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Nevilledog

(51,064 posts)
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:38 PM Oct 2021

Yesterday a Native American student filmed this video in his Math class.



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Yesterday a Native American student filmed this video in his Math class. After several minutes of the teacher “war hooping & tomahawk chopping” the student began filming because he, “felt that violence was being committed against him and he had the right to record.”


5:56 PM · Oct 20, 2021





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Yesterday a Native American student filmed this video in his Math class. (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
That pos should be fired rockfordfile Oct 2021 #1
:) Seems a little excessive. What was her intent? Hortensis Oct 2021 #54
Was it calculus? milestogo Oct 2021 #2
Trigonometry caraher Oct 2021 #34
Must be something with Trig. My trig teacher was imprisoned for ice picking a teacher he was dating. TheBlackAdder Oct 2021 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author librechik Oct 2021 #57
Students need trig in what I'm teaching now... caraher Oct 2021 #62
Some Of His Children Are Having Trouble Over Algebra Marcuse Oct 2021 #63
this gal should not be teaching ANYTHING Skittles Oct 2021 #3
I agree, there is something seriously wrong with her n/t Bev54 Oct 2021 #22
wtf Celerity Oct 2021 #4
I never liked teachers who pulled stunts because they madaboutharry Oct 2021 #5
Isn't she just a miracle of affliction? Solly Mack Oct 2021 #6
This is disturbing Deuxcents Oct 2021 #7
What does this have to do with math? LeftInTX Oct 2021 #8
From the thread AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #11
Good gosh...I can see saying Soh Cah Toa once or twice..... LeftInTX Oct 2021 #16
Is THAT what she said? ShazzieB Oct 2021 #31
I admit I don't remember any of this AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #50
I know, right? Those students must have awful earworms.. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #52
A "mnemonic" device. A pneumonic device is medical equipment to help breathing. JHB Oct 2021 #44
A pneumonic-mnemonic device is medical equipment to help you remember to breathe. FSogol Oct 2021 #45
Thanks, I knew it didn't look right... AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #51
wtf Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #9
And her pants look ridiculous too. Captain Zero Oct 2021 #37
I will call tomorrow Mary in S. Carolina Oct 2021 #10
What stupidity. Get her out of the classroom and into sensitivity training. brush Oct 2021 #12
Next week she was planning a class on the Civil Rights Movement. Midnight Writer Oct 2021 #13
She looks like a massive nutcase vercetti2021 Oct 2021 #14
I am a graduate of John w North HS...but not recently. it was loads of fun at the time nt msongs Oct 2021 #15
Somehow, I don't see any teaching of math taking place. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2021 #17
Is she on drugs? LeftInTX Oct 2021 #18
Absolutely 3auld6phart Oct 2021 #19
Well, that was disgusting. UTUSN Oct 2021 #20
WTF is wrong with people? Initech Oct 2021 #21
too many people live in a bubble Skittles Oct 2021 #24
Outrage of the Day! Outrage! greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #23
"It's how we've always done it." dchill Oct 2021 #25
It wasn't a defense greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #26
I never learned this. I also tutored college algebra and trigonometry for three years LeftInTX Oct 2021 #27
Thanks for the explanatory videos. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #30
Mine either, same era obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #43
Same Time Frame Here ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #64
It is outrageous. This is exactly the problem, right here. yardwork Oct 2021 #38
A teacher in 2021 needs to know better. eShirl Oct 2021 #39
"This is racist as fuck, but..." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #40
really? dsc Oct 2021 #42
So THAT'S My Problem RobinA Oct 2021 #59
What in tarnation was that?! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #28
I know... LeftInTX Oct 2021 #29
Its not a defense because the dance and chant is offensive but... jcgoldie Oct 2021 #32
I remember it too madville Oct 2021 #47
What the hell did her disgusting stunt 💩 have to do with math ... REPULSIVE! Raine Oct 2021 #33
Maybe her little dance had to do with METH. nt raccoon Oct 2021 #55
LOL! 👍 nt Raine Oct 2021 #60
Isn't it obvious? Throck Oct 2021 #35
Good one! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #36
as a math teacher all I can say is yikes dsc Oct 2021 #41
Any details on the teacher's ancestry? madville Oct 2021 #46
would a modern day Stepin Fetchit get a pass? nt DeeNice Oct 2021 #48
Is this for real??? LeftInTX Oct 2021 #58
Hard to understand how she thought this was OK, racially-speaking, but mostly Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #53
What in the world?!? (n/t) Patton French Oct 2021 #56
The "teacher" has been placed on leave... PunkinPi Oct 2021 #61

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. :) Seems a little excessive. What was her intent?
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:28 PM
Oct 2021

If she turns out to be as clueless an idiot as she seems, perhaps a talking to by the principal, some sensitivity training, and of course sending her off to improve her teaching skills would do?

