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WarGamer

(12,373 posts)
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:19 PM Oct 2021

Remember "Titanic" movie? "The pumps only buy us time..." and Climate Change

The Titanic was gutted by the iceberg. Water was pouring in. The flow couldn't be stopped and the Titanic WOULD sink... the pumps merely bought time.

What do you do with time when the ship is sinking? You prepare the guests and crew, you launch lifeboats (assuming you have enough) and you contact nearby ships for assistance.

Right?

EV's, Solar Panels and Electric lawn mowers and running your appliances at night only buy us time.

One, the sheer amount of CO2 already in the atmosphere is sinking our "ship". Two, the gash in the hull keeps getting wider every time China, India and developing countries build a new coal fired power plant.

Responsible countries will drastically cut back on their CO2 emissions but it's laughably inadequate.

Our conversation needs to change.

There is no "Stopping Climate Change" or "Cause the waters to recede..."

It's a done deal.

Mitigation is nice, but it's time for preparation. We need a Presidential Commission to start planning a USA that will still function and thrive in a future that looks much different than today.

Ideas? Ok, how about improving the power grid with a multitude of mini-nuclear energy plants like Bill Gates discussed in his recent book (A++ I might add)

We're going to need a lot more power for EV's and air conditioning and such things. Have scientists map out where the productive farmland will be in 50-80 years.

Prepare diplomatically. Canada will be a coveted piece of land in the future, as will the Taiga in EurAsia...

Change how we live. Mega-Cities will be needed. Car-less modern cities, efficient and green, positioned in places that will be OK in the future.

But how to start? Literally half the country refuses to believe the Titanic could sink... she's unsinkable, right??

To quote from the movie. "Oh she's made of iron, sir. I assure you she can and she will sink"

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Remember "Titanic" movie? "The pumps only buy us time..." and Climate Change (Original Post) WarGamer Oct 2021 OP
K & R Celerity Oct 2021 #1
Simple- Mandate every building being built packman Oct 2021 #2
I agree with the sentiment.... paleotn Oct 2021 #3
Very hard to prepare Shermann Oct 2021 #4
To say nothing of the Canadian Shield . . . . hatrack Oct 2021 #5
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
2. Simple- Mandate every building being built
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:31 PM
Oct 2021

be energy independent be it solar, wind, or by some other means such as design or insulation. Of course, it won't happen. A lot of roof space that can be used and would remove them from the grid. Hell, they could even pump energy back into the grid.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
3. I agree with the sentiment....
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:59 PM
Oct 2021

I've been saying for some time we're simply not going to do what's necessary to escape 2+++ degrees of warming. Humans are just like that.

However, Canadian and Eurasian taiga soils won't become arable for centuries, possibly millennia. Either too thin, too acidic, too loaded with undigested plant matter. Fresh water on the other hand is a very different story.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
4. Very hard to prepare
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 08:10 PM
Oct 2021

Some regions will hit the jackpot with climate change, others will be devastated, others may not see much difference at all. There will always be temperate places to live, and money buys mobility and the ability to relocate there. Those with less money and less mobility will be left holding the bag. Well-to-do "deniers" know this all too well.

In the US, wildfires are a certainty. It's unclear if the droughts out west will progress to desertification. Guatemala has it much worse right now.

Which major US city will be the first to run out of water? You don't want to live there.

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