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https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-will-face-immediate-charges-if-he-doesnt-show-up-for-capitol-riot-testimony?ref=homeHouse Riot Panel Will Immediately Pursue Charges Against Steve Bannon if Hes a No-Show
HIGH NOON
Jamie Ross
News Correspondent
Published Oct. 14, 2021 6:21AM ET
Bettie
(16,086 posts)because it needs to happen, otherwise congressional subpoenas mean nothing.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)Ooops.
Champp
(2,114 posts)As enshrined in the laws of these United States.
Charge them. Try them. Convict them with factual evidence.
And then LOCK THE TRAITOR REPUBLICANS UP.
For a long, long time.
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)He has no Executive Privilege to assert.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)kentuck
(111,076 posts)They were attempting to overturn an election. It was an insurrection.
spanone
(135,816 posts)plimsoll
(1,668 posts)seriously, every time I see 'riot' it makes me annoyed.
Midnight Writer
(21,738 posts)I understand he hangs out in a yacht offshore owned by a Chinese billionaire. That sounds like flight risk to me.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)spanone
(135,816 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)To my ear and observation, Garland is well-steeped in DOJ and DC history and function. I think I recall he occasionally cites rulings from the mid to late 1800s. So whichever way he goes it won't be some modern quack interpretation. He doesn't need to be a crusader, just adhere to obscure precedents here and there at key points. This is such a time.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Because DOJ isn't even bothering to prosecute (or ask for sentences) for most of the rioters.
I am not optimistic.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)to clear the docket and leave no inconsistencies (acquittals). Then increase the penalties as you move up the chain of responsibility for the insurrection. In many respects the incitement was more of a crime than the riot itself, however seditious their intent. Without incitement they would have stayed home, or been more peaceful.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)plimsoll
(1,668 posts)I've been looking at the behavior since the beginning of the Biden admin. I think the DOJ considers a huge swath of the Trump supporters terrorists. Swooping in and giving these folks the perp walk Rudy was famous for would be an excuse on those on the right are looking for to screech "Government overreach," and make martyrs of these guys. It's seems as though the government is treating these folks like the terrorists they are. The low-level foot soldiers are mostly getting minor charges while they work their way up the food chain. Sadly if that's the model, then Trump will not face criminal charges. You need to leave the figurehead free, muzzled and neutered.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Sorry, that's not making any sense to me.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)We've had at least a decade of anti-democracy terrorism in this country. Pretending that it doesn't exist hasn't worked, but over-reacting is exactly what their leadership wants. They seem to be treating them like the pawns they are. I think they aren't getting enough time, but except for the idiots who decide to push the judges buttons the DOJ isn't really pursuing maximal punishment for the physically present insurrectionists. The figurehead needs to be neutered of all access to power, and the captains of the insurrection need to be discredited and imprisoned, our own Spandau.
Bannon may be the first of the real instigators and movers of the movement to misstep. Trump can pursue "executive privilege" today, but there's no law saying Biden has to provide it, this particular direction has no precedent of statute to support it. That seems to be Bannon's push, but he's pursuing the maximal insult to the framework of government. If he doesn't testify, he and the GOP send a clear message that the rule of law doesn't apply to them.
That said, sending an armed SWAT team to take Bannon would make him the martyr they seem to be trying to avoid. Sure the faithful already think they're being mistreated, but they think that anyway. You want to reduce their supporters not increase them by proving their point. So it's important to make all of them look like the terrorist/criminal elements they are.
As others pointed out, Bannon hangs out offshore with a Chinese "businessman." Wherever he's holed up, unless he's already fled, put him in a state of siege, cut the power, cut the water, stop food from entering, and by all means disable the electronics. Sure he might be able to get to the dark net, but that only demonstrates the criminal connection.
