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applegrove

(118,608 posts)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:01 PM Oct 2021

Pentagon Tells Greg Abbott To Stick It And Orders Defense Contractors To Get COVID Vaccine

BY JASON EASLEY at PoliticusUSA
Pentagon Tells Greg Abbott To Stick It And Orders Defense Contractors To Get COVID Vaccine

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/10/14/greg-abbott-pentagon.html

"SNIP......

The Pentagon has told federal contractors in Texas that Greg Abbott’s order doesn’t matter and they must get vaccinated.

Here was the guidance to defense contractors in Texas:

.....


Greg Abbott Does Not Have The Legal Authority To Supercede Federal Law

This is basic civics. Greg Abbott as a governor does not have the power or authority to supersede federal law/executive orders. Joe Biden is the President Of The United States. His vaccine mandate takes authority over any order that Abbott has or could issue.

Gov. Abbott can’t stop federal contractors in his state from getting the vaccine.

It is called the Supremacy Clause. It is in the Constitution. Federal law is the supreme law of the land.  Joe Biden has the authority to set the terms and conditions of employment for federal contractors.

.......SNIP"

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Pentagon Tells Greg Abbott To Stick It And Orders Defense Contractors To Get COVID Vaccine (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2021 OP
Excellent, kicking ass!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2021 #1
Abbot must really like sickly Texans sakabatou Oct 2021 #2
He likes dead Texans even better. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #25
If he had any brains, grumpyduck Oct 2021 #3
Oh, he has brains Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #4
Abbott's far from embarrassed gratuitous Oct 2021 #28
Is FL. Governor Floricovid gonna sue the Pentagon or withhold their...wait, he can't do shit. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #5
Next step - defense contractors pack up and leave the state FakeNoose Oct 2021 #6
No, There's Too Much Billable Work In Texas COL Mustard Oct 2021 #19
Lockheed in Fort Worth...n/t bluecollar2 Oct 2021 #22
We also have Port San Antonio, Randolph AFB and Lackland AFB LeftInTX Oct 2021 #29
The defense contractors will keep their mandates and Abbott won't sue them. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #30
ol' abbott sit's on his brain's & usually just fart's a lot ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #7
Like I said yesterday, these guys are using way too many keystrokes Buns_of_Fire Oct 2021 #8
It's "supersede" not "supercede" ananda Oct 2021 #9
It's fine. James48 Oct 2021 #16
Good news, but this should not even have to be said, let alone to a Governor. c-rational Oct 2021 #10
Seriously PatSeg Oct 2021 #13
Right. It's BASIC CIVICS. Captain Zero Oct 2021 #20
Sure seems like a lot of folks are telling Abbott to fuck off these days. School districts, Comfortably_Numb Oct 2021 #11
Oh I love it when the Texas governor gets set straight Dreampuff Oct 2021 #12
K&R UTUSN Oct 2021 #14
Greg Abbott is a liar and a bully and repeatedly needs to be told where to shove it! Initech Oct 2021 #15
Kenney, Premier of Alberta, who did the Abbot DeSantis trying to increase covid applegrove Oct 2021 #17
Canada's political system is not as gerrymandered as ours is. OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #24
he has some much shoved up there already, I am surprised he can sit. rurallib Oct 2021 #18
Let's see - Many more Texans vaxed because of Joe packman Oct 2021 #21
Good SunImp Oct 2021 #23
Federal law controls on Federal instalations. Patton French Oct 2021 #26
We just announced our mandate today Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #27

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
3. If he had any brains,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:24 PM
Oct 2021

he'd be embarrassed that companies, airlines, and now the Pentagon are telling him to go fuck himself.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Oh, he has brains
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:33 PM
Oct 2021

just no soul. It only matters what can grab a headline or he can make political hay with.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
28. Abbott's far from embarrassed
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 05:07 PM
Oct 2021

He can use his failing grade in Civics as a badge of honor that a majority of Texans will admire him for. May God help the voters of Texas put a Democrat in his place if I'm wrong.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
5. Is FL. Governor Floricovid gonna sue the Pentagon or withhold their...wait, he can't do shit.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:35 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:42 PM - Edit history (2)

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
6. Next step - defense contractors pack up and leave the state
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:42 PM
Oct 2021

Why should these employers put up with this shit? Is Abbott going to cover their liability if they get sued?