I was going to include making her watch this video of herself, but no doubt some would consider that excessively cruel. I disagree given that the kids had to watch it and would remind them to at least be glad that we're not burning her as a witch or tying her to a cart and whipping her out of town.

We do advance.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
34. Trigonometry
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:26 AM
Oct 2021

SOH-CAH-TOA is a mnemonic for the relationship between the lengths of sides of a right triangle and the sine, cosine, and tangent of one of the other interior angles:

Sine theta = Opposite / Hypoteneuse
Cosine theta = Adjacent / Hypoteneuse
Tangent theta = Opposite / Adjacent

Somehow I managed to learn the mnemonic without a performance like that...

TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
49. Must be something with Trig. My trig teacher was imprisoned for ice picking a teacher he was dating.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:24 AM
Oct 2021

.

The guy gave me the creeps and I was afraid a few times because he would have manic episodes in class. A few times I feigned sickness to stay home from school.

He would have teen HS girl students over to his apartment where they would drink and do drugs. None of the boys, just girls.


That teacher he dated, BTW, was killed as he stabbed her over 40 times.

.

Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #49)

caraher

(6,278 posts)
62. Students need trig in what I'm teaching now...
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 04:38 PM
Oct 2021

and I chose to include a "Trig Warning" at the start of the quarter

Your teacher... I'm gonna venture that the problem there was not trigonometry!

madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
5. I never liked teachers who pulled stunts because they
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:56 PM
Oct 2021

thought they would look cool to their students.

It is the 21st century, she should understand that what she did is no different than showing up in Blackface, or some other exaggerated ethnic or racist costume.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,004 posts)
11. From the thread
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:15 PM
Oct 2021

There’s some pneumonic device for remembering sines cosines and tangents, Soh Cah Toa.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
16. Good gosh...I can see saying Soh Cah Toa once or twice.....
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:46 PM
Oct 2021

No need for theatrics.
We never learned any tricks.


Sine was first because that is how you graph angles....LOL...The vertical is a measure of the angle, (Y-axis) so you measure the vertical then put that over the hypotenuse...The tangent is easy because it is the right angle thing (Y/X)...The cosine is the odd one out. (X-axis)

She's much better off drawing all of this out via graphs. This is plain old stupid.

So when in doubt between cosine and sine, just remember which one you learned first in geometry class. It's sine. Tangent doesn't need anything tricks to remember.

ShazzieB

(16,357 posts)
31. Is THAT what she said?
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:13 AM
Oct 2021

I couldn't understand a word of it!

Of course, I didn't make it past Algebra 1, so I don't know what most of it means anyway.

Four years of college plus a master's degree, but I'm a complete idiot when it comes to math. That's what happens when your parents move the family 3 times during high school, and you keep getting put in the wrong classes by people who don't know how to read a transcript and fall farther and farther behind till you give up.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,004 posts)
50. I admit I don't remember any of this
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:49 AM
Oct 2021

But I also wonder about dressing up in that stupid costume to teach high school juniors. Ignoring the racism, didn't kids outgrow that sort of lesson plan around age 10?

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
52. I know, right? Those students must have awful earworms..
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:17 PM
Oct 2021

I probably would have filmed also just to show the world, "My weird teacher..."

The marker board (thank god there are no more chalk boards), transparencies and textbooks would have gotten the point across effectively.
Write SOH next to sine...COH next to cosine and TOA next to tangent. Say it a only few times, just to remember it. Math is a visual subject, not an oral subject. You can say "SO-KAH-TO-AH" all day, but if you can't remember the spelling, it's a useless earworm.

I gotta admit, I got a "SO-KAH-TO-AH, SO-KAH-TO-AH, SO-KAH-TO-AH" earworm in my head today, but it's the spelling stupid, not a useless chant...

JHB

(37,158 posts)
44. A "mnemonic" device. A pneumonic device is medical equipment to help breathing.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:32 AM
Oct 2021

Ventilator, iron lung, etc.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
17. Somehow, I don't see any teaching of math taking place.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:47 PM
Oct 2021

Which is at least as much an issue as the behavior of the teacher.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
24. too many people live in a bubble
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:52 AM
Oct 2021

try to imagine the mentality it would take to think that this was a good decision

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
23. Outrage of the Day! Outrage!
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:50 AM
Oct 2021


Listen, this is racist as fuck, but teaching Soh-Cah-Toa as some "Indian princess" nonsense has been common in math education since the 1960s, if not earlier. She doing it because that's how she was taught to teach it and has prob been doing this shit for years.
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
26. It wasn't a defense
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:58 AM
Oct 2021

It's an indictment of something larger than this individual, though it's much easier to sputter and shake fist at this one person.

