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LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:41 PM Oct 2021

Is 538 becoming more right-winged, or is it just ME?

I've noticed that more and more, they report about how BAD Joe Biden's performance is becoming per their polling. Yet, you very rarely see anything over there about Jan. 6th, or about the GQP/US Taliban Party or about anything that's right-winged. What's up with Nate Silver?

I mean, they give Rasmussen a B rating if what my friend said is correct.

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Is 538 becoming more right-winged, or is it just ME? (Original Post) LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 OP
I've thought the same thing over the last month padfun Oct 2021 #1
Biden is president. former9thward Oct 2021 #2
The President isn't watching the polls.So neither am I Walleye Oct 2021 #3
The President isn't watching the polls. So neither am I LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 #15
They are a poll aggregator- Rasmussen has a B rating, with 1.5% GOP bias Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #4
And right wing pollsters will have high ratings until the next cycle - because they were right Amishman Oct 2021 #18
they aggregate poll results NewJeffCT Oct 2021 #5
Nate Silver is a Libertarian, not a liberal AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #6
He's not interested in disseminating news SCantiGOP Oct 2021 #7
That would be because he's not a NEWS source. He's a data analyst brooklynite Oct 2021 #9
The 2016 election was a big one AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #10
Yet with 2016 he was closer than most of the rest of the experts Amishman Oct 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #11
I don't think so. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2021 #8
Agree with "We're just about at the fascistic point now," is very much true. LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 #17
They are not themaguffin Oct 2021 #12
Anyone else pronounce this headline like Victorian poetry: right-wing-ed? greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #13
Yup. Igel Oct 2021 #20
For most of this century, pollsters overall have been failing to Hortensis Oct 2021 #14
Thank you ...... LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 #16
I don't think you're becoming more right-winged. Iggo Oct 2021 #21

padfun

(1,786 posts)
1. I've thought the same thing over the last month
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:48 PM
Oct 2021

It seems that everything they write now bashes democrats. I thought about ending my daily newsfeed but it is a good idea to keep tabs on the enemy.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
2. Biden is president.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:48 PM
Oct 2021

So he gets polled. People are not polling about 1/6 so they can't publish polls that are not there.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
15. The President isn't watching the polls. So neither am I
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 05:31 PM
Oct 2021

I know Pres. Biden doesn't care about polling.

What I'm talking about is this very uneven coverage about what tRump/GQP was trying to do. We know the Faux Noose isn't going to report at all about these HUGE bombshells coming out daily now.

I live in California, and knew that tRump twin Elder would lose. TBH, not by the amount he lost by in a landslide, but I knew he had no chance vs Newsom. But in many articles leading up to election night coming from the NY Times you'd have thought that Elder had a chance. In fact, the NY Times said that Newsom 'survived' recall after the election. Survived? But then again, I left the NY Times around the the time they and Judith Miller were cheer-leading for Bush/Cheney's wars on humanity. Funny how now they went after Biden almost daily about pulling us OUT of Afghanistan. I've not been too happy with the Washington Post lately, but they had an outstanding, detailed article out today about all of the Bull Shit about how tRump was giddy in KNOWING that they'd be able to steal the 2020 election from Biden/Dems on January 6th 2021.

Most in the MSM and corporate media are on steroids about how 'badly' Biden's doing, yet they are not addressing any of the huge bombshells that are coming out about the Jan.6th civil insurrection that appears to be drawing MORE of the GQP/US Taliban Party. There wasn't any doubt in MY Mind that tRump/US GQP/Taliban Party were hell-bent on stealing the 2020 election from Biden/Dems. Jan. 6th rioters met with the GQP, tRump staff dozens of times, promising a blanket pardon by tRump for all who entered the Jan. 6th civil insurrection .... Hunter Walker went to town over in Rolling Stone, yet I'm only hearing about this from smaller media outlets. Maybe I have to give it time, because there is bombshells after bombshells coming out. Gomert, Gosar, Cawthorne, Mo Brooks, Boebert, The House Freedom Party. Cavewoman Marjorie Taylor Green is in deep trouble if what this Rolling Stone writer said is true, and speaking for me, I know most or what all was written about in Rolling Stone is true.

