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Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

It's not "The Big Lie" President Trump is trying to steal an election he lost by over 7 million vot

We need to start to call this what is is. TRUMP ELECTION THEFT. Team Trump has spent the last year trying to steal an election that they lost by over 7 million votes. This was a landslide by recent elections standards. This was not close, he got beaten badly and has spent 11 months trying to rewrite the entire thing.

It is not the big lie, it is attempted Trump election theft of an election that was not even close.

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Reply It's not "The Big Lie" President Trump is trying to steal an election he lost by over 7 million vot (Original post)
bottomofthehill Oct 2021 OP
DeeNice Oct 2021 #1
NCDem47 Oct 2021 #2
bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #3
Captain Stern Oct 2021 #4
bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #5
Captain Stern Oct 2021 #6
bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #9
Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #7
Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #12
Kaleva Oct 2021 #8
budkin Oct 2021 #10
bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #11
budkin Oct 2021 #13
bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #14

Response to bottomofthehill (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:25 PM

1. The theft is the goal...

the Big Lie is TFG's weapon of choice.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

2. This con man has been creating his own reality for decades

Smoke and fucking mirrors…all…the…damn…time.

So exhausting.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

3. Yes, but it needs to be properly identified

He is still trying to steal the election, we know he will continue to lie.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

4. They aren't trying to steal the last election. That's over with. It's done.

The election(s) they are working on stealing are the next ones.

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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

5. There is a large universe of nuts out there who are still fighting the last election

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

6. That's true.

Those same nuts will be out there in 2022, and 2024, and 2026, etc.

They want to make sure those nuts keep voting.

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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 01:33 PM

9. All the more reason to label it what it is

Republicans trying to steal the election. The big lie is just a soft way of saying election theft. For the longest time the media would not call what Trump was doing was lying. Now that are afraid to call it what it is, stealing the election.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 01:04 PM

7. Yep! And most of the assholes who won't let go of 2020...

are the same ones who were telling us to "get over" 2016. Truth is, there wasn't a lot of "go back and correct" 2016, though there were certainly a lot of us complaining and getting to work to ensure it didn't happen again. The result was 2018 and 2020 and I hope we can keep the momentum going forward.

Sure, we bitched about 2016, but we never tried to violently overturn the outcome like the right is doing.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 02:32 PM

12. Exactly

I've been in more than one argument with a right-winger trying to argue that false equivalency. As we all know:

1. Hillary conceded early the next morning
2. Obama fully cooperated in the transition and even tried to help Trump prepare for the job (I'm sure he hated every minute of it though)
3. There were no election audits, nor any widespread calls for them by Democratic politicians, who sucked it up and got right back to work.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 01:13 PM

8. Not really that large

Arizona state Repubs are pretty much ignoring TFG's call to decertify the election results in that state

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Response to bottomofthehill (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 01:36 PM

10. Technically he only lost it by 40,000 votes... because of the sham known as the EC

The Electoral College is the only thing preventing the GOP from never winning another presidential election.

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Response to budkin (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 02:27 PM

11. That's another argument people would like us to think but no,

He lost by over 7 million votes. He also got swamped in the electoral college, it was actually a 50/50 split in states, but the states where people actually live overwhelmingly votes for President Biden.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 04:51 PM

13. Believe me, I want the EC dead

But I think it'll be much harder than even removing the filibuster.

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Response to budkin (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 05:43 PM

14. Way harder, it's a constitutional issue.

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