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packman

(16,296 posts)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:33 AM Oct 2021

Well, screw Kellogg - No more corn flakes for me




Jesus, I thought we were past this uniion-busting shit. I'm going to boycott all Kellogg products.

Kellogg's, Keebler, Pop-Tarts, Eggo, Cheez-It, Club, Nutri-Grain, Rice Krispies, Special K, All-Bran, Mini-Wheats, Morningstar Farms, Famous Amos, Ready Crust and Kashi.
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Well, screw Kellogg - No more corn flakes for me (Original Post) packman Oct 2021 OP
Of course once negotiations are complete BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #1
More than likely. cstanleytech Oct 2021 #60
Haven't eaten Kellogg's for years... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #2
I didn't cross the picket line and actually BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #3
I'm A Sub ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #35
Subs finally got that here too, a couple years after BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #64
A HS Kid Got Accepted As A Sub? ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #66
It was based 100% on his appearance. BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #67
Yikes!! ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #72
Kelloggs will get zero money from my family and friends. Bluethroughu Oct 2021 #4
Kellogg's who? piddyprints Oct 2021 #5
Oh we are not worthy to be in the precence radicalleft Oct 2021 #9
Oh please. piddyprints Oct 2021 #28
It's part of this complete breakfast... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #34
LOL piddyprints Oct 2021 #36
"Frothing Flakes", the breakfast of the RW working class! RVN VET71 Oct 2021 #53
Are these Wacky Packages stickers? Prof. Toru Tanaka Oct 2021 #83
I don't know what they are. I found them online and... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #84
I call bullshit that you eat/buy nothing from a company Kellogg's owns. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2021 #15
Go ahead and call it. piddyprints Oct 2021 #27
You do realize that they own a number of subsidiaries not operated under the Kelloggs name? cstanleytech Oct 2021 #63
I think you have no evidence to attack DU member. Many people buy little/no processed food, like me Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2021 #29
It's actually quite easy to not eat/buy anything from Kellogg's. GoCubsGo Oct 2021 #38
The store-brand corn flakes aren't half bad. We like those. I wonder who makes them. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #42
All of the big cereal manufacturers make store brands. GoCubsGo Oct 2021 #47
I just read that list and I also do not buy any of Kellogg's products. efhmc Oct 2021 #51
I don't, and haven't for literally decades wackadoo wabbit Oct 2021 #71
The tentacles spread beyond the big K caraher Oct 2021 #22
Thanks for the list. piddyprints Oct 2021 #31
Offend? ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #40
Right. piddyprints Oct 2021 #45
It's not breakfast cereal. Jakes Progress Oct 2021 #59
But you see...your post is somewhat offensive radicalleft Oct 2021 #41
There is a lot of space piddyprints Oct 2021 #44
You win... radicalleft Oct 2021 #46
I only eat hand picked seeds and berries whilst barefooted and mostly naked under moonlight./s Jetheels Oct 2021 #82
Thank you for clarifying the issue, friend. crim son Oct 2021 #80
Only to people pretty determined to be offended. meadowlander Oct 2021 #85
Pringles. Mmmmm. progressoid Oct 2021 #62
Once upon a time, my high school classmate tried to form a union at Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #6
I've always liked CheezIts Prof. Toru Tanaka Oct 2021 #7
The Aldi versions are almost as good Amishman Oct 2021 #21
Like hell they are, off-brand Cheez-Its are very noticeably worse, even to a smoker. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2021 #86
"They could lead to permanent positions in the future ... " lpbk2713 Oct 2021 #8
Probably could, if they're willing to work cheap enough FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #54
Screw Tony the Scab Tiger, too Champp Oct 2021 #10
I'm glad to see so many workers standing up for their rights. badhair77 Oct 2021 #11
I can see why they'd strike onethatcares Oct 2021 #12
The Supply Chain VP Makes Over $3 Million ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #43
There's "generic" replacements for all that you mentioned... MiHale Oct 2021 #13
Do you think those off brands are union made? redstatebluegirl Oct 2021 #17
Thanks for this. I won't be eating any of their scab cereal. Tanuki Oct 2021 #14
What is the source for this? senseandsensibility Oct 2021 #16
News article from 7 hrs. ago in regard to ad packman Oct 2021 #18
I found the ad directly caraher Oct 2021 #23
Thanks. OMG, the jaunty copy-writing in the senseandsensibility Oct 2021 #25
Whoever wrote that needs two scoops of reality and FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #58
Screw them...and all the other companies that seem to think that Bettie Oct 2021 #19
Well, Morning Star Farms veggie foods were a regular item here irisblue Oct 2021 #20
No more breakfast strips!? BlueKentuckyGirl Oct 2021 #33
No more breakfast strips!? BlueKentuckyGirl Oct 2021 #65
Kellogg's also owns SouthernDem4ever Oct 2021 #24
Well that's it for me! Byb bye Kelloggs and shame on you Cozmo Oct 2021 #26
Agreed. One or both of those posters invited themselves yonder Oct 2021 #37
Oh yeah because scabs always get treated with respect and dignity! Initech Oct 2021 #30
Add Loma Linda and Worthingtons brand in there as well ColinC Oct 2021 #32
Temporary picket line busters? Watch out for foreign objects in your cereals. Doodley Oct 2021 #39
Why would they do that? Is this a thing? NurseJackie Oct 2021 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #49
From above FreeState Oct 2021 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #76
I'll be surprised if Kellogg's can replace MontanaMama Oct 2021 #50
Why no link? Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #56
You mean the "les for more" package folks are trying to screw the unions after screwing us joetheman Oct 2021 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #61
Kellogg's pre-hiring scabs. sarcasmo Oct 2021 #68
Morningstar farms mahina Oct 2021 #69
Cheez-Its are a no go. Patton French Oct 2021 #70
We don't want to eat foods produced by inexperienced temporary workers.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2021 #73
They want to lower starting pay to $23 per hour, then raise to $35 in three years. Mosby Oct 2021 #75
Oh darn, scab workers making Monsanto Roundup chemicorn traitorsgalore Oct 2021 #77
K&R but, as usual with my own boycotts, i don't use any of those for starters UTUSN Oct 2021 #78
Eat oatmeal Historic NY Oct 2021 #79
Someone is planning a drive rally tiredtoo Oct 2021 #81

