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JUST IN: Contempt proceedings against Bannon to begin Tuesday. (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2021 OP
Throw that asshole in prison and weld the door shut. grumpyduck Oct 2021 #1
Use Epstein's cell. It's available. Captain Zero Oct 2021 #54
But the committee wasn't going to do anything about them? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #2
Also read that many times here...hopefully never again...👍 Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #17
Let me know when he is actually imprisoned quakerboy Oct 2021 #65
Great News malaise Oct 2021 #3
Yes. Perhaps Bannon's referral is meant to encourage others Hortensis Oct 2021 #28
Bannon did show up after he was subpoenaed malaise Oct 2021 #36
:) The 5th huh? From what I've read, Bannon's famous for Hortensis Oct 2021 #44
True malaise Oct 2021 #46
Good. I missed that one. Some time ago he reportedly learned Hortensis Oct 2021 #63
Prosecute the whole stinking bunch C_U_L8R Oct 2021 #4
why wait? Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #5
My thought. Today! But I don't know the game. Hortensis Oct 2021 #18
Exactly my thoughts. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #21
indeed. Europe is where it's all happening now. Even Sinema going for her fundraiser. Tucker live Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #59
It is going to the house floor for a vote on Tuesday Bev54 Oct 2021 #33
I am not sure DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #55
I thought they were supposed to be off this week but were called back for a vote Bev54 Oct 2021 #56
Thx Bev! NC DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #61
Because there is a process malaise Oct 2021 #38
Who is the US Attorney for the District of Columbia? kentuck Oct 2021 #6
Acting...so serves at pleasure of the President...as we should well know since Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #8
Are you implying that a Biden appointee wouldn't act? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #10
It's is good to considerwhat roadblocks the fascists may try to set up, but agree this Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #12
They could try and interfere with the Grand Jury, I suppose? kentuck Oct 2021 #19
Grand jury convened by a Biden appointee in secret, as they all are. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #29
Congressional contempt referrals haven't been acted upon in decades. Calista241 Oct 2021 #43
If DOJ doesn't convene the Grand Jury, the Committee will issue a Inherent-Contempt report Justice matters. Oct 2021 #50
Can you name an instance where the AG under a Democratic president didn't enforce Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #57
Eric Holder was held in contempt by a Republican congress. Calista241 Oct 2021 #64
Herr's puppet AGs and US Attorneys refused to enforce the clear, detailed, if Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #7
Adam Schiff: "We've said it before, and we'll say it again: We're not messing around here." demmiblue Oct 2021 #9
Will Bannon stick around? Nittersing Oct 2021 #11
Quick indictment and bail hearing with travel restrictions.... Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #16
Especially when considering which countries he'd be safe Hortensis Oct 2021 #20
Good point 😂, Bannon seeking refuge in a non-extradition country...maybe Madagascar? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #31
Brazil malaise Oct 2021 #39
Hoping Biden has put him on the terrorist watch list...refused egress at the airport. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #41
As to the second question, hubris. demmiblue Oct 2021 #24
K&R UTUSN Oct 2021 #13
I hope DOJ cooperates. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #14
Really? Haven't heard. What are they? Hortensis Oct 2021 #22
Low level insurrectionists are routinely being sentenced to Cancun vacations, lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #25
Well, yes, although these creeps are only low level by nature. Hortensis Oct 2021 #42
If the US Attorney sends it to the Grand Jury... kentuck Oct 2021 #23
That's the first step. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #26
In my opinion, it's helpful to remember that they are not prosecuting Donald Trump... kentuck Oct 2021 #32
They're not really prosecuting anybody, yet. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #34
The Slobfather cannot protect him this time around malaise Oct 2021 #47
The magic 8-ball says that to me all the time. murielm99 Oct 2021 #58
They REALLY need to impose prison time. Otherwise these slimes will just continue Maraya1969 Oct 2021 #15
First step is the committee report, then acceptance by Garland, then grand jury, Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #35
"flout" lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #37
Guess some people here and elsewhere on SM were wrong mcar Oct 2021 #27
Say hello to Bubba! ffr Oct 2021 #30
Does a warrant get issued for his arrest by the US Attorney? Sogo Oct 2021 #40
No. The Contempt of Congress legal Report is passed on to the House first. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #51
They can all avoid saying or giving anything to anyone by saying it's a partisan investigation, Calista241 Oct 2021 #45
what does that have to do with a subpoena? stillcool Oct 2021 #49
Yes, This is The Process, Good. This is how the system works. Some may find it frustrating, but it's Beetwasher. Oct 2021 #48
Lock Him Up! ITower68 Oct 2021 #52
Throw him and the others in jail just like they did Ms. McDougal Catherine Vincent Oct 2021 #53
Cuff and stuff. I don't care where, how, or what force is necessary to achieve compliance. nt Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #60
I hope proceedings equals signing, dating and sending first thing Tuesaday morning. Hotler Oct 2021 #62

quakerboy

(13,917 posts)
65. Let me know when he is actually imprisoned
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:12 AM
Oct 2021

