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FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:55 PM Oct 2021

Democrats Supported Redistricting Reform in Virginia. Was It a Mistake?

When Virginia voters amended their state constitution to create a bipartisan redistricting commission, they thought they were ending the partisan squabbling that plagued the state’s redistricting process for centuries. Instead, they may have made it worse.

The Virginia commission—added to the state constitution by legislative approval followed by a referendum in 2020—was supposed to establish a fair, transparent process that discouraged politicking and incentivized compromise. It shifted power over the creation of new maps from the General Assembly (which Democrats now control) to a 16-member commission made up of eight legislative leaders and eight citizens. Both groups are evenly split between Democrats and Republicans. The commission must draw compact districts that do not favor any political party, and may adopt new maps only with supermajority support from both the legislators and citizens. If the commissioners can’t reach an agreement, the Virginia Supreme Court—where conservative justices currently hold a majority—draws the maps.

The commission has repeatedly deadlocked along partisan lines, failing to reach the beginnings of an agreement after hours of negotiations. The commissioners have already asked the Virginia Supreme Court to redraw state legislative districts, and they appear poised to give up on congressional maps as well. Democrats currently hold seven out of the state’s 11 congressional districts. The court’s map, however, may give several districts back to Republicans; indeed, it appears that the commission’s Republicans sought a deadlock in the hopes of securing a favorable map from the court. Democrats, who generally supported redistricting reform in the legislature, now fear the new process will diminish their odds of retaining control over the House of Representatives—and, by extension, killing the possibility of a federal ban on gerrymandering anytime soon.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/10/virginia-redistricting-commission-democrats-mistake.html

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Democrats Supported Redistricting Reform in Virginia. Was It a Mistake? (Original Post) FBaggins Oct 2021 OP
Unilateral disarmament is ALWAYS a mistake wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #1
Disenfranchising voters is great when we do it! AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #2
There are good rules and bad rules. ColinC Oct 2021 #3
So put pressure on other states. Don't whine that Democrats are playing fair AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #4
The other side has an unfair advantage. ColinC Oct 2021 #7
Tell that to Manchinema wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #9
So you do support disenfranchising voters to win AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #10
Do you support giving goops power? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #11
just put a republican in charge of federal elections and be done with it? msongs Oct 2021 #5
Li is right - The Repub blew it. That was their plan from the start. underpants Oct 2021 #6
Infuriating DET Oct 2021 #8

ColinC

(8,289 posts)
3. There are good rules and bad rules.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:06 PM
Oct 2021

Getting rid of gerrymandering is a good rule -if it applies to everybody. However disporportionately changing the rules for us only puts us at a disadvantage, and will result in a far worse outcome with far more voters disenfranchised.

ColinC

(8,289 posts)
7. The other side has an unfair advantage.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:29 PM
Oct 2021

Pointing that out isn't "whining," and "putting pressure" on other states when maps are being finalized makes absolutely no sense when the GOP has a strangehold on those states. The best you can do is either play by the same rules the GOP is playing by so that broad based policy isn't in jeopardy, or pass federal legislation making the rules the same. Right now, the former is far more practical.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
9. Tell that to Manchinema
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:26 AM
Oct 2021

The whole gerrymandering thing goes away with a federal law against it, but certain Democrats keep getting in the way of meaningful voting reforms.

So until bad actors learn how to fall in line, it's stupid to cede ground to the goops in the name of taking some moral high ground that doesn't exist in practice.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
6. Li is right - The Repub blew it. That was their plan from the start.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:17 PM
Oct 2021

Mostly over the GA Maps. They have as good as they are going to get with the current 7-4 Dem advantage in the House - DC.

DET

(1,305 posts)
8. Infuriating
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:33 PM
Oct 2021

Yes, it was a mistake. Once again, Democrats tried to take the high road and Republicans are screwing us over. When will we learn?

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