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babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:58 AM Oct 2021

House Riot Panel Will 'Immediately' Pursue Charges Against Steve Bannon if He's a No-Show

https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-will-face-immediate-charges-if-he-doesnt-show-up-for-capitol-riot-testimony?ref=home

House Riot Panel Will ‘Immediately’ Pursue Charges Against Steve Bannon if He’s a No-Show
HIGH NOON
Jamie Ross
News Correspondent
Published Oct. 14, 2021 6:21AM ET



Steve Bannon has a choice to make today: Either he appears for a deposition as ordered by House committee investigating the Capitol riot, or the panel will immediately pursue criminal contempt charges against him. CNN reports the committee is getting ready to seek a referral for criminal contempt as soon as the ex-Trump adviser’s subpoena deadline expires later today. Bannon’s lawyer made clear in a letter Wednesday that his client has absolutely no intention of giving testimony or handing documents to the committee until a ruling is made over whether former President Donald Trump can assert executive privilege to prevent witnesses from speaking to the panel. CNN’s sources said the committee would take the initial steps to send a referral to the Department of Justice within hours of Thursday’s deadline. Three other Trump administration officials face subpoena deadlines this week.
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House Riot Panel Will 'Immediately' Pursue Charges Against Steve Bannon if He's a No-Show (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2021 OP
Good to hear Bettie Oct 2021 #1
He must have forgotten that Trump is no longer in control and Trump's stooge Barr is no longer AG SouthernDem4ever Oct 2021 #54
Yes. Republican traitors deserve swift justice Champp Oct 2021 #2
TFG is no longer in office UpInArms Oct 2021 #3
And Bannon was not part of the Executive Branch on 1/6. rateyes Oct 2021 #48
The term "riot" seems a little dismissive to me? kentuck Oct 2021 #4
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Words matter. plimsoll Oct 2021 #9
Agreed Bettie Oct 2021 #55
Like other accused felons, he should sit in jail until a ruling is made. Midnight Writer Oct 2021 #5
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Oct 2021 #11
Let him rot in a federal prison. spanone Oct 2021 #6
Very good. Will Garland's DOJ cooperate? lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #7
I hope and believe it will bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #12
You think he'll treat Trump's henchmen more seriously than the rioters? lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #18
Yes, I think the action so far has been bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #22
I'm Not Optimistic Either nt SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #23
Almost certainly. plimsoll Oct 2021 #14
So DOJ will mete out justice by letting everybody go? lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #19
That's not what I said. plimsoll Oct 2021 #49
get rid of garland. AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #38
+1 Not getting the main job done. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #45
This should be a given for anyone who does not comply! SheltieLover Oct 2021 #10
that should go with all the r congresscritters who signed the az lawsuit too. AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #39
Absolutely! SheltieLover Oct 2021 #40
"Riot Panel" mcar Oct 2021 #13
Isn't it the Insurrection Select Committee? lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #20
It would be nice to have an honest media mcar Oct 2021 #24
Even better. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #27
I've noticed also how they downplay what the Committee is called KS Toronado Oct 2021 #32
Lock him up malaise Oct 2021 #15
I hope all these subpoena's such as Bannon's that they thinkingagain Oct 2021 #16
No Need For Them To Flee The Country SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #26
Some days or at least moments of time I thinkingagain Oct 2021 #31
Waterboard him. marmar Oct 2021 #17
Rendition & waterboarding. Whisk his fat ass away to a Hotler Oct 2021 #25
Ok the Cars for Kids song might be a bit cruel and unusual. marmar Oct 2021 #28
How about "You're Havin' My Baby"? lastlib Oct 2021 #30
How about "Feelings" sung by Eunice? FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #43
On a loop.......! lastlib Oct 2021 #52
Ya right, I'll wait till it happens. nt Hotler Oct 2021 #21
Babyface Bannon is probably Dr. T Oct 2021 #29
Honestly cate94 Oct 2021 #33
Nothing focuses the mind quite like a potential prison term. Grammy23 Oct 2021 #34
I'll believe it when and if it actually happens. Paladin Oct 2021 #35
The Trump Cult doesn't give a hoot about Bannon or Meadows or any other collaborators... kentuck Oct 2021 #36
The Law Snackshack Oct 2021 #37
No one is above the law. Not to me. But very powerful people Hortensis Oct 2021 #46
Well, I guess people here will still be able to complain about AG Garland..... brooklynite Oct 2021 #41
Bannon is free and flipping the bird at the committee and DOJ CentralMass Oct 2021 #56
When is the deadline? kentuck Oct 2021 #42
They should be as nasty as they can with Bannon... MiHale Oct 2021 #44
No-knock middle of the night FBI raid aka Stoney. Get all his electronics, weapons, everything. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #47
Please don't stop with Bannon. BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #50
Has he left the country never to return? scarytomcat Oct 2021 #51
Lock Him Up Roy Rolling Oct 2021 #53

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
54. He must have forgotten that Trump is no longer in control and Trump's stooge Barr is no longer AG
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 05:14 PM
Oct 2021

Ooops.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
2. Yes. Republican traitors deserve swift justice
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:13 AM
Oct 2021

As enshrined in the laws of these United States.