Till then its words on paper. I have shelves full of paper with compellingly arraigned words, and while i value them highly, they only run about $5 per hundred thousand in normal commercial situations.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Yes. Perhaps Bannon's referral is meant to encourage others
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:16 PM
Oct 2021

to cooperate more. I'd read there's actually been hopeful speculation that we might not prosecute. Ridiculous, but we know most around that culthole seem to be exceptionally good at believing what they want to.

malaise

(268,715 posts)
36. Bannon did show up after he was subpoenaed
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:28 PM
Oct 2021

during the Slobfather's administration.

Heard someone suggest that he may plead the 5th

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. :) The 5th huh? From what I've read, Bannon's famous for
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:50 PM
Oct 2021

high risk behaviors. Look at him defrauding people for supposed "wall" donations while he knew he was on the FBI's radar.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
63. Good. I missed that one. Some time ago he reportedly learned
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 05:15 PM
Oct 2021

his election subversion would be illegal in most of the dozen or so European nations he planned to attack, so he seemingly backed away from those in time. And/or candidates refused to get involved and go to prison for it.

Evolve Dammit

(16,697 posts)
59. indeed. Europe is where it's all happening now. Even Sinema going for her fundraiser. Tucker live
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:32 PM
Oct 2021

from Hungary. Bannon's school in Italy. The authoritarianism seems global in scale and Ukraine/ Russia/ Orange Dumbfuck/ Manafort/ Flynn, Giuliani was the first inkling I had as to the scope. And that is tip of the massive iceberg. Do all roads lead to Putin, who wants us in a racially divided civil war?

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
33. It is going to the house floor for a vote on Tuesday
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:23 PM
Oct 2021

I didn't think they were in session right now.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
55. I am not sure
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:19 PM
Oct 2021

that the house or senate works on Mondays and Fridays unless forced to for some reason.......

If I am correct.....nice work if you can find it.........

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
56. I thought they were supposed to be off this week but were called back for a vote
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:25 PM
Oct 2021

and then were off again. I just checked the calendars and yes they are off for the rest of the week for committee business, whatever that is. They are back on Monday.

malaise

(268,715 posts)
38. Because there is a process
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:29 PM
Oct 2021

It was explained on CNN - a Committee has to meet and then there is a full House vote

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
8. Acting...so serves at pleasure of the President...as we should well know since
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 01:57 PM
Oct 2021

Herr replaced people as often as needed everywhere…but as appointed by Biden see little issue.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,972 posts)
10. Are you implying that a Biden appointee wouldn't act?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 01:59 PM
Oct 2021

He was appointed in March 2021. And had previously served under Obama.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
12. It's is good to considerwhat roadblocks the fascists may try to set up, but agree this
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:02 PM
Oct 2021

President Biden appointee is not one of them…and I highly suspect Biden saw this moment in history coming and appointed the correct US Attorney.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
19. They could try and interfere with the Grand Jury, I suppose?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:10 PM
Oct 2021

But that would not be legal.

As if illegality would ever have anything to do with it.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
29. Grand jury convened by a Biden appointee in secret, as they all are.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:17 PM
Oct 2021

Wouldn’t worry about that.

Frankly if the AG, appointed by Biden, and the Acting AG responsible for prosecuting contempt of Congress, also appointed by Biden,accept the contempt report the committee will submit to them…the wheels of justice will spin fast… other indictments on the same fast track, will happen.

Contempt of Congress will be…must be…treated same as contempt of court…with rapidity.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
43. Congressional contempt referrals haven't been acted upon in decades.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:47 PM
Oct 2021

Why Biden's administration will be different about it is something that will have to be proven by actions.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,551 posts)
57. Can you name an instance where the AG under a Democratic president didn't enforce
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:28 PM
Oct 2021

A criminal contempt referral from Congress?

The only ones I can think of were AGs under Republican presidents when Dems had the house.

Were there any criminal contempt referrals by a Dem congress under Obama or Clinton (besides Susan McDougal)? Carter? Johnson?

This could be new territory, at least in my lifetime…

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
7. Herr's puppet AGs and US Attorneys refused to enforce the clear, detailed, if
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 01:54 PM
Oct 2021

somewhat complex constitutional and Congressional procedure mandated…Barr and any US Attorney under his control…all of them technically, would not have indicted for congressional contempt.