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
3. I didn't cross the picket line and actually
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:39 AM
Oct 2021

marched in it when the school district I had subbed in for 2 years, hoping for a teaching job, went on strike. When there finally were new positions available the teachers requested me at their school site since I supported them during the strike and they appreciated it.

Hollywood workers are probably going to strike now too.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
35. I'm A Sub
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:09 PM
Oct 2021

Not only wouldn't I cross the line, but in Illinois, subs become part of the union (IMRF) automatically.
So, I wouldn't, but I actually couldn't cross the line.
The school district would be in violation of labor laws if they brought in registered subs.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
64. Subs finally got that here too, a couple years after
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 04:48 PM
Oct 2021

I got a contract. Also, teachers' subbing days are now added to the regular time contracted teachers get towards retirement.

When we went on strike a high school student put on a suit and got a briefcase and actually got accepted as a sub and was given a classroom. When news got out about this the strike ended soon afterwards. Most of the students were shoved into the lunchroom to do worksheets and coloring books for an entire week. Striking teachers got a lot of parent support.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
66. A HS Kid Got Accepted As A Sub?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 04:59 PM
Oct 2021

Need a degree here, unless one had an associates and was already a licensed sub. (Grandfathered those folks in.)
Even now, AA holders are limited as to how many days they can work in the same district in a term. (30 days, never more than 15 in a row.)
I'm "limited" to 90 days per term, but that's 180 school days a year in one district. I would be 93% of the way toward full time. I also have no limit on the length of a given assignment, but I wouldn't take a 6 or 8 week gig, anyway.
So, strike or no strike, around here no district could legally accept a high school kid as a sub.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
67. It was based 100% on his appearance.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 05:03 PM
Oct 2021

The district was such a mess and so desperate for subs that they didn't check anyone's identity.

Bluethroughu

(5,149 posts)
4. Kelloggs will get zero money from my family and friends.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:42 AM
Oct 2021

I will buy nothing until they contract fairly with their workers.