But there's no doubt whatsoever that tRump and his cohorts the GQP were trying to overthrow this government, and that we came pretty close to losing this country and what democracy we have left, and yet the mostly corporate and mainstream media's still pretty ho hum/indifferent. I cannot watch Political shows on the weekend, as they mostly have GQP'ers on LYING, and they're lies are not pushed back on, and we know Chuck Todd's too busy not pushing GQP'ers back and with his "Both sides do it" crapola. Look at what's coming out about Facebook. My God it's sickening about what Facebook's done and gotten away with it.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
4. They are a poll aggregator- Rasmussen has a B rating, with 1.5% GOP bias
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:51 PM
Oct 2021

They are reporting on poll results- do you want them to exclude polls that are more unfavourable to Biden, or report the big picture with accompanying data and ratings?

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
18. And right wing pollsters will have high ratings until the next cycle - because they were right
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 06:21 PM
Oct 2021

2020 had another systematic polling miss where Republican turnout was under modeled. This is an accuracy win and thus a higher rating for right leaning pollsters.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. they aggregate poll results
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:54 PM
Oct 2021

if there are a few negative polls, it will affect Biden's ratings.

Unless there were a rash of polls on the Jan 6 Treasonous Trump Sedition attempt, it wouldn't be on 538. So, blame the media for ignoring the sedition, as they often commission the polls in conjunction with polling outfit.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,000 posts)
6. Nate Silver is a Libertarian, not a liberal
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:57 PM
Oct 2021

And he has been fancying himself an expert on a bunch of things he's not an expert on (COVID being the big one). I wouldn't go to him for any sort of real news.

SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
7. He's not interested in disseminating news
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 05:08 PM
Oct 2021

He aggregates polls to provide objective analysis. If his results end up being off the mark he loses credibility, which means his site doesn’t generate traffic and revenue.
We have DU, we don’t need to ask his site to skew their results so we like them better.

brooklynite

(94,480 posts)
9. That would be because he's not a NEWS source. He's a data analyst
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 05:20 PM
Oct 2021

Name an inaccurate analysis of available political data he's published.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
19. Yet with 2016 he was closer than most of the rest of the experts
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 06:22 PM
Oct 2021

Data analytics is hard, political doubly so

Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
8. I don't think so.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 05:12 PM
Oct 2021

I think likely voters are. It’s the same old story. Republicans absolutely suck, people vote them out. Democrats can’t pass anything meaningful, people vote for the suck again. Virginia and New Jersey should be walkovers but there’s an even chance we lose both Governor races.

Every time this happens we get closer to full on fascism. We’re just about there now.

Igel

(35,293 posts)
20. Yup.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:09 PM
Oct 2021

They verbed a noun.

In a gratuituosed manner. Oopsed. I verbed an adjective.

Then an interjection.

And it was completely unnecessarilied.

Thereby verbing an adverb.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. For most of this century, pollsters overall have been failing to
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 05:29 PM
Oct 2021

both explain what Democratic voters want and predict big elections with any accuracy at all, years of predictions almost routinely proved to be completely wrong, after -- Too late! Voting's over.

I never understhood in the first decade what they were reporting that Democratic voters wanted (it certainly wasn't what I wanted, and I'm pretty normal!) -- seemingly we were overall both pretty modest in our desires yet worried about the economy and not really happy with our politicians. And especially after throwing out 63 Democratic congressmen for passing the ACA, ncumbents typically ran for reelection from the safe middle, keeping their heads down to avoid attracting attention.

A picture completely blasted by the enormously enthusiastic reaction across the left and into much of the moderate right to Elizabeth Warren's iconoclasm. (Oh, yeah -- and in the middle of our supposed disaffection we did also proudly elect and reelect our first black president overwhelmingly and finally enact that national health program after 70 years of obstruction.)

A majority of the big MSM political information sources, including biggies like the NYT, AP, MSNBNC and CNN, work to elect Republicans and sabotage Democrats. Finally occurred to me to wonder: How likely is it that they would ignore the statisticians who provide the data their agents use to explain their interpretations to the electorate?

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