Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

mia

(8,360 posts)
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:32 PM Oct 2021

The tragedy of Colin Powell's life

Colin Powell Had the Chance to Be a Great Man in a Crucial Moment. He Chose to Be a Loyal Apparatchik.

That is the tragedy of his life.

...One October night in 1973, an attorney general named Eliot Richardson was ordered by Richard Nixon to fire a special prosecutor. This was Richardson’s chance to be a great man, and to influence history for the better, and he took it. He resigned and he told the country why. In February 2003, Colin Powell faced the same choice. I always will believe that he could have stopped the whole catastrophe, or at least tossed a ton of sand in the gears, with one press conference after he’d resigned as Secretary of State. That's if he’d used that sterling public reputation on which Cheney had counted so heavily to tell the country that there were people who wanted a war and who did not care how they got it.

They got their war. Colin Powell helped when he didn’t have to do so, when he knew he didn’t have to do so. Hundreds of thousands of people died. The moment needed an Eliot Richardson. It got Colin Powell, may he rest in peace, a guy who was a good soldier once too often.


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a37991036/colin-powell-obituary-george-w-bush-iraq-war/?fbclid=IwAR0aVW6vnxKvaeRi8YYTfzB8OVDD4t5giUtohjlB72xc5Z-7Yn4lEjYNfpI
18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The tragedy of Colin Powell's life (Original Post) mia Oct 2021 OP
his tragedy? Skittles Oct 2021 #1
me too gopiscrap Oct 2021 #9
Profile in courage zipplewrath Oct 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #3
He knew. zentrum Oct 2021 #4
that's what struck me the most about that "test tube display" Skittles Oct 2021 #11
He could have stopped the momentum toward war. NH Ethylene Oct 2021 #5
Well said. mia Oct 2021 #6
Cheney could not have done it alone Skittles Oct 2021 #12
And all those in Congress who voted and the puppet Bush. NH Ethylene Oct 2021 #14
he pimped for the war (remember the vial?) with THESE warmongering pieces of shit Skittles Oct 2021 #15
"Cheney could not have done it alone" Hav Oct 2021 #17
I'm not angry at him for failing to prevent the war Withywindle Oct 2021 #18
Good read malaise Oct 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2021 #8
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2021 #10
KNR niyad Oct 2021 #13
Once again, Charles Pierce leaves me with much to think about Hekate Oct 2021 #16

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Profile in courage
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:38 PM
Oct 2021

Being a good soldier is about serving others. Powell never understood that at some point, leadership is about being true to the truth, regardless of the consequences. He was a good soldier too long, and never understood the burden of leadership.

Response to mia (Original post)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
4. He knew.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:50 PM
Oct 2021

Intel told them there was no yellow cake.

Remember Valeri Plame?

Powell killed millions with his cowardice.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
11. that's what struck me the most about that "test tube display"
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:11 PM
Oct 2021

I could tell he did not even believe what he was saying. Disgusting.

NH Ethylene

(30,803 posts)
5. He could have stopped the momentum toward war.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:14 PM
Oct 2021

Whether that would have prevented the war or not is anyone's guess.

I was bitterly disappointed with him at the time. I hold no longstanding grudge against him though. He was weak at a time when great strength was needed. And he was just one of the many 'players' who contributed to the forward march to war. This includes the majority who voted to allow the invasion. They are all equally culpable to each other.

I am not a vengeful person. We all make mistakes in our lives, some of them big ones. There is only one man I will never forgive foir this atrocity. He is the one who constructed the false WMD evidence and knew it was wrong to invade Iraq. He did it for power and money. He knew many people would die and he just didn't care. And of course, that is Darth Vader himself, Dick Cheney. Everyone else played a supporting role.

I am saving my wrath for HIS epitat.

NH Ethylene

(30,803 posts)
14. And all those in Congress who voted and the puppet Bush.
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 12:50 AM
Oct 2021

There is plenty of blame to go around. If you like simmering in rage each time one of them dies, then enjoy. I save my contempt for the truly evil among us.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
15. he pimped for the war (remember the vial?) with THESE warmongering pieces of shit
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 01:01 AM
Oct 2021

Colin went ABOVE AND BEYOND, pimping for a senseless war, like he had learned NOTHING from Vietnam




Hav

(5,969 posts)
17. "Cheney could not have done it alone"
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:02 AM
Oct 2021

That is true but for some strange reason people are less charitable in their assessment of Powell's role and influence. Reading some posts here, one could almost believe that Powell could have single-handedly prevented the Iraq war. It's all on him.

He knowingly lied and lacked the courage to do what was right when he neither believed the fake intel nor in the need for military intervention. But I also think this focus on blaming Powell is minimizing the roles of the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
18. I'm not angry at him for failing to prevent the war
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:43 AM
Oct 2021

I'm angry at him for not even trying. At the very least, resigning to not attach his name to the shameful legacy, and having it stated on the record that he was opposed.

If he had done that, the conversation around his death here would be very different.

When Cheney dies, we're all going to metaphorically guzzle a keg of beer so our tanks are fully loaded for the grave-pissing party. I haven't seen anyone here saying Cheney wasn't the worst of the worst.

I think Powell could have chosen to be better, and he just didn't.

Response to mia (Original post)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The tragedy of Colin Powe...