Charge them. Try them. Convict them with factual evidence.

And then LOCK THE TRAITOR REPUBLICANS UP.

For a long, long time.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
4. The term "riot" seems a little dismissive to me?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:32 AM
Oct 2021

They were attempting to overturn an election. It was an insurrection.

Midnight Writer

(21,738 posts)
5. Like other accused felons, he should sit in jail until a ruling is made.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:17 AM
Oct 2021

I understand he hangs out in a yacht offshore owned by a Chinese billionaire. That sounds like flight risk to me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
12. I hope and believe it will
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:27 AM
Oct 2021

To my ear and observation, Garland is well-steeped in DOJ and DC history and function. I think I recall he occasionally cites rulings from the mid to late 1800s. So whichever way he goes it won't be some modern quack interpretation. He doesn't need to be a crusader, just adhere to obscure precedents here and there at key points. This is such a time.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. You think he'll treat Trump's henchmen more seriously than the rioters?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:35 AM
Oct 2021

Because DOJ isn't even bothering to prosecute (or ask for sentences) for most of the rioters.

I am not optimistic.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
22. Yes, I think the action so far has been
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:45 AM
Oct 2021

to clear the docket and leave no inconsistencies (acquittals). Then increase the penalties as you move up the chain of responsibility for the insurrection. In many respects the incitement was more of a crime than the riot itself, however seditious their intent. Without incitement they would have stayed home, or been more peaceful.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
14. Almost certainly.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:29 AM
Oct 2021

I've been looking at the behavior since the beginning of the Biden admin. I think the DOJ considers a huge swath of the Trump supporters terrorists. Swooping in and giving these folks the perp walk Rudy was famous for would be an excuse on those on the right are looking for to screech "Government overreach," and make martyrs of these guys. It's seems as though the government is treating these folks like the terrorists they are. The low-level foot soldiers are mostly getting minor charges while they work their way up the food chain. Sadly if that's the model, then Trump will not face criminal charges. You need to leave the figurehead free, muzzled and neutered.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
49. That's not what I said.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:45 AM
Oct 2021

We've had at least a decade of anti-democracy terrorism in this country. Pretending that it doesn't exist hasn't worked, but over-reacting is exactly what their leadership wants. They seem to be treating them like the pawns they are. I think they aren't getting enough time, but except for the idiots who decide to push the judges buttons the DOJ isn't really pursuing maximal punishment for the physically present insurrectionists. The figurehead needs to be neutered of all access to power, and the captains of the insurrection need to be discredited and imprisoned, our own Spandau.

Bannon may be the first of the real instigators and movers of the movement to misstep. Trump can pursue "executive privilege" today, but there's no law saying Biden has to provide it, this particular direction has no precedent of statute to support it. That seems to be Bannon's push, but he's pursuing the maximal insult to the framework of government. If he doesn't testify, he and the GOP send a clear message that the rule of law doesn't apply to them.

That said, sending an armed SWAT team to take Bannon would make him the martyr they seem to be trying to avoid. Sure the faithful already think they're being mistreated, but they think that anyway. You want to reduce their supporters not increase them by proving their point. So it's important to make all of them look like the terrorist/criminal elements they are.

As others pointed out, Bannon hangs out offshore with a Chinese "businessman." Wherever he's holed up, unless he's already fled, put him in a state of siege, cut the power, cut the water, stop food from entering, and by all means disable the electronics. Sure he might be able to get to the dark net, but that only demonstrates the criminal connection.

AllaN01Bear

(18,119 posts)
39. that should go with all the r congresscritters who signed the az lawsuit too.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:23 AM
Oct 2021

i hope they go after the people who did the violence too also.

mcar

(42,298 posts)
13. "Riot Panel"
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:28 AM
Oct 2021

I'm noticing the media falling back on that false claim. Judy Woodruff used the word the other night when she interviewed Adam Schiff.

