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traitorsgalore

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Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:45 PM Oct 2021

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) traitorsgalore Oct 2021 OP
Right..and it will..accidents happen PortTack Oct 2021 #1
Good thing spaceflight didn't end after the Challenger explosion..... brooklynite Oct 2021 #3
Although the "civilians in space" program did,... JHB Oct 2021 #24
And people will stop flying the next time there's a plane crash? brooklynite Oct 2021 #2
Given that this is the "early years", which for aviation would be the mid 19-teens and early 20s... JHB Oct 2021 #25
Take a look at "The Spirit of St. Louis"..... brooklynite Oct 2021 #26
Lindbergh was not a rich dilettante on a joyride. JHB Oct 2021 #28
People didn't stop flying Concorde after the Aur France crash. brooklynite Oct 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Oct 2021 #30
Neither the Concord, nor aviation in general, were new by then JHB Oct 2021 #31
Neither is manned space flight... brooklynite Oct 2021 #34
A third of the people climbing Mt Everest die krispos42 Oct 2021 #38
WTF. Really? Budi Oct 2021 #4
I hope not FreeState Oct 2021 #5
Agreed! Initech Oct 2021 #21
Geezuz.... CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #6
I swear. Airplanes never would have happened had the internet been around then jimfields33 Oct 2021 #7
It will be a reality one day. I suspect when those who sailed in the primitive ships in the ocean, JohnSJ Oct 2021 #8
Cheery thought. Old exploratory sailing vessels used to sink with some regularity... Hekate Oct 2021 #9
Several of those corporate rockets have blown up during testing...check youtube. Thomas Hurt Oct 2021 #10
Capitalism drove hundreds of years of sailing exploration in search of new trade routes Hekate Oct 2021 #18
That is a horrible thing to wish for alphafemale Oct 2021 #11
Will the entire Trump family fit Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #12
What a horrible post n/t luv2fly Oct 2021 #13
You are being far too charitable Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #14
I hate cars, too. relayerbob Oct 2021 #15
Wow. NT Happy Hoosier Oct 2021 #16
Well, this post ain't going into space. nt OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2021 #17
You seem giddy by the prospect hardluck Oct 2021 #19
This is some sick shit right here. tritsofme Oct 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Oct 2021 #22
This is a really terrible post. Delete this. Initech Oct 2021 #23
Oh, such an unpleasant thought. Patton French Oct 2021 #27
I remember a day Zeitghost Oct 2021 #32
Those were the days when obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2021 #36
You couldn't be more wrong. Saboburns Oct 2021 #33
Wow. Dark. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #35
What a sick post, disgusting. 👎🙄 nt Raine Oct 2021 #37
The Titanic ended cruising once and for all Shrek Oct 2021 #39

PortTack

(32,691 posts)
1. Right..and it will..accidents happen
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:48 PM
Oct 2021

brooklynite

(94,310 posts)
3. Good thing spaceflight didn't end after the Challenger explosion.....
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:53 PM
Oct 2021

JHB

(37,153 posts)
24. Although the "civilians in space" program did,...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:57 PM
Oct 2021

...which is the more relevant point for a program whose intended major revenue stream is space tourism.

There will be a lot fewer individuals willing to fork over the bill after an explosion and attendant deaths of passengers. That gap will expand exponentially if there is more than one explosion and attendant deaths of passengers.



brooklynite

(94,310 posts)
2. And people will stop flying the next time there's a plane crash?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:52 PM
Oct 2021

JHB

(37,153 posts)
25. Given that this is the "early years", which for aviation would be the mid 19-teens and early 20s...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 09:03 PM
Oct 2021

...yes. Prominent crashes will put people off. Won't stop everything, but if your business plan is geared for big-spenders out for a thrill, your pool of customers may shrink dramatically if they start contemplating that a 1-way trip is entirely possible.

brooklynite

(94,310 posts)
26. Take a look at "The Spirit of St. Louis".....
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 09:13 PM
Oct 2021

When Lindbergh was preparing to fly to Paris, a French team took off from Paris, and disappeared (presumed dead) thereafter. Lindbergh didn’t delay his departure.

JHB

(37,153 posts)
28. Lindbergh was not a rich dilettante on a joyride.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:17 PM
Oct 2021

Besos' hoped-for customer base is.

brooklynite

(94,310 posts)
29. People didn't stop flying Concorde after the Aur France crash.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:49 PM
Oct 2021

Response to brooklynite (Reply #29)

JHB

(37,153 posts)
31. Neither the Concord, nor aviation in general, were new by then
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 12:18 AM
Oct 2021

Also, Concords were airliners with actual destinations, even if they catered to deeper-pocketed clientele. The people who bought tickets wanted to get somewhere, just faster.

