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ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
2. In my bar-running days...
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:55 AM
Oct 2021

I'd go to:
rock-n-roll bars
Blues bars
Jazz bars
Black bars
Mexican/Tejano bars
Gay bars
Businessman/Hotel bars
Neighborhood bars
Asian bars

and finally,

Redneck bars.

The ONLY time I would have trouble of any kind is at the redneck bars.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
4. Same here.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:31 AM
Oct 2021

I was knocked out from behind, further beaten and robbed after exiting a redneck/biker bar in my area. I don't even know who did it, given the blow to the back of my skull which luckily didn't kill me or cause major brain damage.

That was the last time that I visited ANY bar, but it was indeed the redneck bars that were always the most dangerous.

The women in those types of bars can be worse than the guys sometimes. I'll never forget a tiny blonde-haired girl, that I didn't even know, demanding that her boyfriend beat me up! WTF?! He acted as confused as me, but then acted like, "Well, I guess we have to fight now"... until I made it clear that I wasn't going to fight him just because his girlfriend is some psycho.

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
10. Ahh, biker bars...forgot them...never a problem for me.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 05:30 PM
Oct 2021

It was always those shit-kicker bars, line dancing and cowboy hats. It seems I always left with a banged up face and knuckles. Usually my knuckles only seemed to connect with somebody’s ankles…after I’m on the floor grabbing a foot. I’m not so sure a punched ankle hurts that much.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
12. The bikers are a subset of rednecks in my area.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:53 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:04 PM - Edit history (1)

The "rednecks" around here wouldn't be the same as the ones from truly rural areas around the country. In this area, they're the less-educated blue-collar types who speak with more of a Southern accent than most people around here, like they're maybe only one generation removed from living in the South.

A comedian from Indiana, Brent Terhune, sounds exactly like the "rednecks" in my area when he impersonates a Trump supporter.

Among those rednecks, the ones who are better-paid factory workers (unionized and such) and who can afford a very loud Harley motorcycle... they're the "bikers" in this area. They seem to like only two types of motorized vehicles. HUGE pick-up trucks or motorcycles... from one extreme to the other.

Edit:
Comedian Brent Terhune, sounding like pretty much every "biker" in my part of SW Ohio:



By the way, I had defended President Obama in the biker bar prior to me getting knocked out from behind as I was leaving it. Hit with a pipe, I think, but I don't really know. Didn't regain consciousness until later, in a hospital.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
17. Okay. Well, those are the "bikers" around here now.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:39 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:54 PM - Edit history (1)

I've lived in this area long enough to know that seeing anyone riding a Harley motorcycle around here was very rare. It's mostly a local phenomenon since maybe the early 90's.

Then it's like all kinds of men became insecure about their masculinity or something, and they started buying motorcycles and big pickup trucks (which they rarely use for any practical reasons).

Several of them have decent-paying factory jobs, but I think they're also insecure because they're stupid as shit and they'll probably be in financial trouble if they ever lose those particular jobs. It doesn't stop them from blowing their money on various "masculine" symbols, though.

Edit:
I looked up "RUBS", and this guy -- with a Confederate flag in the background, unfortunately -- dated the phenomenon back to 1994.



Then I looked up the phenomenon of gigantic pickup trucks, and that apparently started in the 90's too.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-11/the-dangerous-rise-of-the-supersized-pickup-truck
Since 1990, U.S. pickup trucks have added almost 1,300 pounds on average. Some of the biggest vehicles on the market now weigh almost 7,000 pounds — or about three Honda Civics. These vehicles have a voracious appetite for space, one that’s increasingly irreconcilable with the way cities (and garages, and parking lots) are built.

Maybe it coincides with the greater openness of gay people? All I know is that it seemed like a bunch of men were suddenly trying so hard to conspicuously show their "manliness" around that time period. Bunch of dumbasses.

walkingman

(7,591 posts)
8. Reminds me of the time in the early '70s that I went
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:44 AM
Oct 2021

to "Gilleys" a really big bar in Pasadena, Tx that was made kind of famous by the movie, Urban Cowboy. When you first walk in they had a mechanical bull that you rode and looking out into the bar there were lots of tables where the people had stacked up beer bottles into a pyramid - sometimes they would fall and break, etc.......really a wild place. Also not uncommon to see fights in the parking lot.

I told my date at the time - "Not my kind of place" (long hair) let's get out of here. The one and only time I ever have gone to a shitkicker bar.

When I did go to bars in my youth dating period, I preferred small more intimate places. I really liked "La Carafe" a small wine bar in Market Square area of downtown Houston.

Johnny2X2X

(19,023 posts)
5. I can attest to this
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:32 AM
Oct 2021

In my younger days, I had several gay friends and would go dancing with them. There were always attractive straight women at gay bars because it's the best place for them to dance and not be bothered by aggressive guys. And after dancing and mingling, if they figured out you were straight, well, it could go well for you. Met a girl this way that I dated for years.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
9. They are, actually lol...and not that I'm proud of this, but THE WORST fun drunk I have EVER been
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:25 PM
Oct 2021

Was drinking shots of I wont say what with one of the drag queens after the show.
Never again, but every bit worth doing that one time!

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
6. I think gay bars are way more fun.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:42 AM
Oct 2021

Women have gay men friends because you can trust them more and we have a lot in common.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
7. There's a terrific gay bar in Louisville called The Connection.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:44 AM
Oct 2021

It has a dance floor, a cabaret, and a piano bar. Great night spot.

I used to hang out there on the weekends when I was stationed at Fort Knox. Fun and pleasant place to socialize. Very friendly and low-key. Saw The Weather Girls perform there once.

I had the same experience as Daniel Craig: no hyperaggressive rednecks, no bar fights, etc.

Sometimes I would go with a young lady from our group who was a lesbian. We’d sit together so the gay guys would leave me alone and the straight guys would leave her alone.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
11. I've been places like that.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:27 PM
Oct 2021

Didn't end well, not at all. For our break-up I jumped out of her moving car and left a lot of my skin and blood on the streets of Berkeley.

She married the girl who broke us up, decades before that reality was recognized by law. I'm the guy who introduced them.

But there was a time when it was all very friendly and low-key.

We used to work out in the gym together and strangers would look at us obviously imaging all the fantastic sex we must be having.

We never had sex.

I met her parents but she never met mine. Her parents loved me. Maybe their daughter wasn't a Lesbian!

I'm certain my Hollywood sophisticated parents would have taken me aside and told me it wasn't ever going to work.

I had to learn the hard way.



JanMichael

(24,881 posts)
13. I totally get it. We do too. Nicer crowd in general.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:06 PM
Oct 2021

Went to a cool place in Asheville, Smokey's, but they were driven out by the $$$ last year....

MustLoveBeagles

(11,587 posts)
14. He's right. They're so much better.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:32 PM
Oct 2021

A female friend of mine who's in the SCA had a dance troop and needed extra money to cover the costs of travel. Since none of the men in our group were interested in doing middle eastern dance she played the male role. When the local gay bar started holding drag queen/king contests she decided to compete in the contests and occasionally won. Even if you didn't win you could earn decent money in tips from the audience. I went with other friends to give her support and encouragement. I had a blast and I'm not normally a bar person. There was once a drunken troublemaker that tried enter the bar and start trouble but he was quickly dealt with no violence.
One time we wound up eating breakfast at Denny's at 3am with several of the performers. Several years back the local prudes forced them and another gay bar out of town. I don't know if there are any in town currently.

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