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
19. No, There's Too Much Billable Work In Texas
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:22 PM
Oct 2021

There's Ft. Hood, Ft. Sam, AFC in Austin, Ft. Bliss, several Air Force & Navy installations...all with work that needs to be done and billed.

LeftInTX

(25,231 posts)
30. The defense contractors will keep their mandates and Abbott won't sue them.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 05:53 PM
Oct 2021

Many of these contractors are incorporated in other states and only have satellite locations in Texas. For example: Boeing

Abbott can't tell Boeing what to do because they're based in another state.

If a defense contractor is incorporated in Texas, (such as a portion of Exxon/Mobil..who probably supply jet fuel to the military) Abbott won't bother to sue them because he knows he will probably lose.

Also he probably can't dictate corporate policies for many retailers and corporations based in another states. For instance if Delta Airlines requires vaccines for ticket agents who happen to be based in Texas, I don't think he can tell them what to do. If Target and/or Costco require employees to be vaccinated, I don't think Abbott can supercede their corporate policies because those policies come from another state.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
8. Like I said yesterday, these guys are using way too many keystrokes
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:47 PM
Oct 2021

just to say "Stick your 'order' where the sun don't shine, Fuzznuts."

James48

(4,435 posts)
16. It's fine.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:17 PM
Oct 2021

According to Merriam- Webster dictionary:

“ Supercede has occurred as a spelling variant of supersede since the 17th century, and it is common in current published writing. ”

Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supercede

PatSeg

(47,397 posts)
13. Seriously
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:23 PM
Oct 2021

These republican governors are acting like tin-pot dictators. They think they have more power than they do or at least they want their voters to believe that. It appears that there are not rules anymore.

Comfortably_Numb

(3,801 posts)
11. Sure seems like a lot of folks are telling Abbott to fuck off these days. School districts,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:10 PM
Oct 2021

municipalities, companies. Let me add my voice as a disgusted Texan. Fuck all the way off Gregg.

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
12. Oh I love it when the Texas governor gets set straight
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:21 PM
Oct 2021

I know a few other governors, including my own, who should read those words carefully.

Initech

(100,062 posts)
15. Greg Abbott is a liar and a bully and repeatedly needs to be told where to shove it!
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:11 PM
Oct 2021

This is a start!

applegrove

(118,608 posts)
17. Kenney, Premier of Alberta, who did the Abbot DeSantis trying to increase covid
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:19 PM
Oct 2021

cases dance has pissed off both sides of Alberta voters. Taxi driver I had thinks he'll be gone in a few months. He also probably helped Liberal Trudeau win the federal election. Voters as far away as Toronto suburbs were like **** that **** and shut out conservatives. So it is possible to beat these monsters. Just keep fighting. And sharing.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,113 posts)
24. Canada's political system is not as gerrymandered as ours is.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 03:53 PM
Oct 2021

I am certainly not saying to stop trying to remove all of those rethugs from every holding a public office again, but they do not have to fight nearly as hard as we do to just 'break even', much lass tally a victory.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
21. Let's see - Many more Texans vaxed because of Joe
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:46 AM
Oct 2021

Covid goes down, so naturally, Abbott claims credit for his efforts. Yep, that's how it's going to play out.

Johnny2X2X

(19,037 posts)
27. We just announced our mandate today
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 04:31 PM
Oct 2021

We have major government contracts. Get vaccinated or you’re fired, no severance.

People don’t realize is there are two orders in play. This one for government contractors that is more cut and dry, you have a mandate or you don’t get your government contracts, period. And the other one from OSHA that has the companies less than 100 employees exception as well as people opting for regular testing rather than getting vaccinated.

20% of adults have a problem with this, time fir us to stop worrying about the 20% and start protecting the 80%.

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