The ball is now rolling towards actual criminal trials for contempt because before Herr and Barr left their mess for us to clean up the contempt ball would inevitably have hit a legal stone wall.

So the answer to “why didn’t Democrats do something before, in the dark ages?

This letter to America explains the answer…there is light now at the end of the prosecutorial and enforcement tunnel.

demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
9. Adam Schiff: "We've said it before, and we'll say it again: We're not messing around here."
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 01:57 PM
Oct 2021
We’ve said it before, and we’ll say it again:

We’re not messing around here.

People with relevant information to our investigation into January 6 must comply with lawful subpoenas.

If they don’t, we will use all the tools at our disposal — including criminal contempt.



 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
16. Quick indictment and bail hearing with travel restrictions....
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

or flight to another country, guilt by flight presumption, and extradition proceedings.

Am good with that too.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Especially when considering which countries he'd be safe
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:10 PM
Oct 2021

from extradition in. It'd put a real crimp in his world revolution.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. Low level insurrectionists are routinely being sentenced to Cancun vacations,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:13 PM
Oct 2021

with DOJ approval.

That is fucking dangerous and unacceptable. These people need to be severely punished.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. Well, yes, although these creeps are only low level by nature.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:45 PM
Oct 2021

Unfortunately, if the deals we need are made, we already know we're likely to be disappointed in eventual punishments. 30 year minimum as a beginning!

Oh well. Anyway, remember, the DoJ's usual tactic is to work its way up the criminal hierarchy. These guys were working directly with DT in the last days, including Bannon outside, so they weren't so low. Not even one degree of separation. And Mark Meadows was his chief of staff!

I just hope they start cracking like window glass. Twerpie Kash Patel was a clerk who became a major agent in DT's battle with the intelligence agencies. What was he supposed to do if DT'd succeeded in making him director of the FBI (!) or assistant director of the CIA (!)? He was all over the place. And what does he know about why the National Guard wasn't brought in earlier when he was the chief of staff for DT's highly questionable acting SoD? 100 other initial questions, probably every one with a "you can't make this stuff up" answer.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
26. That's the first step.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:15 PM
Oct 2021

Also have to push for conviction and push for serious prison time.

Not a trip to Cancun.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
32. In my opinion, it's helpful to remember that they are not prosecuting Donald Trump...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:22 PM
Oct 2021

...they are prosecuting Steve Bannon.

No one cares about protecting him, except Trump.

Trump will probably make a statement about Bannon similar to the one he made about Paul Manafort? How he was a good man and it is a disgrace what they are doing to him...blah...blah.. blah..

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
15. They REALLY need to impose prison time. Otherwise these slimes will just continue
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

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over and over to flout the law in the faces of the American people.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
35. First step is the committee report, then acceptance by Garland, then grand jury,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:26 PM
Oct 2021

then indictment, then trial, then sentence.

But it’s criminal contempt of Congress so it will move fast as all criminal contempt must, and does.

Since the committee report is all the evidence the grand jury will need, expect that to take like an hour with coffee break.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
51. No. The Contempt of Congress legal Report is passed on to the House first.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:25 PM
Oct 2021
Then the full House votes on it. Once passed, Criminal Contempt is referred to the DOJ for it to convene a Grand Jury.

The GJ then must vote on it: A 50% + 1 (majority rule) verdict means an arrest warrant is issued Legally.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
45. They can all avoid saying or giving anything to anyone by saying it's a partisan investigation,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:51 PM
Oct 2021

the committee is going to make up shit, or present anything in the worse possible light, and as a result, they're pleading the 5th. Which is probably what will happen if this does ever appear before a judge. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
49. what does that have to do with a subpoena?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:03 PM
Oct 2021

they say whatever and do whatever, but they if there are legal consequences for failing to appear, all their talk does nothing.

Beetwasher.

(2,968 posts)
48. Yes, This is The Process, Good. This is how the system works. Some may find it frustrating, but it's
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:59 PM
Oct 2021

what people who believe in the rule of law do. They don't round up anyone they want when the online community demands it. First, the deadline for him to respond has to pass without his response. That's what deadlines are for. It's at that point he's actually committed the crime. Now that he's committed the crime, the process to prosecute begins. Again, we don't just go rounding people up without due process. This is what due process looks like.

Hotler

(11,396 posts)
62. I hope proceedings equals signing, dating and sending first thing Tuesaday morning.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:39 PM
Oct 2021

Paper work should already be filled out. They knew this was coming.

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