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Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 09:46 AM Oct 2021

Replace "Trump" with "Hitler".

This is a paraphrasing of something I just heard on MSNBC: Trump has the ability to connect with his core voters, with the ability to motivate them like nobody can.

Grassley accepting Trump's endorsement just days after it's known that Trump was behind the Insurrection is the big news of the morning. MSNBC is shocked.

And they should be shocked. Because any decent Republican who is yielding to Trump, is actually supporting a group of people who would gladly take this country over by Civil War.

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Replace "Trump" with "Hitler". (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 OP
Comparisons to Hitler and Nazi Germany are considered by many as hate speech, but I have no doubt Doodley Oct 2021 #1
Hitler won with the support of farmers and multigraincracker Oct 2021 #2
Would Trump sacrifice his most avid supporters too? You bet. Look at the covidiots. Doodley Oct 2021 #3
Indeed. Wednesdays Oct 2021 #4
Makes me wonder how the latin americans in Miami will vote this time. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #6
They'll vote for any candidate who accuses their opponent of being a communist. sop Oct 2021 #11
Also, there are 'fly-over' areas in every state. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #13
Actually in this case I think they're perfectly warranted. Initech Oct 2021 #10
Agreed. He's a wannabe Hitler who is still a threat to America and the rest of the world. Doodley Oct 2021 #16
Why trivialize Hitler? 45 doesn't need a comparisson, his shit's in a bad enough league on it's own. marble falls Oct 2021 #5
Exactly. They are fascists. It's just that today's GOP is the US fascist party. plimsoll Oct 2021 #9
In the future people will compare aspiring authoritarians to Trump. sop Oct 2021 #12
Perhaps, in a case study of failure. tritsofme Oct 2021 #18
I do not think that apt comparisons trivialize Hitler. Caliman73 Oct 2021 #19
Often the same people who want to own the "libtards." plimsoll Oct 2021 #7
Well put empedocles Oct 2021 #8
Many believe Grassley is running again just so he can then retire Bev54 Oct 2021 #14
They disgust me. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #15
We simply cannot knuckle under bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #17
I think comparisons of Hitler to Trump are appropriate and shouldn't be avoided if they fit Ohioboy Oct 2021 #20
+1 Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #21

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
1. Comparisons to Hitler and Nazi Germany are considered by many as hate speech, but I have no doubt
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:19 AM
Oct 2021

that Trump would gladly see millions die and see America burn to the ground if it gave him the power he craves.

multigraincracker

(32,673 posts)
2. Hitler won with the support of farmers and
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:26 AM
Oct 2021

they ended up being the ones sent to the Russian Front.


just saying...

Wednesdays

(17,342 posts)
4. Indeed.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:42 AM
Oct 2021

It was the Rheinland, not Berlin, that heavily supported Hitler. Similar to the flyover states, and not New York or D.C. supporting TFG.

HUAJIAO

(2,383 posts)
13. Also, there are 'fly-over' areas in every state.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 11:52 AM
Oct 2021

I live in upstate NY and outside of the 'cities' and some/many of the bigger towns it is deep red!

Initech

(100,063 posts)
10. Actually in this case I think they're perfectly warranted.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 11:30 AM
Oct 2021

Trump does scare the shit out of me. His supporters would lock up and murder their opponents if they got the chance. We saw what they were capable of on January 6th. The next time they may succeed.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
9. Exactly. They are fascists. It's just that today's GOP is the US fascist party.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 11:05 AM
Oct 2021

Much like National Socialist German Workers' Party was the Germain fascist party.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
19. I do not think that apt comparisons trivialize Hitler.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:23 PM
Oct 2021

Hitler did not start out with death camps and the Final Solution. Hitler gained power through both electoral means and violent take over during the 1930's. It was at least 7 years into his reign as Fuhrer, that he launched invasions into Poland and France.

Everyone reacts strongly to comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis because of the Holocaust, but the rise of Hitler had little to do with the Final Solution and everything to do with using right wing, populist rhetoric, blaming immigrants, deviants, and minorities for the problems of the nation. Exactly what Trump was doing as candidate and president, and exactly what he would do again if he ran.

We do need the comparison because the German people did not think that they would be guided toward a World War and the attempted extermination of a religious and cultural group/ gay people/ disabled people/ the Roma/ Poles and others. If we say, "You can't/shouldn't compare anyone to Hitler, then you can miss then rise of the next Hitler.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
7. Often the same people who want to own the "libtards."
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 11:01 AM
Oct 2021

Isn't it interesting how they can identify "hate speech" so readily when it is predicated on their own behavior and is drawing a comparison to similar behavior in history. That being said, they are not Nazi's. The are fascists, and more akin to the Falangists of Franco's Spain or the followers of Benito Mussolini, both of which had much stronger ties to organized religions than the Nazis.

So my question is always are they objecting to Nazi and Hitler because that is in their mind the worst example of fascism, or do they imagine that by being "Christians" their atrocities won't be morally bankrupt. I figure they're wrong either way.

Bev54

(10,045 posts)
14. Many believe Grassley is running again just so he can then retire
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:07 PM
Oct 2021

and Iowa governor will then replace him with someone else who perhaps could be more vulnerable in an actual election. Some believe it might be his grandson. I can see them doing this, it is how they work.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
20. I think comparisons of Hitler to Trump are appropriate and shouldn't be avoided if they fit
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:54 PM
Oct 2021

Why not look to history for comparisons, especially when such comparisons are starring us right in the face?

For example:

Hitler had a cult- like following, similar to Trump.

Hitler, like Trump, used hate- filled rallies to whip up support.

Hitler, like Trump, encouraged people to fight for him.


But most importantly:

Hitler along with his henchmen changed laws to enable him to gain control of the government. Republican legislators are in the process of changing election laws as we speak.

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