Stormed the capital...

[Omaha Steve]

[BlueJac]

1. That's what I'm talking about!

Why be nice, they will be back,

[Bluethroughu]

2. Exactly!

Lock them up!
Lock up anyone who helped coordinate or finance this insurrection.
Lock up the instigators telling them to SAVE AMERICA.

LOCK THEM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY!

[irisblue]

3. The Puerto Rican's were much more brown then the January traitors are. Jus' sayin'

[MyOwnPeace]

6. And not only that.....

I don't see any campaign signs or flags, stolen government property (computers and lecterns), busted glass, and injured policemen.
Seems the 'sentencing scale' should go UP for this last "tourist event......."

[Shrike47]

15. They were armed; they shot 5 Congressmen.

[MyOwnPeace]

17. I did read that on a later posting......

Pretty scary there - you'd think Congress would have learned from that.

‘Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.’

......George Santayana

[gojoe12]

20. No gun

shots were ever fired except for the one

[Celerity]

25. They shot 30 rounds from semi-automatic pistols from the Ladies' Gallery. Five Representatives were

wounded, one seriously, but all recovered.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_shooting

[gojoe12]

26. I was talking

about Jan 6

[Celerity]

27. that was not self-evident from the flow of the sub thread

[hadEnuf]

30. Yes, luckily they didn't make it to their weapon stashes.

But there obviously was a plan. And punishment for a coup isn't measured by how many guns get fired.

[llashram]

38. exactly

forgotten in many responses, conveniently Just asking...and nooses and threats? The American terrorists were fighting for racist and white nationalist-supremacist ideology. I would like to find the racial breakdown of the severity of wounds, suffered at the hands of the rabid whites at 1/6 Insurrection-coup attempt, by Capitol police. I bet African-American police were especially targeted. In fact, I bet.

[drmeow]

21. THIS!!!!!

My thoughts exactly!

[llashram]

37. ++

[Hortensis]

4. Somewhere between community service and 50 years perhaps?

There's a huge difference between Puerto Rican terrorists who opened fire on representatives in the house chamber while they debated an immigration bill and the trumpist fools who imagined they were patriots demonstrating for democracy while they took selfies in the rotunda.

Now, the 1/6 paramilitary types come with zip ties for the captives they intended to take, yes. There's a parallel there. But the PRans shot semiautomatic pistols down into a crowd of members at work, failing to kill and only injuring some by sheer bad luck. Another group's attempt to assassinate President Truman also failed, but their fellow violent PRan nationalists (roughly 140 of them!), had more "successes" back in PR in that their insurrection managed to kill two to three dozen PRans before being put down.

[Hav]

5. Thank you for providing some context

Equating those two events seems to be a form of misinformation as well. Context is important when more and more people appear to get their news and information through memes, tweets and headlines.

[Hortensis]

7. Yes. Too often encouraging a mob mentality.

You made me think of more context in that the true 1/6 insurrectionists represent real danger to our democracy. I hope investigations provide proof of conspiracy and violent actions that allows us to put them away for some years while we stabilize.

[KS Toronado]

9. Thank you for the education, never heard about this........

Kind of a apples & oranges comparison meme that shouldn't be spread around.

[Farmer-Rick]

10. I don't know. I see your point

Seems the Puerto Ricans were better organized because there were fewer of them...and they didn't have an idiot like Trump organizing it.

What would the successful outcome of the insurrection of Trump worshipers have looked like? Would Pence had been hung or murdered another way? Would they have caught up with the fleeing Congress critters? Would they have killed a few of them?

Or would they have just put down all their weapons and have just left with no further violence?

Yeah, they really didn't succeed in carrying out their full plans but do we cut them a break because of it?

To tell you honestly, I don't know. There is a difference between the 2. But just because they were incompetent do they deserve less severe penalties?

[FoxNewsSucks]

12. There were fewer of them

because tRump's MAGAts took advantage of a huge mob of morons that provided cover for the actual dangerous ones.

Sentencing should be much harsher for them. A couple years for the mob of morons, with life sentences if any of those are caught doing it again.

