Who agrees with me on SineManchin stick/carrot time is up.

[Funtatlaguy]

It’s time.
In fact, it’s past time.
Biden needs to go to them and say tell me what you need for two things to happen:
1. To get your buy in on both infrastructure bills.
2. To get your buy in on a carve out for voting rights.

If they don’t respond with that carrot 🥕 request, then you use the stick.
I don’t know what that stick would be.
But, I’m sure they have skeletons and weaknesses.
Time for hardball.
Our democracy is at stake.
We must pull out all of the stops.
Use any and all ammunition that you can find.

[bottomofthehill]

1. Great plan, although

She changes party and there is no bill no nothing, so maybe not such a good plan. Even if she goes from D to I we loose the majority, the chairmanships and the leadership.

[bottomofthehill]

2. This no judges, no sun cabinet appointments, not much left

[FBaggins]

3. The problem with the carrot/stick analogy

They hold the stick.

[stillcool]

4. turn out the lights, and go home

leave Mitch with the gavel, and walk away.

[mucifer]

5. I don't think the stick will work with sinema because

she knows she probably won't get reelected as a dem or elected as a republican.

So she can take the money from the corporations and if we push her too hard she can switch parties before the election and we would lose the ability to get anything passed.

[wellst0nev0ter]

13. It's so amazing that's she's not even motivated by self-preservation

She must really like her future of being a lobbyist.

[qazplm135]

6. You have to seperate Manchin and Sinema

Manchin is at least talking. He's for some tax increases on corporations and the wealthy. He's for prescription drug costs being lowered. He is for at least one out of the big three main policies (in his words, pick one). Do I think that's great, no. But it's light years ahead of Sinema who:

1. Won't raise any taxes.
2. Won't agree to prescription drug cost reform

In fact, the only thing she appears to be down for is some climate change stuff, but she knows full well Manchin isn't on board with that so one wonders if it's a ruse.

Sinema is the real problem, if it were just Manchin, we'd have a deal by now, not a great deal, but a deal.

[Patton French]

7. The stick may chase thrum into GQP.

Not a good result either.

[PoliticAverse]

8. "I don't know what that stick would be." - that's kind of important in a carrot/stick plan.

[Silent3]

9. Even though we mere DUers might not know which sticks might be available...

...I think it's a fairly safe bet, if Biden and Senate Democrats are willing to play rough, those sticks exists and they know what they are and how to use them.

[Funtatlaguy]

10. Voting Rights is the WHOLE ballgame. Democracy at stake.

[brooklynite]

11. You'll let him know?

Never understood why debating what Biden SHOULD do accomplishes anything.

[onenote]

12. "I don't know what the stick is."

Sums this up doesn't it.

[Celerity]

14. they hold all the cards 😒