So this Christine Todd Whitman/Miles Taylor thing is just a 3rd party movement.

[bullwinkle428]

News reports of the last couple of days have been stating the main goal of these "former Republicans" was to attempt to get everyone to vote for Democrats across the country, given that their old party is trying to destroy democracy in so many different ways.

Today on "Morning Joe", C.T.W. just went full "both-siderism", claiming that "I've heard from just as many Democrats concerned that their party has become too extreme". Of course, not one person on the panel had the brains or the stones to question her about just one example of "too extreme" on the part of Democrats.

She claims that she will be releasing a list of sorts, with politicians from both parties that meet her standard of "sufficiently center-right or center-left". Revealing herself as just another grifter.

[samnsara]

1. yes i feel there are a cpl kooks in the dem party but thats NEVER going to make me vote for

..ANY repug...

[PatSeg]

23. I agree, there have always been a few kooks

in the Democratic party, but the republican party has become predominantly kooks and unsavory sycophants. How could anyone ever trust them again? These so-called "sane and reasonable" republicans belonged to the party all the years that they shamelessly catered to the "deplorables", making promises they never intended to keep, all to get more votes and hold on to power.

The many compromises they made for votes were instrumental in bringing us to where we are today. Their shameless political games and dishonesty created a monster they cannot control, so they don't get any second chances.

[kentuck]

2. Sounds to me like they are attempting to rebuild the Republican Party..

..with "Never Trumpers" and centrist Democrats? My hunch is that they would draw more Republicans than Democrats to their cause.

[bullwinkle428]

6. Being an Iowa resident, and having watched that utterly disgusting display

this past weekend, where every Iowa Republican was up on that dais with Needy Amin, slobbering all over him, I wouldn't count on a ton of rank-and-file members rushing off to join a 3rd party movement.

[PatSeg]

24. I think they distrust "Never Trump" republicans

as much as they distrust Democrats. It could take a generation or two before they can put together a reasonable conservative party that voters would trust. Too much damage has been done.

[pwb]

3. I support that move.

Please proceed.

[malaise]

4. When healthcare, fair wages, child care, decent education

and modern infrastructure are viewed as extreme, we are in deep fucking trouble.
What is extreme is billionaires owning politicians.
Fight back

[The Wizard]

10. nailed it

[malaise]

5. When healthcare, fair wages, child care, decent education

and modern infrastructure are viewed as extreme, we are in deep fucking trouble.
What is extreme is billionaires owning politicians.
Fight back

[Diamond_Dog]

17. +100

[dutch777]

7. Yep, trying to again become relevant and/or grifting

I think until someone defines a third party by specific policy positions, rather than the more generic "center right or center left", they don't seem serious to me. So, your grifting possibility is very real in my mind. I do think there is some space and some people that remain quite interested in "other" or "none of the above". In many ways I think those folks are the ones that pushed Trump over the top and then did Biden the same favor after realizing Trump was not just "other" but crazy dangerous.

I worry something centrist will pull more Dems than Reps. If there must be a third party, I would hope for someone even more right than Trump and just kill everything far right of center. Probably too much to hope for.

[Fullduplexxx]

8. Ctw was the one who said the air around the 9-11 site was safe to breathe

So people could be sent in and get the gold out of the rubble. Now they all have mesothelioma

[bullwinkle428]

15. Thank you. This will always be her most enduring legacy in my eyes.

[Lovie777]

9. Democrats in most party regardless of being "conservative" . . ..

most will not vote for a republican. As to "moderate" Democrats', majority will not vote for a republican. Therefore, the "never" trumpers need to focus on their own party's voting.

[Irish_Dem]

11. They screwed up their own party, now going after the Dems. Want to move us to the right.

[3Hotdogs]

12. CTW drove the N.J. treasury into debt from which they still have not been able to liquidate.

[3Hotdogs]

13. CTW drove the N.J. treasury into debt from which they still have not been able to liquidate.

She "Borrowed" billions from the state pension fund but forgot that the second half of borrowing is that you pay back what you borrowed.

FUCK HER ! On second thought, I wouldn't want to.

[FalloutShelter]

21. CTW stood in the wreckage of Ground Zero

And declared the air was safe to breathe.
Tell that to the thousands who have died from 9/11 related cancers. Double fuck her.
Not forgiven.

[lark]

14. Was there ever any doubt about her grifterism?

She was a repug after all for a reason and hypocricy and grifting describes her as well as the party she claims she left.

[eShirl]

16. R's who can't bring themselves to vote D can vote for them

works for me

[Midnight Writer]

18. To a Republican, being honest is "too extreme".

She is the Bush tool who declared the WTC rubble was tested and safe and workers didn't need safety gear, even though that is a ridiculous claim. Those workers that are still alive are still suffering from working on that job.

That is unforgiveable in my mind.

[JHB]

19. Oh look, more "Problem Solvers" who don't identify problems nor offer solutions

Same old same-old. They still look at us like we're radicals for wanting economic policies that are still more conservative than those of the Eisenhower administration.

[Me.]

20. AH Yes Miss Governor The Air Is Safe Here On The Pile On 9/11

She has a lot of nerve and I wouldn't trust her for a second

[Hortensis]

22. She has to appeal to moderate conservatives, and also the kind of

"indies" and LWers who swing with the propaganda breezes, inadequately anchored by concerns about a dictatorship or extreme cruelty to children but persuadable.

OF COURSE, Morning Joe is where moderate cons go to speak to those potential voters.