KS Toronado

(17,189 posts)
32. I've noticed also how they downplay what the Committee is called
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:58 AM
Oct 2021

With reQublicOns owning most of MSM, before long they'll be calling it "The friendly Tourist Rally"

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
16. I hope all these subpoena's such as Bannon's that they
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:29 AM
Oct 2021

Put a block on the passports and make it so they can’t leave the country if they don’t show up. Because I can see at least some fleeing the country to avoid talking.

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
31. Some days or at least moments of time I
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:58 AM
Oct 2021

Have hope that all the guilty will be charged. Then others I think like you they will all get away with it. This morning I had a positive moment. 😊

Hotler

(11,412 posts)
25. Rendition & waterboarding. Whisk his fat ass away to a
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:46 AM
Oct 2021

CIA dark site in the Mideast, treat him like the terrorist he is. Keep him hosed down with cold water and kept awake 24/7 and play that Cars For Kids song over and over and over.......

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
34. Nothing focuses the mind quite like a potential prison term.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:00 AM
Oct 2021


I hope he is focused like a laser beam on what awaits him if he is a no show.

And I simultaneously hope that the threats to hold him accountable for his contempt are 100% carried out. Immediately. Go to Jail. Do not Collect $200. Do not pass go.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
35. I'll believe it when and if it actually happens.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:06 AM
Oct 2021

My confidence in Garland's DOJ isn't exactly strong. Hope I'm wrong on this.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
36. The Trump Cult doesn't give a hoot about Bannon or Meadows or any other collaborators...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:07 AM
Oct 2021

They are not going to march or protest for Bannon.

So long as it is not Trump, they don't really care who is prosecuted and who goes to jail.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
37. The Law
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:14 AM
Oct 2021

Should be like Soccer in a way (at least I think it is Soccer maybe Hockey not positive.) Anyway the clock in one of these sports is adjusted for penalties and other issues so that at the end the game is actually played for the regulation length of time. In tandem it would be good to see rt be able to pick up the pace a lot. The yrs it’s has taken to decide on issue is absurd. It took what 2-3 yrs to finally decide on Don McGahn testimony? That’s complete bull💩.

Statute of limitations on crimes should be suspended if there is an on going case in a courtroom and then the window of that limitation extended for the time the court proceedings took. DT and anyone else with the resources should not be able to use the very system it is fighting to run out the clock on being charged for a crime.

DT is fighting the executive privilege refusal by PB on the hope that the court will drag this out and the GOP will take the House in a year and end the 1/6 investigation (I still feel this should have been a special prosecutor not a committee. Dems made another huge mistake doing it this way IMO).

But also on the 27th of this month the statute of limitations is up for being able to charge DT with any criminal wrong doing in the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels. Micheal Cohen was put in jail for 3 yrs for doing what DT told him to do. That DT is going to walk away scott free for this when others were sent to jail is disgusting and DOJ/AG Garland should be ashamed of themselves for letting this happen.

I don’t ever want to hear another Dem say “No one is above the law” when clearly that is not true.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. No one is above the law. Not to me. But very powerful people
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:38 AM
Oct 2021

have worked for centuries to make sure the law doesn't work as over 2 centuries of American liberal thought intended it.

Most importantly, they are empowered by those conservative voters (not all) who feel down in their bones that a hierarchical society of greater and lesser privilege is natural, inevitable, and ultimately best. They don't want corruption and lawlessness; they want a healthy function that creates stability and protects law and order. And they are somewhat more likely to vote their beliefs than those who believe in equality.

A greater percentage of those who do don't vote, though; more are confused and don't know who they need to vote for. That's a greater weakness on the left and thus the big weakness that enables corruption of the liberal principles and ideals of our institutions.

But, no one is above the law. That's the principle and it's the law, even if powerful people can get away with breaking it.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
56. Bannon is free and flipping the bird at the committee and DOJ
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 05:07 AM
Oct 2021

If the matter has to be escalated to the DOJ, let's see what Garland does.

MiHale

(9,713 posts)
44. They should be as nasty as they can with Bannon...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:33 AM
Oct 2021

Put the fear of the courts in the minds of the others.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
47. No-knock middle of the night FBI raid aka Stoney. Get all his electronics, weapons, everything.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:43 AM
Oct 2021

March his cuffed ass out and go directly to jail you traitorous POS. Then go through all of it and file charges accordingly. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
51. Has he left the country never to return?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:55 AM
Oct 2021

I heard he had property somewhere where he is training a personal army.

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
53. Lock Him Up
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:54 PM
Oct 2021
LOCK HIM UP

That’s the proper response to a flight risk who ignores a subpoena. He can hire some lawyers to try to get him out, but he will sit in jail somewhere for a while.

With nobody who will pardon his crimes.
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