If that means never again, it will be never again.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
53. "Frothing Flakes", the breakfast of the RW working class!
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:50 PM
Oct 2021

Heaping bowls full are consumed before every school board meeting and pro-life rally.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,950 posts)
83. Are these Wacky Packages stickers?
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 04:40 PM
Oct 2021


They were big when I was in middle school...I had a bunch of them on my loose leaf binder.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
84. I don't know what they are. I found them online and...
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 04:42 PM
Oct 2021

... thought they were hysterical. I'd never seen them before.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
29. I think you have no evidence to attack DU member. Many people buy little/no processed food, like me
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:55 PM
Oct 2021

It's a fundamental way of getting the best nutrition: don't buy food that has the nutrition beaten out of it and then partially replaced.

You want to attack my integrity too?

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
38. It's actually quite easy to not eat/buy anything from Kellogg's.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:10 PM
Oct 2021

They mostly sell processed breakfast foods, like cold cereals, Pop Tarts, and frozen waffles, along with a couple of brands of cookies, crackers and fake meats. For various reasons, a lot of folks don't eat cold cereal for breakfast, myself included. Most of that stuff spikes my blood sugar, and leaves me hungry again 20 minutes after eating it. As far as meat substitutes go, there are more and more better options than Morningstar Farms soy products coming onto the market every day.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
47. All of the big cereal manufacturers make store brands.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:35 PM
Oct 2021

Post and General Mills make a lot of the cereal sold at Aldi. Kellogg's produces Publix's bran flakes. Some of it's made under private labels, too.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,166 posts)
71. I don't, and haven't for literally decades
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 05:18 PM
Oct 2021

I rarely buy processed foods, and the few I do buy are either Trader Joe's or, occasionally, Kirkland/Costco brand.

When you account for its effects, the SAD (Standard American Diet) probably kills more people each year than all other causes combined. I want no part of it.

I'd love to be able to boycott Kellogg's, but you can't boycott a company that you already do no business with.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
22. The tentacles spread beyond the big K
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:42 PM
Oct 2021

Kellogg helpfully lists the many brands they own.

The company’s brands include Kellogg’s, Keebler, Pop-Tarts, Eggo, Cheez-It, Club, Nutri-Grain, Rice Krispies, Special K, All-Bran, Mini-Wheats, Morningstar Farms, Famous Amos, Ready Crust and Kashi.

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
31. Thanks for the list.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:57 PM
Oct 2021

Nope, don't use any of them.

There are people on this planet who don't eat processed foods. I just thought maybe there were more of us. Didn't mean to offend so many.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
40. Offend?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:11 PM
Oct 2021

I don't see offense.
But, the sanctimony is dripping from your posts.
It's not the content, it's the tone.

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
45. Right.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:21 PM
Oct 2021

You read into it what you want to. I'm shocked that breakfast cereal is such a hot button for some on this board.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
59. It's not breakfast cereal.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

It's a condescending sense for superiority.

Do you eat meat? I know some vegetarians that are absolutely sure the they are better than you. And I know some vegans that know they are better than the people who are better than you.

Lighten up on the self-back slapping. You will dislodge a shoulder joint.

radicalleft

(478 posts)
41. But you see...your post is somewhat offensive
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:12 PM
Oct 2021

And even the phrase "I just thought maybe there were more of us" somehow imparts the reader with the belief that because we don't eat hand picked seeds and berries from the forest, we are somehow beneath you...

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
44. There is a lot of space
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:20 PM
Oct 2021

"hand picked seeds and berries" and processed breakfast cereals. Get a fucking grip.

The pile-on was fun. I hope you enjoyed it.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
80. Thank you for clarifying the issue, friend.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:45 AM
Oct 2021

"....hand picked seeds and berries...." Hey, if you feel bad about your diet, change it, don't attack people who already have.

I don't eat anything on that list either because the stuff tastes like crap, FYI.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
85. Only to people pretty determined to be offended.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 05:31 PM
Oct 2021

So some people don't eat Kelloggs products. I don't. It's not really a commentary on anyone else or what they choose to do with their lives. I stopped eating processed foods back in the 90s when I was on the Atkins diet. When I quit the diet, I'd more or less broken the habit and never got back into it. Also when I was broke after the Global Financial Crisis I got in the habit of cooking most of my food from scratch because I couldn't afford processed foods.