I also didn't say that's how they've always done it. I gave a specific historical timeframe for this racist stupidity.

Thanks, though. Everything else you said was correct.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
27. I never learned this. I also tutored college algebra and trigonometry for three years
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:03 AM
Oct 2021

The tutoring program was a grant for at risk students...Never heard of SOH CAH TOA until tonight.

I graduated from HS in 1974.

I did find a bunch of YouTube videos with Soh Coa Toa, but they didn't involve "Indian princesses"









Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
30. Thanks for the explanatory videos.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:08 AM
Oct 2021

It was never used as a teaching method in my trigonometry class, back in the 80's.

I would've remembered that!

ProfessorGAC

(64,989 posts)
64. Same Time Frame Here
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:54 PM
Oct 2021

I left high school after 3 years to go to college. So, I took trig in '72-'73.
I never heard of this mnemonic, either.
Even after reading about it, I don't get it.
Not sure how it helps to remember the relationships.
Guess it wasn't meant for me.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
38. It is outrageous. This is exactly the problem, right here.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 03:02 AM
Oct 2021

Behavior like this IS outrageous and requires outrage. Just because some people have been doing racist bigoted shit "forever" is not an excuse for the rest of us to go along with it. We need to speak up.

Outrageous behavior requires outrage. I'm speaking up.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
42. really?
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:18 AM
Oct 2021

I have taught math for decades and before that was a math student for a decade and I don't recall any Indian princesses coming up when using that neumonic device.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
59. So THAT'S My Problem
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:15 PM
Oct 2021

with math. This sine/cosine nonsense was Greek to me, but nobody taught me any Indian princess mnemonic. I could have been a math major!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
28. What in tarnation was that?!
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:05 AM
Oct 2021

I never saw any of my teachers, at any level, ever behave like that!

Is that woman on drugs, or mentally ill?!

jcgoldie

(11,627 posts)
32. Its not a defense because the dance and chant is offensive but...
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:22 AM
Oct 2021

I have taught that mnemonic device for years in HS trig. She thinks if she makes a spectacle it will stick in their minds I suppose. Get that woman some sensitivity training...

madville

(7,408 posts)
47. I remember it too
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:11 AM
Oct 2021

I bet the students in this teacher’s class won’t ever forget it now, that’s for sure!

Raine

(30,540 posts)
33. What the hell did her disgusting stunt 💩 have to do with math ... REPULSIVE!
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:25 AM
Oct 2021

Edit:

OK I see further up there's an explanation for her madness but what she did is insulting and she looks like an IDIOT!

dsc

(52,155 posts)
41. as a math teacher all I can say is yikes
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:16 AM
Oct 2021

I get that it is important for a geometry or trig class to learn this, but there are multiple ways to do this that aren't a disgrace.

For example Some Old Hippie, caught another hippie, trippin on acid. Sine opposite hypotenuse, cos adjacent hypotenuse, tan opposite adjacent.

madville

(7,408 posts)
46. Any details on the teacher's ancestry?
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:09 AM
Oct 2021

If she has some Native American ancestry does that give her a pass to identify as such?

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
58. Is this for real???
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:56 PM
Oct 2021

Sorry, I'm not NA, but I've been to pow-wows as a kid (in the 60s) and they can be watched on YouTube, these teachers' movements etc do not bear any resemblance to anything that I have ever seen.......Apparently the chants don't seem to have verbal meaning: While the drum is central to pow wows, "the drum only helps them keep beat. Dancers key on the melody of the song. Rhythms, tones, pitch all help create their 'moves'." (p. 85) Note that Bill Runs Above did not mention the lyrics of the songs, and while they are no doubt important, most lyrics of most songs employ vocables, syllable sounds such as "ya", "hey", and "loi" (p. 86).[15] This is particularly evident in intertribal songs, such as the AIM Song, which cannot be biased towards a certain language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pow_wow






When I went to the pow-wows, they were weekly events. I don't believe they were competitions. They were social gatherings, cultural events, tourist events and fundraisers. They still have them every week on the same reservation. Going to the pow-wow was always one of the highlights of our week up north. (As a matter of fact, it made going up north tolerable. Me: "When are we going to the pow-wow, because it's too cold to swim. I'm bored, when are we going to the pow-wow?" )

Video of the weekly pow-wow I would attend. They built a new facility and this was the last pow-wow at the old one.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
53. Hard to understand how she thought this was OK, racially-speaking, but mostly
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:21 PM
Oct 2021

she just seems very wound-up, or having some sort of manic-energy episode. Trying way too hard to get the kids' attention.

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