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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPassengers who did not intervene in sexual assault on train could face charges: report
Passengers who recorded an alleged incident of sexual assault on a train near Philadelphia but did not intervene or call authorities could face charges, though local prosecutors cast doubt on the idea Tuesday.
"It would be up to the Delaware County district attorney's office to make such a decision after the police finish their investigation and submit their findings," Upper Darby Township Police Department Superintendent Timothy Bernhardt said in a press conference, The New York Times reported.
Bernhardt said that the bystander footage he reviewed showed that the passengers had an opportunity to intervene for 40 minutes while the victim was allegedly assaulted by the suspect, 35-year-old Fiston Ngoy.
The surveillance video also showed the victim allegedly pushing Ngoy away multiple times until he is seen forcefully ripping her pants down at about 9:52 p.m., police said, according to the Times.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/passengers-who-did-not-intervene-in-sexual-assault-on-train-could-face-charges-report/ar-AAPHSKx
LisaL
(44,962 posts)PA doesn't have a good Samaritan law.
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)What's the charge then? It's in a public place, with surveillance cameras. Why is recording in a public place illegal?
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)What is wrong with you?
LisaL
(44,962 posts)WTF says it was o'key?
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)I'm sure there a myriad of laws that address this behavior. It isn't just about recording in a public place.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)NT
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)I have a question as to what they can actually be charged with. Jeez.
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)NT
circumstances in which a reasonable person would believe that a private area of the individual would not be visible to the public, regardless of whether that person is in a public or private place
treestar
(82,383 posts)Things are not illegal because you think they should be. A simple question of "what is the charge" does not approve it as you assume.
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)I trust they know what they are talking about.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)Way to twist that quote completely around.
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)Your comments in this thread are pretty gross though.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)All righty then.
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)Gross
LisaL
(44,962 posts)NT
marble falls
(56,359 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)I suggested those who stood by and watched someone do harm, like trump and others, be charged.
That how wrong I was that there is NO FUCKING way that could be done.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)"The Delaware County District Attorney's Office, however, told The Hill that "this is an ongoing investigation but at the present time there is no expectation that charges will be brought against passengers.""
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/passengers-who-did-not-intervene-in-sexual-assault-on-train-could-face-charges-report/ar-AAPHSKx
Skittles
(152,966 posts)WTF
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)SMH.
What on earth is wrong with people?
Skittles
(152,966 posts)call these fuckers out - they are way worse than any "Karens" - heck, Karen would call for help for sure
LisaL
(44,962 posts)We haven't heard anything about any witnesses coming forward.
Permanut
(5,439 posts)but let's not. They're cowards.
Bystander cowardice always brings to mind the Kitty Genovese case of 1964.
a kennedy
(29,467 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,904 posts)Pennsylvania doesn't have "duty to help" law. Only around 9 or 10 states do, and they all vary in specifics themselves.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)Notice the article doesn't mention what kind of charges are even possible. I presume because no charges are actually possible.
niyad
(112,435 posts)May they all receive everything they deserve.
berniesandersmittens
(11,323 posts)Generic Brad
(14,270 posts)She told me this morning she was so thankful she's currently working on her doctoral thesis in a different state this month. It really shook her up. When she was riding that line daily she told me she was getting sexually harassed by groups of young men with increasing regularity and was fearing it was close to getting out of hand last month.
elleng
(130,156 posts)a felony has been committed but fails to inform the authorities about it. The crime originated in English common law and required that citizens report crimes or face criminal prosecution.
Reporting Crimes: Witnessing, Ignoring, Falsely Reporting, and Lying
Although there's no general legal duty to report crime, many exceptions exist.
https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/criminal-law-basics/reporting-crimes-witnessing-ignoring-falsely-reporting-and-lying.html
LisaL
(44,962 posts)So it doesn't fit.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)Charging people for not putting their life in danger and risking civil suits from other parties should not hold up.
You didnt try to stop that violent attacker, now we will fine and maybe jail you for it. Also, if you tried to stop them and got hurt, that bill is on you. Also, if the criminal decides to sue you, that is on you. But you better fucking do it or we will charge you!
twin_ghost
(435 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)PA doesn't have a good Samaritan law.