I don't think that makes me a "better person who only subsists on hand picked fruits and berries". It makes me a moderately health and budget conscious food consumer. "Processed foods aren't great for your health" isn't really that radical of a position at the end of the day.

You're doing a lot of heavy lifting with a handful of ambiguous phrases there.

Since we're all on the same side here, why don't you take a deep breath and think about why you feel the need to be so defensive on this topic. Is attacking other DUers because they comment that they don't eat that much processed food really the best possible use of your time and energy?

Tetrachloride

(7,829 posts)
6. Once upon a time, my high school classmate tried to form a union at
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:49 AM
Oct 2021

his small factory. He said he was amazed at the support the union gave.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,950 posts)
7. I've always liked CheezIts
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:50 AM
Oct 2021

but I can live without them, also.

Thank you for posting this article. As a union worker, I try to boycott products when I hear about stories like this.

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
21. The Aldi versions are almost as good
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:41 PM
Oct 2021

and I am fairly sure Kellogg doesn't secretly make them (flavor and nutritional info is slightly different)

not to mention cheaper

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
86. Like hell they are, off-brand Cheez-Its are very noticeably worse, even to a smoker.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 06:46 PM
Oct 2021

In solidarity with the strikers, I'm not buying any more Cheez-It (my snack of choice), but off-brand is no substitute for the real thing when Cheez-It is involved.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
8. "They could lead to permanent positions in the future ... "
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:55 AM
Oct 2021


Just like the sun could rise in the west tomorrow.

badhair77

(4,214 posts)
11. I'm glad to see so many workers standing up for their rights.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:11 PM
Oct 2021

As a former and now retired union member I gladly support them. I hope the younger workers don’t give away everything we fought for.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
12. I can see why they'd strike
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:13 PM
Oct 2021

here's a list of 5 top executives and their compensation package figure

Pay Rank By Title In MFG Nondurable industry

Gary Pilnick

Vice Chairman, Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer

$4,004,116



Alistair Hirst

Senior Vice President, Global Supply Chain

$3,059,590



Chris Hood

Senior Vice President, President, Kellogg North America

$5,104,919




Steve Cahillane

Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

$11,663,852




Amit Banati

Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

$4,381,061

It appears there is a total of 1400 employees going on strike for better wages, re instatement of premium healthcare, vacation time upgrades and other items.

Do you think the execs could trim a few bucks off their compensation to provide for the folks that do the lifting?

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
43. The Supply Chain VP Makes Over $3 Million
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:18 PM
Oct 2021

In a $13.7 billion company.
The supply chain network & relationships have been in place for 80+ years.
There's no way the logistics & planning executive is that valuable.
And, the CEO make 3.8x that.
I retired for a company about 1/3rd the size of Kellogg.
The CEO had a total compensation package (listed in the annual report) of about 1/9th of Cahillane. Suggests to me he is overvalued by a factor of 3. Just that $8,000,000 could be spread to those 1,400 strikers at $5,700 per year, each.
CEO compensation is grossly inflated in the western economies.

MiHale

(9,715 posts)
13. There's "generic" replacements for all that you mentioned...
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:13 PM
Oct 2021

Chain grocery stores are getting quite good at copycat food items. Truthfully I like some of the off brands better than the original. No real need to buy from the “big boys” anymore.

senseandsensibility

(16,989 posts)
16. What is the source for this?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:19 PM
Oct 2021

Not doubting you at all, just curious. And yeah, Kellogg's is going to help me lose weight now. No more Cheez-It.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
18. News article from 7 hrs. ago in regard to ad
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:25 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.newsweek.com/kellogg-job-ad-strike-picket-line-1639247

By the way - a 10 sec. search would have given you the source

The link is heavy with a Kellogg spokeperson explaining away the company's position

caraher

(6,278 posts)
23. I found the ad directly
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:45 PM
Oct 2021