So again, this is not a valid comparison to Besos' space-(really more "upper atmosphere" ) tourism business model, which relies on brief joyrides.

One mission that goes wrong and results in the death of the paying passengers will be a huge blow to his business model. If there's a string of failures, a much bigger word than "blow" will be appropriate.

Remember, as long as the price tag is tied to "rich idiot burning cash" territory, it's at the mercy of rich idiots.

brooklynite

(94,310 posts)
34. Neither is manned space flight...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 12:26 AM
Oct 2021

Virgin Galactic had a fatal crash in the test phase. Has it stopped people from signing up?

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
38. A third of the people climbing Mt Everest die
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:00 AM
Oct 2021

If anything, it's making the climb even more popular

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. WTF. Really?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:53 PM
Oct 2021

Ffs.

FreeState

(10,569 posts)
5. I hope not
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:54 PM
Oct 2021

Those company’s have workforces who have good jobs that would be lost (not only that the space tourism part is just a fraction of their business).

Initech

(100,029 posts)
21. Agreed!
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:46 PM
Oct 2021

My company does a lot of work for one, though I can't say which because of non disclosure agreements.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
6. Geezuz....
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:54 PM
Oct 2021

Are you for real?

jimfields33

(15,670 posts)
7. I swear. Airplanes never would have happened had the internet been around then
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:56 PM
Oct 2021

Nor trains or cars, etc.

JohnSJ

(92,060 posts)
8. It will be a reality one day. I suspect when those who sailed in the primitive ships in the ocean,
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:57 PM
Oct 2021

or the flights of the Wright brothers, etc. some thought the same thing

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
9. Cheery thought. Old exploratory sailing vessels used to sink with some regularity...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:58 PM
Oct 2021

… as they tried to make it around the globe. If scurvy didn’t get you, vicious weather would.

What ails you?

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
10. Several of those corporate rockets have blown up during testing...check youtube.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:07 PM
Oct 2021

just like many NASA rockets blew up during testing.

Capitalism has its greedy little paws on space and it isn't going anywhere.

It was in fact inevitable.

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
18. Capitalism drove hundreds of years of sailing exploration in search of new trade routes
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:43 PM
Oct 2021

Curiosity has always been with us — and so has the profit motive.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
11. That is a horrible thing to wish for
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:14 PM
Oct 2021

Seriously messed up

Mr.Bill

(24,228 posts)
12. Will the entire Trump family fit
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:16 PM
Oct 2021

in one of those rockets?

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
13. What a horrible post n/t
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:31 PM
Oct 2021

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
14. You are being far too charitable
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:33 PM
Oct 2021

relayerbob

(6,536 posts)
15. I hate cars, too.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:41 PM
Oct 2021

Why them folks gone scare my horses and knock my cart over.

Happy Hoosier

(7,210 posts)
16. Wow. NT
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:42 PM
Oct 2021

OAITW r.2.0

(24,286 posts)
17. Well, this post ain't going into space. nt
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:42 PM
Oct 2021

hardluck

(637 posts)
19. You seem giddy by the prospect
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:44 PM
Oct 2021

What a disturbing post.

tritsofme

(17,367 posts)
20. This is some sick shit right here.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:45 PM
Oct 2021

Grow up.

Response to traitorsgalore (Original post)

Initech

(100,029 posts)
23. This is a really terrible post. Delete this.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:50 PM
Oct 2021

Patton French

(743 posts)
27. Oh, such an unpleasant thought.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 09:15 PM
Oct 2021

Best not said out loud.

Zeitghost

(3,844 posts)
32. I remember a day
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 12:19 AM
Oct 2021

when liberals championed technology, curiosity and exploration into the unknown. Now some cheer for the disasters that sometimes come when boundaries are tested.

Then again, maybe it's always been there and the anonymity of the internet brings out the worst of some people.

obnoxiousdrunk

(2,909 posts)
36. Those were the days when
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 12:33 AM
Oct 2021

Liberals had their lights on for Halloween and candy for the kids.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
33. You couldn't be more wrong.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 12:23 AM
Oct 2021

SMDH

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
35. Wow. Dark.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 12:26 AM
Oct 2021

Everyone knows there is risk involved. Hopefully they will retire the rocket long before it fails due to metal stress.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
37. What a sick post, disgusting. 👎🙄 nt
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:24 AM
Oct 2021

Shrek

(3,975 posts)
39. The Titanic ended cruising once and for all
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:32 AM
Oct 2021
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