[Farmer-Rick]

13. OK, I see that.

Interesting.

[Hortensis]

14. This. Prosecutors are treating morons and serious violent extremists differently.

Most of the thousands of those who answered the trumpist call to go to the Capitol only realized when they arrived just what they were part of and got the hell out of Dodge. They moved well away or left altogether. Some continued loyally and bravely on, their version at least. Imagine confessing to DoJ prosecutors that you were hoping to get proof of being there to show your friends, selfies or the souvenir you were caught with.

[llashram]

23. well like someone said

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the 1955 'Stormers' were armed and did kill. Yet the wounding of 121 Capitol Police, 121 at one count and the 6 killed by American terrorists on 1/6 don't even come close to their treason on 1/6 compared to those Puerto Rican's seeking independence committed...

[Hortensis]

24. Your "sarcasm" is noted, but I think misdirected. I didn't say or

mean what you imagine. Intent and individual actions are usually factors in deciding which charges to bring and in sentencing.

I will say that I'm very glad that "social media juries" can't be seated in any of these courtrooms and just hope the 1/6 mob is the only one that marches to seek justice for itself.

[SCantiGOP]

8. This thread has ignored one crucial point

The four who got into the House gallery with handguns fired into the crowd below and wounded 5 Congressmen.
Had any of the Jan6 protestors fired at and wounded a member of Congress, they would be facing that kind of sentence.
This is in no way diminishing the actions of the insurrectionists, merely pointing out some salient context.

[berni_mccoy]

11. Capitol Police being murdered is equivalent

[Bob_in_VA]

19. I disagree

Successfully committing a crime and failing to successfully commit the same crime come with similar punishments. The failed bank robber's sentence will probably be less - but not that much less - than if he succeeded.

If I remember correctly, sedition, which is the crime here (even if the prosecutors seem reluctant to charge that) has the same punishment whether or not the seditious act(s) were successful or not.

[cadoman]

28. once the video and phone record evidence is released we'll see the full story...

...of just how violent the Jan 6th insurrectionists were and the sedition they committed. We will also learn that Trump and his administration were directing the whole thing, once the phone records are released.

They will ALL go to prison. It was organized from the top down from the get go but thankfully the Capitol police and FBI stopped it.

[uponit7771]

32. There were multiple people killed in the process of committing felony IINM couldn't the people

... who are being heavily charged be charged with their death?

They're going light on the J6rs because they're white, they'd find something to throw at people if J6rs skin was darker.

[llashram]

39. so very, very true

and many more, if of darker skin, would have been slaughtered by the National Guard or whoever. The prior so-called potus WOULD have called many troops, police, in to restore order. I don't forget important points of the top-level complicity in wanting this coup attempt to succeed.

[Mike Niendorff]

33. Agreed.

These are not equivalent situations -- although they certainly could have been if not for the actions of the Capitol Police.


MDN

[grantcart]

34. +1

[NoMoreRepugs]

16. We might never know how many of the Deplorable Insurrectionists were armed on 1/06.

Agree not apples to apples but so many unknowns including how do u gauge the mindset and motivations of MORONS??

[Joinfortmill]

18. 👍 shared

[70sEraVet]

22. One other difference - the cause that the Puerto Ricans were fighting for is a just one.

I certainly don't condone the attempted murder.
But I do think that its unjust for the US to keep Puerto Rico, but deny its people full citizenship rights.
Either give them statehood or let them run their own country.

[samplegirl]

29. To late for that

most of them are getting a slap on the wrist.

[evolves]

31. But,

they weren't "white" enough. If you are brown, Black, or anything other than white, you are getting locked up.

[Hav]

36. If you are white and shoot a member of Congress,

I'm pretty confident you'll get locked up as well.

[marble falls]

35. And served big pieces of their sentences, too.

[flashman13]

40. Obviously not the same

Those protesters were brown and probably had unAmerican accents.

[BumRushDaShow]

41. Did you miss the sarcasm thingy

What is an "unAmerican" accent?