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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 07:00 PM Oct 2021

"This is it!", "They've gone too far this time!", "This is a bridge too far!", "The Republicans

won't let this slide!" "The reasonable Republicans will support nation over party!"

How many times have we heard these impassioned bleats? How many times have some of us thought or said equivalent things?

Today, EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN SENATOR voted against even DISCUSSING the voting rights bill upon which the survival of our democracy depends.

There IS no "bridge too far"for them. There is no obscenity they will not "let slide". There are no "reasonable Republicans" in the Senate---possibly none anywhere.

Whither goest thou now, contrarians? Is "preserved the filibuster but destroyed democracy" what you want in the first paragraph of your obituaries?

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"This is it!", "They've gone too far this time!", "This is a bridge too far!", "The Republicans (Original Post) Atticus Oct 2021 OP
well not to worry since manchin supports their filibuster 100%...so far nt msongs Oct 2021 #1
I truly believe McConnell wants the Dems to get rid of the filbuster Bev54 Oct 2021 #2
He can blame the Dems for doing what he actually wants to be done. Kaleva Oct 2021 #3
We don't have to get rid of it dflprincess Oct 2021 #18
+1, uponit7771 Oct 2021 #20
First paragraph of obit should read Locksteppers lockstepped. czarjak Oct 2021 #4
Any republican with an ounce of integrity... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #5
There are none. Liz blew hers today. nt joetheman Oct 2021 #17
time to dissolve the republican taliban ! TFG has turned into a cancer of the U.S. ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #6
Republicans use their voting rights to take away voting rights of others. BoomaofBandM Oct 2021 #7
Mother Jones and Ari Berman's being right + a bus token will get us across town. ancianita Oct 2021 #8
I think we'll know more about voting after the Virginia election bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #9
How Politburo of them. JHB Oct 2021 #10
Their violent constituents have turned them into quivering rubber-stampers. Baked Potato Oct 2021 #11
The reasonable ones have all quit the party, or are about to rpannier Oct 2021 #12
Anti democracy Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #13
They know without their voter suppression they would hardly win another election ever again budkin Oct 2021 #14
Do you really think they're thinking that far ahead? Patton French Oct 2021 #15
Aaaaah, Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #16
The Republicans hate our guts hadEnuf Oct 2021 #19

Bev54

(10,037 posts)
2. I truly believe McConnell wants the Dems to get rid of the filbuster
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 07:37 PM
Oct 2021

Everything he has done since January has been to show that is the only thing they can do

dflprincess

(28,071 posts)
18. We don't have to get rid of it
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:53 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Just go back to the rules that they have to stay in the Chamber listening to whoever is speaking until that person falls over.

This deal where only 1 senator has to object and then they all go home & needing 60 votes to override that one objection have got to end.

SergeStorms

(19,148 posts)
5. Any republican with an ounce of integrity...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:08 PM
Oct 2021

has left the Party of Trump already. Those who remain loyal to the GQP are Trump loyalists to the bone.

After TFG has abandoned politics, for any of 1000 reasons, they'll all say, "what could I do? I'd never get re-elected if I took a stand against him".

That's the point, you fucking cowards. If you didn't have the courage to choose your country over the fascist tendencies of one demented egomaniac, how could anyone ever trust you again for any reason!

You made your stinking bed, now die in it.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
6. time to dissolve the republican taliban ! TFG has turned into a cancer of the U.S. !
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:23 PM
Oct 2021

no need to say more !

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
8. Mother Jones and Ari Berman's being right + a bus token will get us across town.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:29 PM
Oct 2021

Give Michael Steele a shot.

After watching Democrats work with Republicans for years, Michael Steele weighs in on his fellow analysts' frustrations.

Start at the 5:58 mark

"...The question becomes, all right, Dems, what do you want to do? This is raw power. That's what this is...
so the reality for Democrats is how do want to play the power. What are you waiting for? ... But when it comes down to power and getting your agenda through ... Mitch McConnell wouldn't take a second breath to think about jettisoning the filibuster if it meant the GOP agenda wouldn't get through otherwise ... I don't get it.

70% of Americans support the Freedom To Vote Act.
41 Senators representing just 21% of the nation can block it.

25:15 mark: Michael Steele: We know the Democrats won't act... Democrats won't call their bluff.

Are we gonna hand wring over this? Or do a Mitch McConnell?

bucolic_frolic

(43,027 posts)
9. I think we'll know more about voting after the Virginia election
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:29 PM
Oct 2021

Maybe Democrats just need to get Democrats in the HABIT of voting. Off year elections have been a big bugaboo

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
11. Their violent constituents have turned them into quivering rubber-stampers.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:35 PM
Oct 2021

And, I don’t think they GAF. Check still rolls in and they don’t have to run from car to house in fear of their own crazies.

rpannier

(24,327 posts)
12. The reasonable ones have all quit the party, or are about to
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:43 PM
Oct 2021

They have no real power, so their quitting gets overlooked.
See the two former state officials in Oklahoma who left that party.
Is it getting national news at all?

budkin

(6,698 posts)
14. They know without their voter suppression they would hardly win another election ever again
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:51 PM
Oct 2021

It's just the way it is. They have refused to evolve and are just trying to hang on.

Patton French

(742 posts)
15. Do you really think they're thinking that far ahead?
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:53 PM
Oct 2021

I’m not sure they know whither they goest beyond tomorrow.

hadEnuf

(2,172 posts)
19. The Republicans hate our guts
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:15 PM
Oct 2021

Absolutely, completely, hate our guts. They will do absolutely anything to screw Democrat's over.

Destroy democracy? Piece of cake.

Install a madman as dictator? Done.

Talk their own into getting a killer virus? No problem.

We've been having the conversation of why the Dems don't give it back to the GOP in spades for 20 fucking years.

What will it take and will we be able to give it back to them when we finally figure it out?

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