AllaN01Bear
(18,119 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,119 posts)i hope they go after the people who did the violence too also.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)There shoul never be a "maybe" involved!
mcar
(42,298 posts)I'm noticing the media falling back on that false claim. Judy Woodruff used the word the other night when she interviewed Adam Schiff.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It sure would be nice to have a liberal media.
mcar
(42,298 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)KS Toronado
(17,189 posts)With reQublicOns owning most of MSM, before long they'll be calling it "The friendly Tourist Rally"
malaise
(268,890 posts)RFN!
thinkingagain
(906 posts)Put a block on the passports and make it so they cant leave the country if they dont show up. Because I can see at least some fleeing the country to avoid talking.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)They know that nothing is going to happen to them here.
thinkingagain
(906 posts)Have hope that all the guilty will be charged. Then others I think like you they will all get away with it. This morning I had a positive moment. 😊
marmar
(77,067 posts)Hotler
(11,412 posts)CIA dark site in the Mideast, treat him like the terrorist he is. Keep him hosed down with cold water and kept awake 24/7 and play that Cars For Kids song over and over and over.......
marmar
(77,067 posts)lastlib
(23,204 posts)Not much is TOO cruel for the Dirtbag.
FelineOverlord
(3,572 posts)lastlib
(23,204 posts)Hotler
(11,412 posts)Dr. T
(97 posts)already on a plane heading to a country without an extradition treaty.
cate94
(2,810 posts)I hope that fucker rots in jail.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)I hope he is focused like a laser beam on what awaits him if he is a no show.
And I simultaneously hope that the threats to hold him accountable for his contempt are 100% carried out. Immediately. Go to Jail. Do not Collect $200. Do not pass go.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)My confidence in Garland's DOJ isn't exactly strong. Hope I'm wrong on this.
kentuck
(111,076 posts)They are not going to march or protest for Bannon.
So long as it is not Trump, they don't really care who is prosecuted and who goes to jail.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Should be like Soccer in a way (at least I think it is Soccer maybe Hockey not positive.) Anyway the clock in one of these sports is adjusted for penalties and other issues so that at the end the game is actually played for the regulation length of time. In tandem it would be good to see rt be able to pick up the pace a lot. The yrs its has taken to decide on issue is absurd. It took what 2-3 yrs to finally decide on Don McGahn testimony? Thats complete bull💩.
Statute of limitations on crimes should be suspended if there is an on going case in a courtroom and then the window of that limitation extended for the time the court proceedings took. DT and anyone else with the resources should not be able to use the very system it is fighting to run out the clock on being charged for a crime.
DT is fighting the executive privilege refusal by PB on the hope that the court will drag this out and the GOP will take the House in a year and end the 1/6 investigation (I still feel this should have been a special prosecutor not a committee. Dems made another huge mistake doing it this way IMO).
But also on the 27th of this month the statute of limitations is up for being able to charge DT with any criminal wrong doing in the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels. Micheal Cohen was put in jail for 3 yrs for doing what DT told him to do. That DT is going to walk away scott free for this when others were sent to jail is disgusting and DOJ/AG Garland should be ashamed of themselves for letting this happen.
I dont ever want to hear another Dem say No one is above the law when clearly that is not true.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)have worked for centuries to make sure the law doesn't work as over 2 centuries of American liberal thought intended it.
Most importantly, they are empowered by those conservative voters (not all) who feel down in their bones that a hierarchical society of greater and lesser privilege is natural, inevitable, and ultimately best. They don't want corruption and lawlessness; they want a healthy function that creates stability and protects law and order. And they are somewhat more likely to vote their beliefs than those who believe in equality.
A greater percentage of those who do don't vote, though; more are confused and don't know who they need to vote for. That's a greater weakness on the left and thus the big weakness that enables corruption of the liberal principles and ideals of our institutions.
But, no one is above the law. That's the principle and it's the law, even if powerful people can get away with breaking it.
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)If the matter has to be escalated to the DOJ, let's see what Garland does.
kentuck
(111,076 posts)At midnight?
Or is there a set time?
MiHale
(9,713 posts)Put the fear of the courts in the minds of the others.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)March his cuffed ass out and go directly to jail you traitorous POS. Then go through all of it and file charges accordingly. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Round up all these scofflaws and put them behind bars.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)I heard he had property somewhere where he is training a personal army.
Roy Rolling
(6,911 posts)Thats the proper response to a flight risk who ignores a subpoena. He can hire some lawyers to try to get him out, but he will sit in jail somewhere for a while.
With nobody who will pardon his crimes.