Here's the job posting: https://jobs.kellogg.com/job/Battle-Creek-Production-Associate-MI-49014/800706100/?fbclid=IwAR2-wDbOEHDKwrJuDt5v7muuKLRVWTVi98-4z8jpqk5Tft5YL80DSKx0QnA


Date: Oct 11, 2021
Job Req ID: 4649
Category: SupplyChain/ Operations
Country/Region: US
State: MI
City: Battle Creek
Title: Production Associate
Description:

Kellogg’s is Now Pre-Hiring for Strike Replacement Workers



Our ready-to-eat (RTEC) cereal production facilities in Battle Creek, MI, Lancaster, PA, Memphis, TN and Omaha, NE are pre-hiring for Hourly Production Employees. The Unions representing Kellogg’s employees in these plants are on strike, and we are looking for employees to cross the picket the line and join hundreds of Kellogg salaried employees, hourly employees, and contractors to keep the lines running during the strike. While these are temporary positions at this time, they could lead to permanent opportunities in the future.



With your can-do, go-getter, team-player work ethic, we are positive you will fit right in. To be successful in this role, you could certainly use two scoops of communication skills and a bowl full of detail while preparing some of the world's most favorite products for shipment. You will also collaborate with many diverse people and perspectives, and be a part of the united values and winning culture. At Kellogg’s, we eat what we like and we do what we love.


Bettie

(16,088 posts)
19. Screw them...and all the other companies that seem to think that
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:25 PM
Oct 2021

now is the time to squeeze workers.

Maybe we will see unions grow again, since labor is in shorter supply than it has been in years and the pandemic has made people consider the quality of their lives.

I think that people are also starting to notice that those "job creators" a. don't really "create" jobs and that they are screwing all of us.

BlueKentuckyGirl

(402 posts)
33. No more breakfast strips!?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:07 PM
Oct 2021

Same here. The only Kellogg's product on that list that I eat is Morningstar Farms. Dang! Good thing I have a full box of the "fake bacon" strips in my freezer. Looks like I won't be buying them for awhile.

BlueKentuckyGirl

(402 posts)
65. No more breakfast strips!?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 04:53 PM
Oct 2021

Same here. The only Kellogg's product on that list that I eat is Morningstar Farms. Dang! Good thing I have a full box of the "fake bacon" strips in my freezer. Looks like I won't be buying them for awhile.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
26. Well that's it for me! Byb bye Kelloggs and shame on you
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:53 PM
Oct 2021

Too bad some DUers can't resist the urge to piss on another poster's sentiment. You know who you are. this is so tedious. Kind of makes you want to drop out. Nothing pretty about ugliness. There is always a kinder way to portray an opposing comment, ya know?

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MontanaMama

(23,302 posts)
50. I'll be surprised if Kellogg's can replace
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:40 PM
Oct 2021

their work force in this labor climate. I own two small businesses and it is really tough hiring at the moment.

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joetheman

(1,450 posts)
55. You mean the "les for more" package folks are trying to screw the unions after screwing us
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:52 PM
Oct 2021

with dishonest packaging for the past 20 or so years? You know those boxes that look the same and are the same size or near the same size with far less product and big price increases?? Stopped buying them years ago. so glad my kids are all grown.

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mahina

(17,640 posts)
69. Morningstar farms
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 05:10 PM
Oct 2021

I thought I couldn’t boycott them because I didn’t use anything to make but it turns out that I do. And I will let them know why I will not buy it anymore

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
73. We don't want to eat foods produced by inexperienced temporary workers....
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:54 PM
Oct 2021

and particularly workers who have crossed picket lines.

I'll be giving my son who picks up our groceries a list of brands to avoid. Even at 35YO, he still loves his Pop Tarts and Pringles but will sacrifice for this cause. Unfortunately, I don't have a way to know who produces my Kroger store brand cereals.

It's unfortunate that most Americans either will not care or not even be aware of this strike.

KY.......

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
81. Someone is planning a drive rally
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:52 AM
Oct 2021

to Battle Creek next week in support of the strikers. From Saginaw, Michigan. Don't have all the details yet or contact person yet but will look and provide to anyone via PM.

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