenses to be arrested.

“They had to impersonate someone else in order to be checked off, and that’s voter fraud. I think they might have thought they were being cute, but they’re committing voter fraud and they should be prosecuted for it,” Ashwell told TPM. “The people of New Hampshire are honest, and that video is saying that anybody can be a criminal. We’re just honest people and we expect other people to be honest.”

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/james_okeefe_says_50k_donation_funded_voter_fraud_stunt.php?ref=fpb



A follow up from yesterday's story. More to come I hope...

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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. Yes, you would think so. Of course that donor will probably claim they had no idea what
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:35 PM
Jan 2012

someone like O'Keefe, already convicted of other wrong-doing, might do with that money.

I hope there is at least a civil suit, maybe a class-action Rico Civil Suit by the people of NH against O'Keefe et al. That might finally uncover the donors who are undermining this country. These dirty tricksters are destroying this country and I thought these practices WERE illegal.

As for O'Keefe, where is his probation officer?

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
10. How about RICO?
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jan 2012
Federal and state racketeering, profiteering, and RICO (Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organization) laws make it illegal for criminal organizations to profit from any legitimate business operations. Many of these laws allow for the confiscation and seizure of the criminal organization's legitimate enterprise assets, and are typically used against known "organized crime" groups. The goal is to cripple the operation financially, and cut off sources of cash that support ongoing criminal activity.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/racketeering_rico.html?DCMP=GOO-CRIM_Racketeering-Define&HBX_PK=racketeering+definition

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
14. If the $50K was given with the intent to commit those crimes, then absolutely
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jan 2012

I was about to make the same point.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
3. But the "liberally-biased media" and the "Courts" have shown that they will crack down on
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jan 2012

voter fraud ...

unless it's a Republican or a Republican backer who is committing it.

Why didn't Ann Coulter get convicted? Why was her case different from Joe Shmoe whose name in the voting rolls book read "Joseph Shmoe", but his drivers license (read: Photo ID issued by the state) said "Joseph P. Shmoe", and he gets charged with voter fraud?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. Joseph Schmoe doesn't get charged with fraud: he gets turned away from the polls
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:48 PM
Jan 2012

In other words, he is disenfranchised: that's called voter suppression. And THAT's what needs to be stopped. No one has ever really shown that voter fraud exists, or exists in any significant numbers to affect anything. Voter suppression, however, is widespread and becoming institutionalized in many states. Fortunately, this DOJ is trying to fight back against it.

As for Coulter, I don't know whether she should have been charged or not. I'll tell you a story regarding our upstanding selves that may (or may not) relate. We were moving from the Boston area to another state in September of 2004, just before the presidential elections in November. I wanted to be sure to be totally on the up and up so that I would be eligible to vote in my new state. So before we left, I went to our Town Hall to submit paperwork to remove us from the rolls of our Massachusetts town. We then registered to vote in our new city and state with our new address. However ... our daughter, who had moved to an apartment in a nearby MA town (she didn't move with us), neglected to reregister for her new address, and went back to our old town to vote. That was not good, but it was not like she was trying to cast two votes: she had been neglectful and just wanted to vote in the presidential election. She called and told us, however, that all our names still appeared on the town rolls--even though we were now living a thousand or more miles away. I guess the town clerk is slow. At any rate, they let my daughter vote there; and we voted here. Had anyone cared to check, she might have been accused of doing an Ann Coulter-type vote thing. And we could have been accused of being registered in two different states. None of us was intending to, nor in fact did, commit fraud.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
4. I'm looking at the video and wondering why some of the men involved used
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:33 PM
Jan 2012

some sort of British accent. Was that meant to imply Hispanics are voting illegally?

deminks

(11,014 posts)
6. Here is the widow of the man they impersonated.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:41 PM
Jan 2012

He passed away just two weeks ago. The county did not have time to remove him from the voter rolls.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002157944

Loudmxr

(1,405 posts)
9. $50K for O'Keefe to commit a crime? That's cheap.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jan 2012

Imagine what we could get him to do for $75-$100K.

C'mon guys dig deep into your piggy banks and get O'Keefe to do something really bad and throw his ass in jail.

He could repeat the boat/disco seduction/molestation trick... only with a better boat this time.

pansypoo53219

(20,972 posts)
11. i call bullshit. where's his fucking video?
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jan 2012

if they HAD been able to vote illeally, they would have been on fux gnews alreadyl

WHERE'S THE VIDEO?

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
13. I think that they thought that as long as they didn't vote,
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:08 PM
Jan 2012

they weren't breaking the law. As it happens, the law forbids obtaining a ballot improperly, regardless of whether or not you vote!

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