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New Covid variant is detected in the UK & US (Original Post) Cattledog Oct 2021 OP
Awesome angrychair Oct 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #2
Here's what I found Nittersing Oct 2021 #3
Delta Plus Variant, AY.4.2 Celerity Oct 2021 #4
Society will come unglued if something worse than delta takes hold and spikes again. OrlandoDem2 Oct 2021 #5
I figure COVID is with us for years if not decades to come madville Oct 2021 #6
Delta plus has been around for a while now. I first read about it early/mid summer. Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #7
2.67 billion. roamer65 Oct 2021 #8
6 cases in the USA, acc to Newsweek ananda Oct 2021 #9

Response to Cattledog (Original post)

Nittersing

(6,353 posts)
3. Here's what I found
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:43 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/dr-gottlieb-warns-new-super-variant-behind-latest-covid-comeback-uk

UK reported its biggest one-day Covid case increase in 3 months just as the new delta variant AY.4 with the S:Y145H mutation in the spike reaches 8% of UK sequenced cases. We need urgent research to figure out if this delta plus is more transmissible, has partial immune evasion?

The variant has been in the UK since about July, but it has been slowly increasing in prevalence. There’s no clear indication that it’s considerably more transmissible, but we should work to more quickly characterize these and other new variants. We have the tools.

This is not a cause for immediate concern but a reminder that we need robust systems to identify, characterize new variants. This needs to be a coordinated, global priority for Covid same as similar international efforts have become standard practice in influenza.

Celerity

(43,255 posts)
4. Delta Plus Variant, AY.4.2
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:46 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/what-is-ay4-2-variant

When public health officials talk about COVID-19 variants, people pay attention. And that's exactly what happened after former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, MD, tweeted about a new Delta subtype over the weekend.

"UK reported its biggest one-day Covid case increase in 3 months just as the new delta variant AY.4 with the S:Y145H mutation in the spike reaches 8% of UK sequenced cases," Dr. Gottlieb wrote. "We need urgent research to figure out if this delta plus is more transmissible, has partial immune evasion?"


OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
5. Society will come unglued if something worse than delta takes hold and spikes again.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:01 PM
Oct 2021

People will lose their damn minds, as if they haven’t already but you know what I mean.

madville

(7,408 posts)
6. I figure COVID is with us for years if not decades to come
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:46 PM
Oct 2021

It's more likely we just adapt to it as the new normal. Get vaccinated and live life the best you can. As long as we keep the economy moving it won't be that bad, luckily I don't think anyone has an appetite for anymore serious shutdowns.

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
7. Delta plus has been around for a while now. I first read about it early/mid summer.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:07 PM
Oct 2021

Unless it is significantly more transmissible and/or causes a good deal greater amount of morbidity/mortality it will be of little interest to people other than total nerds like me.

Remember when a writer breathlessly announced that the mu variant posed "a significant threat to human society?"

We should absolutely keep our eyes open. That's the very purpose of surveillance. That being said, every new variant is not cause for panic - in fact - at this point we should probably hope for variants. It's our best chance for this to become a less lethal endemic disease, and there doesn't seem to be a reason to think it will not be endemic. I'd vastly prefer a less killing variety.

A variant that is even easier to spread than Delta but far easier to deal with (kinda like type-b influenza) would be a good thing because the transmissibility would mean it would crowd out the far deadlier Delta. I'm good with that.


roamer65

(36,745 posts)
8. 2.67 billion.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:41 PM
Oct 2021

If we reach the roundabout 33 percent infection rate of the 1918-1920 flu virus…that’s how far we have to go yet.

The population was 1.5 billion in 1918 and they figure around 500 million caught the virus.

Will we get to 2.67 billion? I doubt it, but I think 1 - 1.5 billion is very possible.

ananda

(28,856 posts)
9. 6 cases in the USA, acc to Newsweek
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:48 PM
Oct 2021

However, there have only been six U.S. cases reported and it does not appear to have been spreading recently in the states.

Delta has branched off into dozens of different types that are referred to with the 'AY' label.

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